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What's considered the hardest part of SC? [#permalink] New post 06 Aug 2012, 21:35
Just wondering.

For me I find Rhetorical Construction the hardest followed by Logical Prediction.
What's worse is I can't seem to find any resources that focus in-depth on these two areas.
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Re: What's considered the hardest part of SC? [#permalink] New post 09 Aug 2012, 09:33
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Hi dchan, you probably won't find many materials on rhetorical construction because it is such a huge subject. There are so many legal ways to say the same thing in English that choosing among them based on rules only requires some pretty encylopedic knowledge - that's why books like the Chicago Manual of Style exist. Fortunately, if a construction is wrong on the GMAT, it's usually clearly and identifiably wrong. I've found the MGMAT Foundations of Verbal book helpful for understanding exactly how sentences are constructed. It's a big book, but you asked for it :)

Logical Predication is pretty easy to deal with, check out the MGMAT Sentence Correction strategy guide chapter on Comparisons. Here's a nice problem: http://www.manhattangmat.com/forums/idi ... t7736.html

With my students, understanding how verb modifiers work is probably the hardest topic - I find it important to explain them in terms of how the modifier adds to or changes the meaning of the sentence.
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Re: What's considered the hardest part of SC? [#permalink] New post 16 Aug 2012, 03:46
I have done another gmatprep exam. Got Q43/V42 700. However this was a repeat so many questions I have already seen which would inflate my score. However I have noticed that almost all my mistakes in Verbal belonged to SC. I have studied the MGMAT guide and done all the OG questions. I feel "lost" as it seems I am no better off than before at SC. I don't exactly know what I can do to finally crack SC. Every other area has shown signs of progress except SC which is getting sort of frustrating.
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Re: What's considered the hardest part of SC? [#permalink] New post 19 Aug 2012, 23:13
dchan wrote:
I have done another gmatprep exam. Got Q43/V42 700. However this was a repeat so many questions I have already seen which would inflate my score.
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Warning: Your real score is way below your GMATPrep score because of repeated Q's.
In your next Mock CAT, Spend the time allocated to that particular Q type but mark it wrong knowingly.

This is what suggested by Stacey at MGMAT forum (http://www.manhattangmat.com/forums/nee ... c45fb01144)

"If you do see a repeated question then, yes, you get it wrong on purpose unless you are 100% certain that you would have gotten it right even if it really had been totally new. If this happens too many times in one section, though, then this is still not representative of your current scoring level."

I feel it ok to see lower score in your Mocks rather than in real exam. Avoid solving GMATPrep Q's untill you are done with your Mocks.

dchan wrote:
However I have noticed that almost all my mistakes in Verbal belonged to SC. I have studied the MGMAT guide and done all the OG questions. I feel "lost" as it seems I am no better off than before at SC. I don't exactly know what I can do to finally crack SC. Every other area has shown signs of progress except SC which is getting sort of frustrating.

Use an error log and write down detail notes of why you got a particular SC Q wrong. Revisit Basics for those topics.
SC Q's for which you have taken more than 60-70 seconds or you have chosen wrong answer choice, mark them RED. Review the explanation for all these SC Q's on internet (By some known experts). Review and understand how the instructors are dealing with these Q's. What is different in their approach?
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Re: What's considered the hardest part of SC? [#permalink] New post 20 Aug 2012, 03:10
I redid the questions I got wrong. Unsurprisingly I still am weak in Rhetorical Construction and Logical Construction. However using my error log I have found out that more specifically, I am weak in handling "meaning" questions and understanding which sentences make sense logically.

I would like to ask, would you recommend not touching gmatprep until maybe the last few days before the actual exam? I used it in the past to get a realistic estimate on where I was (of course it gets less realistic after some repeated questions conme up) Are MGMAT tests the only suitable alternatives to gmatprep?
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Re: What's considered the hardest part of SC? [#permalink] New post 20 Aug 2012, 06:43
dchan wrote:
I redid the questions I got wrong. Unsurprisingly I still am weak in Rhetorical Construction and Logical Construction. However using my error log I have found out that more specifically, I am weak in handling "meaning" questions and understanding which sentences make sense logically.

Google for meaning clarity and you will find many blog and forum posts for Meaning Clarity.
Following is what i am trying to master:

While reading the Q try to understand the Intended Meaning (Message) of Author. (For MEANING CLARITY)


Pay close attention to non-UnderLined part and look for any Pronoun, Tense or S-V-A etc mismatch
Practice understanding the meaning of the sentence in One (First read) read
Pay close attention at start of UL, end of UL , after commas for any modifier or pronoun error
Notice any coordinating conjunctions (CC i.e. nor, and,yet,but,or) or other parallelism markers such as correlative conjuctions (not only… but also),
If one is present, make sure that before and after CC independent clauses are parallel
Notice any Logical Comparison error for an Apple to Oranges comparison issue

Identify all the Possible Grammar Problems with the Sentence.


If no apparent problem, use PoE (process of elimination). No other answer choice appears more promising than A, choose A and move on to next Q

If an apparent problem(s) is (are) there, Choice (A) is clearly wrong. Hence, do the 2-2 or 1-3 Divide with Vertical SCAN of answer choices.


The split doesn't always indicate an error, both part of the split can be grammatically correct
Split should be reasoned and make sense logically. Do not split based on words ONLY but split based on error type and logic
Do not eliminate answer choice A, If you are not able to identify a definite (certain) error in the original sentence.

Use PoE in final two chosen answer choices, keeping Meaning Clarity in mind. (For MEANING CLARITY)


Eliminate the definitely wrong answer choices and all other choice repeating the recognized error (as identified in step 3)

Read the full sentence with finally chosen answer choice before committing to any option. (For MEANING CLARITY)


This will avoid choosing the answer choice which correct the original error but insert the new error in some other part of the sentence.

These steps are the easier part of the story ;-) the tougher part is to execute them in 60-70 seconds.

dchan wrote:
I would like to ask, would you recommend not touching gmatprep until maybe the last few days before the actual exam? I used it in the past to get a realistic estimate on where I was (of course it gets less realistic after some repeated questions conme up) Are MGMAT tests the only suitable alternatives to gmatprep?

May be an expert can answer for best practices but i took the GMATPrep1 after doing some basic concept study.
In between i took MGMAT tests as these tests offer a good post test analysis of content.
I took GMATPrep 1 and 2 again in the last 14 days before the exam.
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