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whats wrong with me :S [#permalink] New post 26 Sep 2009, 19:29
hi...i need major help and advice here...i just started out with my prep have gone thru manhattan RC and powerscore CR. RC is fine ...but after having finished the bible i was very confident about the concepts and the approach that had to be taken but when i tried the questions from OG verbal review it was only a 50% success rate... :(
i m really disappointed and confused and dont know how to modify my approach....as i did the questions i did realize that i was having trouble recognising the kind of question and also the time constraint seemed a lil too much...but even without the timing it didnt do much good :(...also it was one particular kind of question that i kept getting wrong but was actually random....how can i etch the concepts in my head...i really really need a good score..and at this rate i think it be 10 yrs before i get to that :p

plz help!...wasnt sure where to post this messg so if you think its out of place kindly move it ...thnx!
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Re: whats wrong with me :S [#permalink] New post 26 Sep 2009, 20:09
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Rejoice that your RC is good - that's very hard to master.

CR can be tricky, esp if you are not thinking the same way the test creator does/did - the key to cracking it is going back and painstakingly reviewing every question you missed or got right by accident. Mark every question you miss and do it over in a week or so, make sure you get it right and notice that subtle difference. Let every error be a scar on your face - as glaring and as memorable.

There are patterns to mistakes/logic in CR - you need to know all of them.

Also, you need to expect the answer choices - are you doing that? Are you answering the question without reading the answer choices?

There is really a ton to learn and you may need to go through the PowerScore CR bible the second time, make notes, and do it very carefully.

That's my 2 cents.
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Re: whats wrong with me :S [#permalink] New post 26 Sep 2009, 21:02
hmmm....i think u r rite...i am not stopping to think thru the answer and jump straight to the answer choices...i know everyone has there own way of solving a qs but is there a generic step by step process....for an argument i pick out the premise and conculsion...read the question...at times have to go back to the stimulus and read it in light of the qs...then go straight to the answers...is that rite? i feel i m losing time like that coz i m reading the stimulus twice!! at times also i feel its easy to eliminate the choices but then at others i m just clueless abt all the options.......................aaah need major overhaul!!!
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Re: whats wrong with me :S [#permalink] New post 26 Sep 2009, 22:13
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So, are you following the strategy from the PowerScore CR book?
It did not tell you to try to answer the question before jumping to answer choices?


Here is what worked for me:
1. Read the question first - know what's asked - don't get into the details as to what it asks, just see if it is a weaken/strengthen/assumption, or smth else.
2. Read the Passage
3. Read the question again
4. Answer the question without reading a single answer choice (VERY IMPORTANT)
5. Skim through the answer choices - until you find a match to what you had in mind (usually a 5-10 sec process for me)
At this point I am usually able to answer 70% of questions
6. If you did not find one that matched your answer, read the answer choices again.
7. If you can't identify the best one. Between the best two, the wrong one will be outside the scope in most cases

That's it. I was able to solve CR's at the speed of 1 or 1.5 mins. The part that makes it fast is answering the question before looking at the answer choices.
I would re-read the passage in only 1 or 2 questions per test - you must be able to function with just one pass.
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Re: whats wrong with me :S [#permalink] New post 27 Sep 2009, 01:02
thanks bb!

yeah powerscore does talk abt prephasing but i guess am missing out that step thinking it will save time..but i guess it will also get questions wrong...
i am going over powerscore again...i wish i could practice questions according to the question type...is there a list that categorizes questions in gmat verbal review? i know its better to practice randomly spread out questions but just to make sure i can nail down each question type frst and then work with the randomness...do u think thats a wrong approach?
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thanks bb!

yeah powerscore does talk abt prephasing but i guess am missing out that step thinking it will save time..but i guess it will also get questions wrong...

:lol: amazing how it works.

So, did we figure out what's wrong with you?
Follow the strategy exactly step by step. Don't try to cut corners or outsmart it. It was written by very smart guys - let them do their job.
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Re: whats wrong with me :S [#permalink] New post 27 Sep 2009, 09:07
heheeh :oops: will keep that in mind thanks :) will keep u posted on the progress
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Re: whats wrong with me :S [#permalink] New post 08 Oct 2009, 16:45
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bb gave very good advice. As test takers, we need to be actively involved in these questions. Anticipating the answer helps reduce time spent on each question and improves your accuracy. Stay on the offense!

But if you still feel uncomfortable, look into Powerscore's Logical Reasoning guide. It's an LSAT book, but some high GMAT scorers swear by it.

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Re: whats wrong with me :S [#permalink] New post 08 Oct 2009, 19:37
bb wrote:
So, are you following the strategy from the PowerScore CR book?
It did not tell you to try to answer the question before jumping to answer choices?


Here is what worked for me:
1. Read the question first - know what's asked - don't get into the details as to what it asks, just see if it is a weaken/strengthen/assumption, or smth else.
2. Read the Passage
3. Read the question again
4. Answer the question without reading a single answer choice (VERY IMPORTANT)
5. Skim through the answer choices - until you find a match to what you had in mind (usually a 5-10 sec process for me)
At this point I am usually able to answer 70% of questions
6. If you did not find one that matched your answer, read the answer choices again.
7. If you can't identify the best one. Between the best two, the wrong one will be outside the scope in most cases

That's it. I was able to solve CR's at the speed of 1 or 1.5 mins. The part that makes it fast is answering the question before looking at the answer choices.
I would re-read the passage in only 1 or 2 questions per test - you must be able to function with just one pass.


I am always in search of such advices by BB. :) I have taken a print of this section, highlighted it and pasted on my room wall under CR section. Best strategy! Kudos!!

BB, it will be great if you can have a same summarized list for RC & SC. (Just a request & a suggestion, otherwise I will search)
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Re: whats wrong with me :S [#permalink] New post 08 Oct 2009, 22:22
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Really? Sure - happy to share. This CR strategy was something that Kaplan, MGMAT, and PowerScore recommend - one share or another.

For RC - take a look at this thread: gmat-club-s-reading-comprehension-strategy-guide-83101.html

I will post something about SC in a bit.
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