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When the new lawn mower quit working, Carl’s anger toward it was unleashed and he kicked the gate and broke it.
a) Carl’s anger toward it was unleashed and he kicked the gate and broke it
b) Carl became angry and the gate was kicked and broke
c) Carl’s anger toward it was unleashed and it was broken when he kicked the gate
d) Carl became angry and he kicked the gate and broke it
e) Carl kicked the gate and broke it when it angered him

Please need help with following questions

The OA is D
Does D need comma between 2 independent clauses to be correct (FANBOYS rule?)

d) Carl became angry, and he kicked the gate and broke it
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12. Mr. and Mrs. O’Leary couldn’t get away from their grandchildren, and this is why they didn’t make it to the opening night of the new theater performance.
a) Mr. and Mrs. O’Leary couldn’t get away from their grandchildren, and this is why they couldn’t
b) The grandchildren of Mr. and Mrs. O’Leary wouldn’t let them go, so this is the reason
c) The fact that Mr. and Mrs. O’Leary didn’t want to leave their grandchildren is the reason why they didn’t
d) This being the reason why Mr. and Mrs. O’Leary didn’t want to leave their grandchildren and couldn’t
e) The problem was that Mr. and Mrs. O’Leary couldn’t leave their grandchildren and that is why they hadn’t

OA is C
is in C a Vague pronoun?
C) The fact that Mr. and Mrs. O’Leary didn’t want to leave their grandchildren is the reason why they didn’t make it
It is not clear who (Mr or Mrs O'leary) or their grandchildren didn't make it
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For your first question about the comma, you will find the the GMAT rarely tests proper comma usage in sentence correction. You might find commas testing when using the word 'which' (requires a comma) or when you need to include a comma to create a 3+ item list. On the whole, however, you will only use commas as signals that the problem is testing you on modifiers or parallelism.

As for vague pronouns (pronoun ambiguity), the GMAT has a surprising tolerance for them. That means you need to learn to tolerate them as well. If the GMAT is testing pronoun ambiguity, there will be some splits with ambiguous pronouns and some with the repeated noun (very rare). Focus instead on logical pronoun usage (using pronoun replacement) and number agreement.

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09 Aug 2012, 18:54
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11 Aug 2012, 09:53
In the second question, the correct answer is C and 'they' properly refers to Mr & Mrs O'Leary. In the context of the original sentence meaning, option C is the right answer. The meaning of Original sentence says : Mr & Mrs O' Leary missed the performance coz they could'nt getaway from grandchildren. So it will be nonsensical to think that 'they' can refer to grandchildren or all (Mr & Mrs O'leary & grandchildren).
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11 Aug 2012, 13:13
Why is A wrong for the second question ?
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11 Aug 2012, 13:22
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Why is A wrong for the second question ?

In option A: Parallelism error between two verbs. couldn’t get away and.....and this is why they didn’t . Here 'and' is a marker to find this error.
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12 Aug 2012, 12:29
12. Mr. and Mrs. O’Leary couldn’t get away from their grandchildren, and this is why they didn’t make it to the opening night of the new theater performance.
a) Mr. and Mrs. O’Leary couldn’t get away from their grandchildren, and this is why they couldn’t
b) The grandchildren of Mr. and Mrs. O’Leary wouldn’t let them go, so this is the reason
c) The fact that Mr. and Mrs. O’Leary didn’t want to leave their grandchildren is the reason why they didn’t
d) This being the reason why Mr. and Mrs. O’Leary didn’t want to leave their grandchildren and couldn’t
e) The problem was that Mr. and Mrs. O’Leary couldn’t leave their grandchildren and that is why they hadn’t

what is wrong with A here..

seems perfectly fine.. the AND and the parellelims
the meaning

what is wrong with A?
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12 Aug 2012, 16:45
KyleWiddison wrote:
For your first question about the comma, you will find the the GMAT rarely tests proper comma usage in sentence correction. You might find commas testing when using the word 'which' (requires a comma) or when you need to include a comma to create a 3+ item list. On the whole, however, you will only use commas as signals that the problem is testing you on modifiers or parallelism.

As for vague pronouns (pronoun ambiguity), the GMAT has a surprising tolerance for them. That means you need to learn to tolerate them as well. If the GMAT is testing pronoun ambiguity, there will be some splits with ambiguous pronouns and some with the repeated noun (very rare). Focus instead on logical pronoun usage (using pronoun replacement) and number agreement.

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For question -2 , looks like A is correct answer.
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16 Aug 2012, 10:33
I would tend to agree with the discussion on the other post suggesting A as the correct answer. "The fact that" is almost always viewed as overly wordy and therefore not found in correct answers (our discussion about tolerating pronoun ambiguity is still valid).

The posted OA on this question is listed as C - please verify the OA on this post.

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16 Aug 2012, 10:51
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Please need help with following questions
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7. When the new lawn mower quit working, Carl’s anger toward it was unleashed and he kicked the gate and broke it.
a) Carl’s anger toward it was unleashed and he kicked the gate and broke it
b) Carl became angry and the gate was kicked and broke
c) Carl’s anger toward it was unleashed and it was broken when he kicked the gate
d) Carl became angry and he kicked the gate and broke it
e) Carl kicked the gate and broke it when it angered him

The OA is D
Does D need comma between 2 independent clauses to be correct (FANBOYS rule?)

You are correct if the usage of FANBOYS rule, the comma will separate the two independent clauses.
However, in this sentence, choice D is the most correct answer. Clearer, you should notify that the clause "When..." is the dependent clause, and this clause modifies other independent clause(s).

If When-clause just modifies "Carl became angry", then the clause "He kicked the gate and broke it" would be vague. So, the two remain clauses are parallel in logic and structure. Hence, non-existence of comma is appropriate.

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14 Mar 2013, 06:27
Hi,
In Q1
"7. When the new lawn mower quit working, Carl’s anger toward it was unleashed and he kicked the gate and broke it."

What is wrong with the OA? More specifically, why is " Carl became angry" preferred over "Carl’s anger toward it was unleashed"? It appears to me that there is a slight change in meaning:
he had previous angers towards the gate, and all of it was unleashed when the lawn mover quit working
vs
he became angry the moment the quit working

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14 Mar 2013, 14:37
I agree with the suggestion that answer A is better for the second question. I believe answe C changes the original meaning. The original meaning is that the grandparents couldnt get away from their children. There can be many reasons for this. Answe C implies that they didnt want to leave their children. To me this is not the same.c

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