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*whew* + woohoo = 740 Q(49 - 90%) V(41 - 93%) overall 98% [#permalink] New post 26 Aug 2006, 14:25
Hi folks,

Took (or Gave?) my GMAT (first attempt) today and was immensely relieved after I saw my final score. In particular - I feel good about the balanced Q and V, one less thing to worry about.

I have many great people here in this forum to thank, and my detailed experience to share with you - including some tips I found very useful.

I'm feeling great- I'll post my debrief in a few hours. What can I say, no more stinkin' GMAT for me!

More soon,
(ps - edited 43V to 41 - typo)
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 [#permalink] New post 26 Aug 2006, 14:29
one word... CONGRATULATIONS!!!

amazing balance in the score!!! please tell us how you did it :wink:

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 [#permalink] New post 26 Aug 2006, 14:32
Spell bound....


Awesome score !!

Congratulations!!!!!!!!!!!
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 [#permalink] New post 26 Aug 2006, 15:11
Awesome. I'd love to hear your preperation details. Congratulations!
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 [#permalink] New post 26 Aug 2006, 16:12
Awesome score!!!

CONGRATULATIONS!!

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Give us some pointers to get there too.. :-)
How long did you prep and what were your average scores? I am preping right now and see gradual improvement of scores... want to see your trend and maybe get an idea how much more I need to work...

Good luck with the apps!!
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Cool man! Congraats.
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Hello everyone,

Am back now - in a more relaxed mood, to write about my experience. I'll take it step-by-step so I can cover different aspects.

Before I start - my million thanks to the people on this great forum - where do I even begin? In no specific order - Rhyme, GMATT73, Pelihu, ps_dahiya, willget800, u2lovergirl, and others from whom I have learnt plenty over these months. Your posts and encouragement to others are wonderful and I hope you guys hang around here. And I still hope u2lovergirl takes off that pic of bearded bono and puts something more eye pleasing :D

The beginning

I decided late May that I might want to consider going into business school, and I had to decide on taking GMAT. On June 1st, I decided that I should - and even checked my calendar and mentally decided that I would take the exam on August 26th. Since I had zero knowledge of gmat format and all other statistics related to preparation - I went to http://www.mba.com, did some reading, downloaded the software and took my first test (and I had no idea that it was actually adaptive). GMATPrep1 - got a 620, and I just quit the results screen without even bothering to see my Q and V. Stupid, I know.

In a day or two after that, I knew 620 wasn't good enough, and that 700+ was great. I realized that for someone like me (with 10+ years experience, 33 yrs old) would need a solid GMAT score to offset other disadvantages. In any case, by first week of June, I was absolutely sure I would do GMAT.

The preparation

Without bothering to research much, I just went ahead and purchased OG 11 and Kaplan 2006-7 around 1st week of June, and once I received them, I began to work out the problems. Needless to say, I wasn't doing well. My Math was creaky, and while I thought I was good in verbal (because while I'm non-native English speaker, I've done all my education in English and am quite fluent in it), I realized very soon that I at it sucked big time. This realization, though, came rather late (as you will read later on).

My preparation was spotty - my job requires me to manage multiple projects and also be technically involved in some, so I would spend about 30-45 minutes a day at an average of about 4-5 days per week - and this continued through July. However, I did manage to spend time over weekends to at least take a full length test and analyse my weakness. In August, I did not prepare for a full week as I was out on business travel, but I kicked up a notch in the last 2 weeks with some intense preparation. My preparation style is a little unusual from most others, so be cautious what you take from it (I'll cover it in a little while)

Preparatory books
I used the usual culprits, OG, Kaplan, Princeton and MGMAT. Here is my preference list:

a) OG - you should do this to get a good feel of all sections. In my case, I actually did not finish DS or RC by the time I got to the test.
b)MGMAT SC - great book for SC, a must for non-native speakers.
c)Veritas math - for permutations and statistics. Great book but return-on-investment was 0 because I got no frikkin question on perm/comb
d)Princeton review - from my own experience - I actually liked this book! I really liked their sections on SC and RC, and their on-line tests weren't too bad either.

Preparatory software

a) GMATPrep is your bible, bhagavad-gita, Quran, Zend-avesta, star trek guide, latest edition of playboy - whatever is holy to you. Nothing even comes close to how close GMATPrep is to the real test - I'll cover this in more detail below because it's really important.
b)Princeton review tests - Good practice, they don't intimidate you by giving you idiotic scores (like Kaplan). The flip side is that their Quant correction is very unlike real GMAT - I got 47 by getting just 3 wrong, where in the real GMAT - only 3 wrong might give you 50 or 51.
c)MGMAT tests - again, very good practice especially for Quant.
d)Kaplan - dog crap. What more do you want to say?

The ETS paper tests should be used purely for questions practice, they are in no way representative of real GMAT. Don't try to analyze how you would do in GMAT by how you did in ETS paper tests. The Powerprep software is slightly better.

My preparation scores

I'll put up my full XLS sheet in a link soon - so I'll only summarize my performance here.

June/July:
Kaplan CAT1 - 580 !@#$%#$
Kaplan CAT2 - 610 !@#$$!@#
Kaplan CAT3 - did not finish, got so infuriated and lost interest
Kaplan CAT4 - did not do.

In words of my good friend Eric Cartman - here's what I say to their material, "Scr--w you guys, I'm going home!"

July
MGMAT CAT1 - 620
MGMAT CAT2 and 3 - 680, 690. MGMAT is quite tough, so it's a good sign if you're hitting close to 700 there.
PR CAT1,CAT2,CAT3 - 680,690,690 (or maybe I got 710 in one..not sure)

August
GMATPrep - 700,710 ; 740,750 ; 770, 760; 770; Now you'll wonder if I was nuts doing it so many times, and I'll tell you you'll thank me why. And I did all these in the last 7 days.

As you can see, my scores improved over time - and I hovered close to 700 in MGMAT/PR and touched 700+ on GMATPrep.

My study strategy/style

*warning: My style was a little unusual compared to most. You can choose to use aspects of it, but you need to know what works best for you. My reasoning may not be the best one for you!*

1. I actually did not even finish OG completely, I focused more on basics and then analyzed answers from my tests. My reason? OG has questions that sometimes repeat in the prep software - it skews performance in the tests. I wanted my tests to be as accurate as possible. I read initial parts of OG, did most of SC, some CR, Q and DS (about 50-70%) by Aug last week and then went through the problems after I finished a couple of rounds of GMATPrep only learn techniques for harder areas.

2. I did not use any error log as such. Once I did a test, I looked at my statistical performance - where did I get hit the most? how many questions? This worked nicely for me. Instead of obsessing over every single type - I focused on a category. Here is how it actually worked for me.

Initially, I was hurting in Quant, specifically number theory. My geometry and algebra were strong and needed only brush up. So I focused on number theory and fair enough - scored improved. I targeted statistics next, and finally word translations. I knew I had no time or patience to master perm/comb - so I brushed the basics and left it at that. Attack what you can master, and understand what you are willing to trade-off on. Once I hit 48-49 on Quant, I went after verbal. My CR improved quickly after I read through some tips on PR, and then went after SC. Lots of practice (about 200 from 1000SC, all of OG, and great summaries in PR) and I got better. Not great, but better.

3. Here's the most important thing: I did GMATPrep about 8 times! Of which 6 were in the last 5 days. This is unusual but it really, really helped. Do not think that once you do the 2 tests, you should stop because questions might repeat. The great thing about GMATPrep is that Quant will get you fresh questions for most part while verbal will repeat in increasing amounts (RC will repeat a lot, but you can get newer SC questions). GMATPrep is really close to the real thing, and when I sat in the real test - it just felt so comfortable and familiar! I knew the type of traps they were laying out for me, I knew what to look out for, and what approach to take to many questions. Even if you take everything else I say to be a rant of a senile mind, please don't ignore this! I will post a separate note on some useful tips on GMAT quant.

Leading to the test/The test day
I slept late the 2nd day before the test, and woke up early the day before the test. This ensured I would sleep fitfully the day before the test. Thankfully, tests have never fazed me all my life (regardless of my level pf preparation ;) ) - they don't make me nervous so I was peaceful the day before. I did 2 GMATPrep tests, practised 50 SC - and in the evening visited my test center (which is was really useful because the directions were confusing and it took me time to find it). I slept fitfully because I was exhausted.

Test day - my test was at 12:15 but I thought I'll take a chance by going in early. Was there at 11 AM and voila, they said I could take it right then if I wanted to. Nice center, friendly staff. After ID verification (non-US citizens take your passport to the center) I was taken in to the center. The first thing I did was to test the writing pen, it wasn't writing! I got a replacement immediately, and here's another funny thing - I actually liked the writing pad and pen! Center was reasonably quiet - I did not use the ear plugs, they annoy me. Ambient noise was not an issue.

AWA
I had never practised with AWA, not once. Hey, I'm a manager, I write reams of pompous stuff all the time, 2 essays weren't going to fatigue me ;) I think I did a decent job at AWA. Nothing much to say here.

took a break of 5-6 minutes, and took a deep breath to face quant.

Question 1: Wham! darned question - type of which I had never done before. Spent 3 minutes....no solution...clicked on a guess, but hesitated to confirm answer. My mind was racing, can't get the first question wrong! Took an alternate approach by using a sample value - great! it worked! Next question - number properties, got it right. Then geometry, not simple - I think I nailed it. I knew the questions were not simple - but I couldn't really make out if it was getting harder and harder. My only guess was that since questions were longer and needed me to think, they were probably in the harder sections. Lot of number properties - so please prepare for them. No question on Probability, and I don't think even a single question made me think "what the hell..?" My repeat GMATPreps really helped in feeling familiar. By the time I ended the quant with 30s to spare (I guessed the last-second question), I knew I had done decently.

break. 4 minutes, some water. No snacks. Back for verbal.

Q1: Pretty involved CR - had to think quite a lot before answering. Second question was a big underlined SC - big but not hard, choices were easy to decide on. I could never make out if verbal was getting harder or easier - I felt good all the way. Couple of SC's got me, but that was OK.

Test over with 20 seconds to spare, and the survey started. I felt peaceful, so I went through the questions without any irritation. Finally, "do you want to see your score" (do you want to see carmen electra in a bikini?) - I clicked yes and it took about 15-20 seconds for the result. Man it felt long. Finally, 740 flashed! I grinned all the way to the car and home :)

Now I can get to the next step with confidence. To summarize some key points

a) Study basics first, get your fundamentals clear in quant. Number theory is important.
b) SC will get you the best improvement in score in verbal
c) Very important to be calm and composed during the test. Get good sleep beforehand.
d) During the test, don't let a hard question faze you. If you cannot understand the question, take a call whether you can solve it or not. If you can't, guess and move on. Try to get the earlier questions correct. I'll write a separate post on some tips.
e)Practise using GMATPrep, a lot. The real test is very close to it.
f)Don't try to guess if a question is hard, experimental etc. etc while testing. Just focus on solving it and getting it right withing 2 minutes.
g)Spend time on this forum. If you got a a question wrong, search for threads here and understand the solution. This forum and its people are fantastic, for guidance, help and inspiration. I spent some amount of time every single day on this forum.


What I wish I had done better

Given that I got 740 - in hindsight, it might have helped if I practised SC a lot more, that might have got me 760.. and some more practise in mixture questions might have got me a 50 in Q. But once you cross the 730-740 mark, every 10 points requires a lot of preparation - so I think I should shut up and be happy at what I got. Sure I would have liked 770, but then I would have also liked to have Warren Buffet donate me a 100 million dollars, "ain't gonna happen."


I've ranted a lot - but I'll put up a more permanent article after gathering some thoughts.

thanks everyone![/b]
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 [#permalink] New post 26 Aug 2006, 20:50
Necromanger,

You are the man... I am taking the test this Thursday and your testamony just gave me a little more confidence... Enjoy your victory dude!
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 [#permalink] New post 26 Aug 2006, 21:04
Outstanding Necromonger!! You kicked PVue's ASS!! Party time bro :band
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 [#permalink] New post 27 Aug 2006, 00:48
"Congratulations" is a smaller word to greet you man!!!!
Your post is ultimate.. it made my day!! to point out a few things.. GMAT Prep is Bible, Bhagwat gita.., Kuran... or the most exclusive Latest Edition of Playboy magzine... :cool

And that Warren Buffet Stuff... very funny man...

:lol:

Fantastic

And as for my plans for GMAT Prep... I have decided to do the Quant section atleast 30 times coupled with reinstallation every 4-5th day..
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 [#permalink] New post 27 Aug 2006, 00:55
and not to mention Rhyme's 7xx Award keeps gettin better and better..
I wish i earn it too some day... :-D
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 [#permalink] New post 27 Aug 2006, 07:27
awesome....
Congrats...... Good luck for your apps. :musband :band :beer
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 [#permalink] New post 27 Aug 2006, 08:20
congrats!!

awesome score..
how wwa syour impression of mgmat with gmatprep on verbal alone?
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 [#permalink] New post 27 Aug 2006, 09:25
Awesome score man........

Good luck for the future.
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 [#permalink] New post 27 Aug 2006, 10:08
willget800 wrote:
congrats!!

awesome score..
how wwa syour impression of mgmat with gmatprep on verbal alone?


I think GMATPrep is certainly more indicative when compared to MGMAT. But it's quite hard to make out a clear difference in Verbal.

The RC in the real GMAT was not that hard actually, one was a large - fairly dense science passage. But I'm pretty comfy with science passages so it did not throw me off. Other than that, GMAT verbal was certainly a lot easier than Kaplan.
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 [#permalink] New post 27 Aug 2006, 19:19
Congratulations!!! The score is GREAT!
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 [#permalink] New post 27 Aug 2006, 19:41
Awesome Score And many congrats. :-D
Consideringt he fact that you took it first time and nailed both the sections 8-) , it's terrific.
Best of luck with your Apps. I am sure you will do good.
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 [#permalink] New post 27 Aug 2006, 20:45
Great score dude.
All the best.
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 [#permalink] New post 28 Aug 2006, 00:30
:woohoo :m16

Congratulations necromonger ! This is a fantastic performance ... I hope you still hang around in the forums.

All the best for your apps !
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