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With total sales of less than three hundred thousand dollars [#permalink] New post 31 Mar 2009, 02:56
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With total sales of less than three hundred thousand dollars and fewer new subscribers than last year, the New England Theater Company is in danger of losing its building.

(A) of less than three hundred thousand dollars and fewer
(B) lower than three hundred thousand dollars and less
(C) lesser than three hundred thousand dollars and fewer
(D) fewer than three hundred thousand dollars and less
(E) of fewer than three hundred thousand dollars and of fewer
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Re: Sales of + Fewer? [#permalink] New post 31 Mar 2009, 04:39
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Should be A

Both 'Less than' and 'fewer' is rightly used.

Less than is used to show decrease in value and lower than in physical level. For example water level is lower than
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Re: Sales of + Fewer? [#permalink] New post 31 Mar 2009, 18:55
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Economist wrote:
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With total sales of less than three hundred thousand dollars and fewer new subscribers than last year, the New England Theater Company is in danger of losing its building.

(A) of less than three hundred thousand dollars and fewer
(B) lower than three hundred thousand dollars and less
(C) lesser than three hundred thousand dollars and fewer
(D) fewer than three hundred thousand dollars and less
(E) of fewer than three hundred thousand dollars and of fewer



IMO A).
Have you gone through Manhattan SC (Odds and Ends) book? - It is clearly mentioned in this book about this trap.

Be careful with unit nouns.......such as dollars or gallons....By their nature they are countable (example: one dollar, two dollar etc) and so they work with most of the countable modifiers. However, unit nous represents the uncountable quantities: money, volume (one money, two money etc).

As a result we use "less" with unit nouns when we really want to indicate something about underlying quantity.

We have less than twenty dollars.........ex.

If we write we have fewer than twenty dollars that means (20 piece of papers)....so whenever underlying quantity is uncountable then use less than (especially in case of money and volume).
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Re: Sales of + Fewer? [#permalink] New post 27 Apr 2011, 01:09
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By looking at AND i thought this issue is also testing parallelism. Are less and fewer parallel?


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With total sales of less than three hundred thousand dollars and fewer new subscribers than last year, the New England Theater Company is in danger of losing its building.

[highlight](A) of less than three hundred thousand dollars and fewer[/highlight]
(B) lower than three hundred thousand dollars and less
(C) lesser than three hundred thousand dollars and fewer
(D) fewer than three hundred thousand dollars and less
(E) of fewer than three hundred thousand dollars and of fewer


It's not a parallelism it's testing for here but a less than vs. fewer choice.... some posts here have suggested C - but if you insert option C into the sentence you can see this is wrong... "With total sales lesser than three hundred thousand dollars and fewer"... (ouch!).

'Lesser' is rarely used but occasionally seen in a comparitive sense as in 'the least of' (e.g. "it is the lesser of two evils"), or occasionally appearing in names of animals "the lesser spotted woodpecker".)

A common GMAT trap is to use money in SC - you need to be careful when considering whether the object proposed is countable or not. 'Money' is'nt usually used as a countable noun - it's not correct to say "one money", "two moneys (or monies)" etc - similarly we would use "less money," not "fewer money."

That said, we would use 'fewer' when counting (one dollar, two dollars) so a correct comparative term is "fewer dollars". eg: "I have less money than you", "I have fewer dollars than you"

Countable nouns can also be used to represent quantitave measurements (as we find in this question) – consider sums of money, periods of time and distance. Here, we'd see that whilst minutes / dollars / miles etc are countable, the correct form would be "less than ten minutes left", "less than a hundred dollars" and "less than three miles" Remember, here we are referring to quantities, not countable units.

Answer 'A' correctly assigns the property "of less than three hundred thousand dollars" to "total sales", and recognises new subscribers as countable, using "fewer". :)
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Re: Sales of + Fewer? [#permalink] New post 31 Mar 2009, 03:21
IMO E
countable-->few

both are countable nouns

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Re: Sales of + Fewer? [#permalink] New post 31 Mar 2009, 04:03
A?

sales refers to an amount of money (e.g. i have less money than you do)
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Re: Sales of + Fewer? [#permalink] New post 31 Mar 2009, 05:17
A is OA.
But why not C? C looks okay to me.
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Re: Sales of + Fewer? [#permalink] New post 31 Mar 2009, 05:53
Not sure whether lesser than is apt term here. Lesser is used an adj. For ex: Lesser quantity.

Again, there may be better explanation for your question.

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A is OA.
But why not C? C looks okay to me.
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Re: Sales of + Fewer? [#permalink] New post 01 Apr 2009, 01:53
Thanks for the info . My question was more regarding 'less' vs 'lesser'
But I think lesser should be followed by a noun...makes sense.

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Economist wrote:
SCtest3-7
With total sales of less than three hundred thousand dollars and fewer new subscribers than last year, the New England Theater Company is in danger of losing its building.

(A) of less than three hundred thousand dollars and fewer
(B) lower than three hundred thousand dollars and less
(C) lesser than three hundred thousand dollars and fewer
(D) fewer than three hundred thousand dollars and less
(E) of fewer than three hundred thousand dollars and of fewer



IMO A).
Have you gone through Manhattan SC (Odds and Ends) book? - It is clearly mentioned in this book about this trap.

Be careful with unit nouns.......such as dollars or gallons....By their nature they are countable (example: one dollar, two dollar etc) and so they work with most of the countable modifiers. However, unit nous represents the uncountable quantities: money, volume (one money, two money etc).

As a result we use "less" with unit nouns when we really want to indicate something about underlying quantity.

We have less than twenty dollars.........ex.

If we write we have fewer than twenty dollars that means (20 piece of papers)....so whenever underlying quantity is uncountable then use less than (especially in case of money and volume).
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Re: Sales of + Fewer? [#permalink] New post 01 Apr 2009, 14:26
Just want to clarify you cannot use "lesser" I think even you have noun after that...it is not idiomatic. For comparision between two items we still use "less" (less than).....lesser than is not valid as per my understanding.

Please discuss if you have read from good sources.
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Re: Sales of + Fewer? [#permalink] New post 22 Apr 2010, 15:14
A is correct
sale is uncountable so less than is okay and subscriber is fewer as they are countable
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Re: Sales of + Fewer? [#permalink] New post 22 Apr 2010, 17:36
A straight forward one. OA is A: less for non- count (water, air etc)
fewer for counts: people; knives, plates etc
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Re: Sales of + Fewer? [#permalink] New post 23 Apr 2010, 00:11
Economist wrote:
With total sales of less than three hundred thousand dollars and fewer new subscribers than last year, the New England Theater Company is in danger of losing its building.

(A) of less than three hundred thousand dollars and fewer
(B) lower than three hundred thousand dollars and less
(C) lesser than three hundred thousand dollars and fewer
(D) fewer than three hundred thousand dollars and less
(E) of fewer than three hundred thousand dollars and of fewer

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IMO A

this is a "less than" and fewer problem
Ofcourse we cannot use lesser as this is not idiomatic

As per GMAT rules- it is mentioned in OG

"Less than" refers to continuous quantity => sales/revenues less than three hundred dollars - it is a continuous thing
"Fewer" refers to a specific number which is countable => fewer new subscribers => they are countable

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Re: Sales of + Fewer? [#permalink] New post 23 Apr 2010, 05:12
In addition to it.. we are comparing total sales with a number which is 300 thousand dollars.. its not right to say 2 is lesser than 3.. similarly total sales is less than 300, not lesser than 300 or even fewer than 300 (countable quantity)
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Re: Sales of + Fewer? [#permalink] New post 23 Apr 2010, 06:57
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You gave a valid reason why A is having correct usage.
Even I fall for trap and selected C.


nilesh376 wrote:
In addition to it.. we are comparing total sales with a number which is 300 thousand dollars.. its not right to say 2 is lesser than 3.. similarly total sales is less than 300, not lesser than 300 or even fewer than 300 (countable quantity)

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Re: Sales of + Fewer? [#permalink] New post 06 Sep 2010, 07:53
good question. I fell for C too.
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Re: Sales of + Fewer? [#permalink] New post 26 Apr 2011, 07:11
+1 A

Money ($ XX dollars) is uncountable. Why? I don't know. It's not my language! Just memorize it and be happy 8-)
Suscribers are countable.
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Re: Sales of + Fewer? [#permalink] New post 26 Apr 2011, 12:17
The strategy to tackle this problem is using odds and ends concept of Manhattan GMAT ... Correct answer A
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Re: Sales of + Fewer? [#permalink] New post 26 Apr 2011, 12:54
A is the answer, pretty straight forward
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Re: Sales of + Fewer? [#permalink] New post 26 Apr 2011, 14:55
A straightforward "A" here :)
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