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|x|=|2y|, what is the value of x-2y?

(1) x+2y = 6
(2) xy>0

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i wish to have clarification on st. 1.
x+2y = 6
if x = 2, y = 2 or
if x= -2 , y = 4 then also it is '6'

do we need to keep the constraint +x = +2y while evaluating st.1 ?
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Re: |x|=|2y|, what is the value of x-2y? [#permalink] New post 27 May 2012, 08:35
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|x|=|2y|, what is the value of x-2y?

First of all |x|=|2y| means that either x=2y or x=-2y.

(1) x+2y = 6. Now, the second case is not possible since if x=-2y then from this statement we would have that -2y+2y=6 --> 0=6, which obviously is not true. So, we have that x=2y, in this case x-2y=2y-2y=0. Sufficient.

(2) xy>0 --> x and y are either both positive or both negative, in any case |x|=|2y| becomes x=2y (if x and y are both negative then |x|=|2y| becomes -x=-2y which is the same as x=2y). Now, if x=2y then x-2y=2y-2y=0. Sufficient.

Answer: D.

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Re: |x|=|2y|, what is the value of x-2y? [#permalink] New post 28 May 2012, 08:57
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|x|=|2y|, what is the value of x-2y?

First of all |x|=|2y| means that either x=2y or x=-2y.

(1) x+2y = 6. Now, the second case is not possible since if x=-2y then from this statement we would have that -2y+2y=6 --> 0=6, which obviously is not true. So, we have that x=2y, in this case x-2y=2y-2y=0. Sufficient.

(2) xy>0 --> x and y are either both positive or both negative, in any case |x|=|2y| becomes x=2y (if x and y are both negative then |x|=|2y| becomes -x=-2y which is the same as x=2y). Now, if x=2y then x-2y=2y-2y=0. Sufficient.

Answer: D.

Hope it's clear.


Dear Bunuel,

whenever absolute value is analysed, we take two scenarios of <0 and >0.
So, why the same is not considered for |x| ?
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Re: |x|=|2y|, what is the value of x-2y? [#permalink] New post 28 May 2012, 09:09
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Bunuel wrote:
|x|=|2y|, what is the value of x-2y?

First of all |x|=|2y| means that either x=2y or x=-2y.

(1) x+2y = 6. Now, the second case is not possible since if x=-2y then from this statement we would have that -2y+2y=6 --> 0=6, which obviously is not true. So, we have that x=2y, in this case x-2y=2y-2y=0. Sufficient.

(2) xy>0 --> x and y are either both positive or both negative, in any case |x|=|2y| becomes x=2y (if x and y are both negative then |x|=|2y| becomes -x=-2y which is the same as x=2y). Now, if x=2y then x-2y=2y-2y=0. Sufficient.

Answer: D.

Hope it's clear.


Dear Bunuel,

whenever absolute value is analysed, we take two scenarios of <0 and >0.
So, why the same is not considered for |x| ?


If x\leq{0} and y\leq{0} then |x|=|2y| expands as -x=-2y --> x=2y;
If x\leq{0} and y>{0} then |x|=|2y| expands as -x=2y --> x=-2y;
If x>{0} and y\leq{0} then |x|=|2y| expands as x=-2y;
If x>{0} and y>{0} then |x|=|2y| expands as x=2y.

So as you can see |x|=|2y| can expand only in two ways x=2y or x=-2y (as shown above ++ and -- are the same, and +- and -+ are the same).
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Re: |x|=|2y|, what is the value of x-2y? [#permalink] New post 31 May 2012, 20:45
Tricky question.... I gave 2 much time to evaluate stmt 1 and went with A.
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Re: |x|=|2y|, what is the value of x-2y? [#permalink] New post 05 Jun 2012, 13:18
Bunuel: can we rewrite |x|=|2y| as x^2-4x^2=0 ?
I have solved the problem doing so, but not sure if it algebraically correct.
Below what i did:

(x-2y)(x+2y)=0

Using statement 1:
(x-2y)*6=0
so, (x-2y)=0. Sufficient

Using statement 2:
x=2y [same sign]
(x-2y)=0. Sufficient

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Re: |x|=|2y|, what is the value of x-2y? [#permalink] New post 07 Jun 2012, 14:35
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Bunuel: can we rewrite |x|=|2y| as x^2-4x^2=0 ?
I have solved the problem doing so, but not sure if it algebraically correct.
Below what i did:

(x-2y)(x+2y)=0

Using statement 1:
(x-2y)*6=0
so, (x-2y)=0. Sufficient

Using statement 2:
x=2y [same sign]
(x-2y)=0. Sufficient

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Yes, you can square |x|=|2y| and write x^2=4y^2 --> (x-2y)(x+2y)=0 --> either x=2y or x=-2y the same two options as in my solution above.
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Re: |x|=|2y|, what is the value of x-2y? [#permalink] New post 24 Jul 2012, 16:10
Bunuel wrote:
BDSunDevil wrote:
Bunuel: can we rewrite |x|=|2y| as x^2-4x^2=0 ?
I have solved the problem doing so, but not sure if it algebraically correct.
Below what i did:

(x-2y)(x+2y)=0

Using statement 1:
(x-2y)*6=0
so, (x-2y)=0. Sufficient

Using statement 2:
x=2y [same sign]
(x-2y)=0. Sufficient

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Yes, you can square |x|=|2y| and write x^2=4y^2 --> (x-2y)(x+2y)=0 --> either x=2y or x=-2y the same two options as in my solution above.



Hi Bunuel,

I had a query regarding an official statement in the solution to this problem.
Actually, the book says that , as, x+2y=6 , so a positive sum indicates that both x and 2y must be positive.
However, -4+10= 10+(-4) = 6 =positive sum [both x and 2y are not positive] 10+4=14= positive sum [both x & 2y are positive] isn't it?
Please clarify the confusion here..
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Re: IxI = I2yI what is the value of x - 2y? [#permalink] New post 26 Jan 2013, 12:08
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IxI = I2yI what is the value of x - 2y?

1) x + 2y = 6
2) xy > 0

I can understand what to do with statement 2. Statement 1, I have no clue what to do with it!

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x + 2y = 6
Hence we know that x is not equal to -2y, but |x| = |2y|
So, x = 2y
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If |x| = |2y| [#permalink] New post 16 Apr 2013, 19:48
If |x| = |2y| , what is the value of x – 2y?
(1) x + 2y = 6
(2) xy>0
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Re: If |x| = |2y| [#permalink] New post 16 Apr 2013, 21:02
Here is a thread already answered by Bunnel

http://gmatclub.com/forum/x-2y-what-is-the-value-of-x-2y-133307.html#p1089779

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