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Yellow jackets number among the 900 or so species of the world's social wasps, wasps living in a highly cooperative and organized society where they consist almost entirely of females—the queen and her sterile female workers. A. wasps living in a highly cooperative and organized society where they consist almost entirely of B. wasps that live in a highly cooperative and organized society consisting almost entirely of C. which means they live in a highly cooperative and organized society, almost all D. which means that their society is highly cooperative, organized, and it is almost entirely E. living in a society that is highly cooperative, organized, and it consists of almost all
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muhemmedhammad wrote: Yellow jackets number among the 900 or so species of the world's social wasps, wasps living in a highly cooperative and organized society where they consist almost entirely of females-the queen and her sterile female workers.
(A) wasps living in a highly cooperative and organized society where they consist almost entirely of (B) wasps that live in a highly cooperative and organized society consisting almost entirely of (C) which means they live in a highly cooperative and organized society, almost all (D) which means that their society is highly cooperative, organized, and it is almost entirely (E) living in a society that is highly cooperative, organized, and it consists of almost all
I need the right answer and a good explanation answer B not c or d because the antecedent of "which" is social wasps. It's like saying -- social wasps means that they live. Doesn't really make sense. e is no parallel in a the use of "they consist" is not correct because it refers to wasps when it should refer to society because society consists of something not wasps consist of something
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Umm, B? Thought E came close but the 'it' in the answer choice doesn't quite sound right.
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Explanations plz ... Opinions take us nowhere  Yellow jackets number among the 900 or so species of the world’s social wasps, wasps living ... Is it acceptable to have two wasps one after the other ... Also what is the second clause ... is it a modifier or a subclause ?? ... Im totally clueless ... someone pls help Also can someone plz elaborate on each of the options ... Thanks in advance
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chiayu wrote: Yellow jackets number among the 900 or so species of the world'd social wasps, wasps living in a highly cooperative and organized society where they consist almost entirely of females- the queen and her sterile female workers.
A) wasps living in a highly cooperative and organized society where they consist almost entirely of B) wasps that live in a highly cooperative and organized society consisting almost entirely of C) which means they live in a highly cooperative and organized society, almost all D) which means that their society is highly cooperative, organized, and it is almost entirely E) living in a society that is highly cooperative, organized, and it consists of almost all
The correct answer is B.
My questions is why answer B starts with wasps. Answers C, D, and E are adjective clauses describing previous sentence or wasps. But why answer B starts with wasps. Is it an appositive?
Thank you for your help:) Lets make sentence a bit simple.... red ants number among the 900 or so species of the worlds ants, ants living in a highly cooperative and organized society where they consist almost entirely of females- the X and the Y..... C & D are outright wrong because in " which means" which would refer to ants that cannot mean anything stated later on. E is wrong because even if "It" may refer to society it is redudant and not parallel...the sentence should have been... living in a society that is highly cooperative and organized, consisting of almost all... Now between A&B... First your query.... An appositive is a noun or noun phrase that immediately follows another noun. An appositive explains or defines the noun it follows and is set off by commas. eg: Mexico City, the biggest city in the world, has many interesting archaeological sites. Mexico City = the biggest city in the world Appositives are always set off by commas. Another interesting aspect of appositives is that they can always be exchanged with the nouns they modify as in another example: The altitude of Lhasa, the capital of Tibet, is over 12,000 feet. The altitude of the capital of Tibet, Lhasa, is over 12,000 feet. So clearly wasps living in a highly cooperative.....is not an appositive but a modifier clause that modifies worlds social wasps... Now again coming back to a&b A has a big problem....it says that they consist of....where only logical referrant to they is wasps. But we know that wasps can not consist of females but a society can.... So clearly the Answer is B...
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Quote: herrgrau wrote : wasps living in a highly cooperative and organized society where they consist almost entirely of What does they refer to? It sounds like the wasp itself is part female and part male. this is wrong .i dont understand where did u find "male part" in the sentence when its clearly mentioned that the society consists almost entirely of females !!! the real reason as why A is wrong is that its the society that can consist almost entirely of females and not "the wasps" as propounded by A
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Genopath wrote: B: Yellow jackets number among the 900 or so species of the world's social wasps, wasps that live in a highly cooperative and organized society consisting almost entirely of...
Isn't this a run-on sentence? Hi Genopath B is not a run-on sentence. Run-on error doesn't mean a long sentence, a really short sentence, however, could be run-on. If you separate two parts in B into two sentences. The second subject would be "wasps" in general. That will changes the intended meaning. The intended meaning is that Yellow jackets are wasps that live in................... The second part "wasps that live...." modifies the subject - Yellow jackets. Hence, we cannot put a dot between two parts. Hope it helps.
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Genopath wrote: B: Yellow jackets number among the 900 or so species of the world's social wasps, wasps that live in a highly cooperative and organized society consisting almost entirely of...
Isn't this a run-on sentence? A run-on sentence is when two independent clauses are connected by a comma. Here, wasps that live in a highly cooperative and organized society consisting almost entirely of... is not independent clause (in fact, it is not a clause at all; it is a phrase). This kind of contruct is very common on GMAT (because it is not intuitive and is never used in verbal communication). A lot of questions test you on this and you would be well advised to make yourself comfortable. Following are a couple of sentences in OG that use this construct (I have put the correct option in bold and italicized the absolute modifier): Scientists have observed large concentrations of heavy-metal deposits in the upper twenty centimeters of Baltic Sea sediments, which are consistent with the growth of industrial activity there.(A) Baltic Sea sediments, which are consistent with the growth of industrial activity there (B) Baltic Sea sediments, where the growth of industrial activity is consistent with these findings (C) Baltic Sea sediments, findings consistent with its growth of industrial activity (D) sediments from the Baltic Sea, findings consistent with the growth of industrial activity in the area (E) sediments from the Baltic Sea, consistent with the growth of industrial activity there Another example from Official Verbal supplement: Floating in the waters of the equatorial Pacific, an array of buoys collects and transmits data on long-term interactions between the ocean and the atmosphere, interactions that affect global climate. A. atmosphere, interactions that affectB. atmosphere, with interactions affecting C. atmosphere that affects D. atmosphere that is affecting E. atmosphere as affects Let me know if you want more examples and I can pull them up. There is no dearth of sentences using absolute modifier: ).
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Yellow jackets number among the 900 or so species of the world's social wasps, wasps living in a highly cooperative and organized society where they consist almost entirely of females-the queen and her sterile female workers.
A. wasps living in a highly cooperative and organized society where they consist almost entirely of
B. wasps that live in a highly cooperative and organized society consisting almost entirely of
C. which means they live in a highly cooperative and organized society, almost all
D. which means that their society is highly cooperative, organized, and it is almost entirely
E. living in a society that is highly cooperative, organized, and it consists of almost all
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Paul wrote: Had some trouble b/w A and B. I think A on second thought is better
I had the same trouble but I think I will go for B.
I think A has following problem:
1.wasps living in a highly cooperative and organized society where they consist almost entirely of
THEY has no Referant. It reads to me as if WASPS consist of... where as it's the socitey.
For E ..."IT" is intrusive and has no referant. It breaks IIism and moreover "almost" is awakward and changes the meaning too.
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Hmmm, I went for B first but I see my mistake now by switching to A  . A's appositive structure includes a verb but yet, "consist of" should not be there because a phrase has no verb! I was just bothered by the fact that B has active voice "consisting of" which is not as good as "consist of". However, in this case, it seems best as it avoids the inclusion of an intrusive verb. It seems like not doing verbal questions for a while makes you rusty
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saurabhmalpani wrote: Paul wrote: Had some trouble b/w A and B. I think A on second thought is better I had the same trouble but I think I will go for B. I think A has following problem: 1.wasps living in a highly cooperative and organized society where they consist almost entirely of THEY has no Referant. It reads to me as if WASPS consist of... where as it's the socitey. For E ..."IT" is intrusive and has no referant. It breaks IIism and moreover "almost" is awakward and changes the meaning too. Saurabh Malpani
I am confused with the usage of "wasps" again in "B", the stem talks abt "Yellow Jackets" specifically, making it a subject, usage of "wasps" in B again alters the meaning of the stem, making it sound like stem talks abt wasps in general and not "Yellow Jacket".....me confused
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I will go with B as well
A has a problem by using "where" B fixes this problem with relative pronoun that
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Between (A) and (B), will go with (B).
(A) - ... world's social wasps, wasps living in a highly cooperative and organized society where they consist almost entirely of females ... "where" does not do well to qualify the organized society, if that's what it was there for.
(B) - ... wasps that live in a highly cooperative and organized society consisting almost entirely of females ... - cooperative and organized society consising almost entirely ... is a more appropriate usage.
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Yellow jackets number among the 900 or so species of the world's social wasps, wasps living in a highly cooperative and organized society where they consist almost entirely of females-the queen and her sterile female workers.
A. wasps living in a highly cooperative and organized society where they consist almost entirely of
Yellow jackets number among ... wasps, wasps living ... Doesn't seem to flow
Also "they" is wrong
B. wasps that live in a highly cooperative and organized society consisting almost entirely of
Yellow jackets number among ... wasps, wasps that ...
Same with A, doesn't flow
C. which means they live in a highly cooperative and organized society, almost all
"almost all females" seems to be fragmental.
D. which means that their society is highly cooperative, organized, and it is almost entirely
"it" refers to "their society", seems alright.
E. living in a society that is highly cooperative, organized, and it consists of almost all
"consist of almost all females" wrong in meaning? Is the use of "it" correct?
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Hmmm Ok D is not right because "a sociaty is female" doesn't sound right. The next best would be E then.
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I say B...even though it sounds awkward the construction seems right.... that live in a highly cooperative and organized society consisting almost entirely of ...
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I would go with B.
E is bad becasuse the modifier is wrong.
First of all there are no pronouns used in this. In C, D to which does they/their correspond. Does that world relate to Wasps or the complete species??
The same case is applicable with A too.
so when I narrow down between A and B, My vote would be for B(with no pronouns that create confusion)
Paul, why did you switch your answer from B to A?? what abt the pronoun?
whats the OA??
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B is about a figure of style and is in no way redundant
ie I like flowers, flowers so beautiful that they would cost me an arm.
There is nothing wrong with the above which marks an emphasis on the target word "flowers"
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Paul wrote: B is about a figure of style and is in no way redundant
ie I like flowers, flowers so beautiful that they would cost me an arm.
There is nothing wrong with the above which marks an emphasis on the target word "flowers"
Shouldn't there be a semicolone between the two independent sentences in absence of a conjunction.
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