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# 11.The man was always aware, sometimes proudly and sometimes

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11.The man was always aware, sometimes proudly and sometimes resentfully, that he was a small-town Midwesterner who was thrust into a world that was dominated by wealthier, better-educated, and more polished people than him.
(A) who was thrust into a world that was dominated by wealthier, better-educated, and more polished people than him
(B) who had been thrust into a world that was dominated by more wealthy, educated, and polished people than him
(C) who had been thrust into a world dominated by wealthier, better-educated, and people more polished than he was
(D) thrust into a world dominated by more wealthy, educated, and polished people than him
(E) thrust into a world dominated by wealthier, better-educated, and more polished people than he

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11 Jun 2004, 23:22
A is my FA..

He was a midwestener who was thrust into the world.

was thrust is a verb and midwestener thrust is a noun.

the man was aware that he was a smalltimer and was pushed into the world which was .....................

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12 Jun 2004, 09:47
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11.The man was always aware, sometimes proudly and sometimes resentfully, that he was a small-town Midwesterner who was thrust into a world that was dominated by wealthier, better-educated, and more polished people than him.
(A) who was thrust into a world that was dominated by wealthier, better-educated, and more polished people than him
(B) who had been thrust into a world that was dominated by more wealthy, educated, and polished people than him
(C) who had been thrust into a world dominated by wealthier, better-educated, and people more polished than he was
(D) thrust into a world dominated by more wealthy, educated, and polished people than him
(E) thrust into a world dominated by wealthier, better-educated, and more polished people than he

It's a difficult one with several things to consider.

I believe that correct usage is 'better than he', so all the answers using 'better than him' should be eliminated. A, B, and D - eliminated.

That leaves C and E. C shouldn't be it, because of how 'wealthier, better-educated, and people more polished than he was' sounds. Clearly a wrong structure.

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12 Jun 2004, 11:20
A should be it.
We are comparing PEOPLE with the MAN. PEOPLE is in the objective case; hence HIM should come.

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12 Jun 2004, 12:21
i will go for E

As SmashingGrace Mentioned the usage "than he" is better "than him"
because the man is the subject of this sentence; so we shouldn't change the position of the man from subject to object ( than him)

so, we have only C and E

i use parallel structure to cut C off

(C) who had been thrust into a world dominated by wealthier, better-educated, and people more polished than he was

i think the red color is wrong because it should be this structure (ADJ+N)
so, polished should modify people as follows

By wealthier, better-educated,and more polished people
and E does it
so, E is my FA

Anyways, i am not sure about the word thrust into in E

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12 Jun 2004, 13:01
E

Pretty much same reason as the other e-supporters

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12 Jun 2004, 19:09
E it is
better than he[was] --> "was" is ellipsed
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13 Jun 2004, 19:50
The man was always aware, sometimes proudly and sometimes resentfully, that he was a small-town Midwesterner.

This is a complete sentence. Next you need an adjective phrase qualifying the noun Midwestner.

Midwestener who was thrust into - is grammatically correct but wordy
Midwestener thurst into - correct and concise.

You can ellipse "was" and just keep "he" to further compact the sentence.
The condition of Midwestener should hold good when the man felt who he was. Using had been means he was such Midwestner sometime back and not so when he was thinking what kind of man he was.
Using past perfect is not correct here.

(C) has all the above problems I mentioned.

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13 Jun 2004, 21:21
Conciseness is what distinguish E from C

Ex:
C) Armstrong was the first astronaut who had been launched to the moon
E) Armstrong was the first astronaut launched to the moon

There is nothing wrong with the second sentence and it is more concise than the first one. According to ETS, as long as it makes sense, the shorter the better
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23 Jun 2004, 10:18
OA is E.
Can anybody explain here the reason for using he instead of him. ?

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23 Jun 2004, 19:30
Paul wrote:
E it is
better than he[was] --> "was" is ellipsed

Could you please complete the sentence with the rest of the ellipsed
sentence? I still can't understand the comparison.

For example, if we say, "Ram is taller than I"
then we meant "Ram is taller than I [ am tall].

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24 Jun 2004, 12:07
Paul wrote:
E it is
better than he[was] --> "was" is ellipsed

Could you please complete the sentence with the rest of the ellipsed
sentence? I still can't understand the comparison.

For example, if we say, "Ram is taller than I"
then we meant "Ram is taller than I [ am tall].

Your example is fine. The issue in this question is to distinguish between the use of subject vs object form of pronoun

Ram is taller than I [am tall] --> "am tall" is ellipsed(removed) as this makes for a more elegant form and efficient use of words in english
Ram is taller than I am tall --> Taken as is, we have two verbs. "is" and "am" and each verbs need a subject to complete the action they convey. Hence, subject form "I" is needed.

Ram will wash the dishes for him
"him" in this context has the object form. You need that form because "him" is not performing any action; rather it gives detail as to what the subject is doing. Object form usually comes after a preposition.
Ram will wash the dishes for who? For him

This is a link to elliptical clauses
http://webster.commnet.edu/grammar/clau ... al_clauses
And this is a link to the use of pronouns(object, subject)
http://aliscot.com/bigdog/pronouns.htm
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30 Oct 2007, 12:35
This was last discussed in 2004?

Any experts to dissect this now

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30 Oct 2007, 12:38
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I believe that correct usage is 'better than he', so all the answers using 'better than him' should be eliminated. A, B, and D - eliminated.

Better than He Vs Better than Him

which is correct??

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21 Nov 2007, 11:25
baruna wrote:
11.The man was always aware, sometimes proudly and sometimes resentfully, that he was a small-town Midwesterner who was thrust into a world that was dominated by wealthier, better-educated, and more polished people than him.
(A) who was thrust into a world that was dominated by wealthier, better-educated, and more polished people than him
(B) who had been thrust into a world that was dominated by more wealthy, educated, and polished people than him
(C) who had been thrust into a world dominated by wealthier, better-educated, and people more polished than he was
(D) thrust into a world dominated by more wealthy, educated, and polished people than him
(E) thrust into a world dominated by wealthier, better-educated, and more polished people than he

Great SC for elipsis....I agree that you should not change the subject to an object so the word "he"

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Re: than he/him   [#permalink] 21 Nov 2007, 11:25
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