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# 3rd Manhattan GMAT CAT - 640 (Q: 44, V: 33)

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Hey guys,

I just took my 3rd Manhattan GMAT CAT. I got a 640 (Q44, V33).

My 1st 2 attempts were as follows:

MGMAT CAT1: 600 - 36Q, 35V
MGMAT CAT2: 590 - 39Q, 33V

I felt a little more rushed on the verbal section than I did on the quant, but I was still very surprised. This was the highest quant score I've received, and I felt like I was guessing on 1/3 of the questions. I am also very surprised that my verbal score is so stubbornly low. I have been doing OG CR + SC problems and I have been getting close to 80% of them right from the middle-back part of the OG11. Is MGMAT Verbal different or more difficult than the real thing?

I have 8 weeks to go until my test date (June 27th). I have 4 more sessions of my in-person MGMAT class to go. I also have 3 more MGMAT CATs that I can go ahead and take without getting repeats.

What should my game plan be? I want to shoot for 750, and I'd be perfectly happy with 710-730. I know that I need to get my verbal up to at least a 40. Reading Comprehension is my achilles heal, and I just can't seem to improve it.

Is it realistic to shoot for about a V42 and Q48 for a composite score of 740? It doesn't seem like I have very long to go on Quant, but Verbal is a whole different story.
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25 Apr 2008, 17:09
MGMAT CATs are not a good indicator of your eventual score, although they are excellent practice for nailing down concepts. You are likely doing all of the right things already, study-wise. Do take all of the MGMAT CATs, but take those scores with a grain of salt. I found the verbal sections of those CATs to be quite challenging, and I ended up with 98% verbal on the real test. Finish up your class - I took the MGMAT class too - and then start taking GMATpreps, over and over again. You will be up to speed and scoring well in no time. The GMATprep exams are your best score predictor, by far - uncannily so. Hope this helps.
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25 Apr 2008, 18:30
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MGMAT CATs are not a good indicator of your eventual score, although they are excellent practice for nailing down concepts. You are likely doing all of the right things already, study-wise. Do take all of the MGMAT CATs, but take those scores with a grain of salt. I found the verbal sections of those CATs to be quite challenging, and I ended up with 98% verbal on the real test. Finish up your class - I took the MGMAT class too - and then start taking GMATpreps, over and over again. You will be up to speed and scoring well in no time. The GMATprep exams are your best score predictor, by far - uncannily so. Hope this helps.

I just noticed you got a 46Q, 45V. Man, I would kill for that score! And I know it's within reach too. I'm naturally not a great quant person, so I may cap out at 46-48 on Quant, but I think anyone can do well on Verbal as long as they put in the time.
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Re: 3rd Manhattan GMAT CAT - 640 (Q: 44, V: 33) [#permalink]

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25 Apr 2008, 23:44
Guys I just realised after all this time that MGMATs are free if you purchase even a single book.

I now have only 6 days.

Did MGMAT1 - Got 690 (Q46, V38)

How many you guys think I should do. I have given GMATPrep1 thrice all 7xx and GMATPrep2 which I screwed up on verbal 650 (Q49, V48)

What would be best strategy for optimally combining MGMATs and GMATPreps this last week.

I thought I will give 2 more MGMATs and repeat GMATPrep2 twice and thats it. Leave last 2 days to relax.

However I want 700+ I think I have not been consistent so far and dont feel rock solid.
But I guess I never will

Thanks for inputs.
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26 Apr 2008, 17:08
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Guys I just realised after all this time that MGMATs are free if you purchase even a single book.

I now have only 6 days.

Did MGMAT1 - Got 690 (Q46, V38)

How many you guys think I should do. I have given GMATPrep1 thrice all 7xx and GMATPrep2 which I screwed up on verbal 650 (Q49, V48)

What would be best strategy for optimally combining MGMATs and GMATPreps this last week.

I thought I will give 2 more MGMATs and repeat GMATPrep2 twice and thats it. Leave last 2 days to relax.

However I want 700+ I think I have not been consistent so far and dont feel rock solid.
But I guess I never will

Thanks for inputs.

With 6 days left, in all honesty, I would just be taking GMATpreps now. Even if you see repeat questions, since you will get them right this time around, your score will be higher and the CAT will dig up more difficult questions from the question bank to test you. Do the GMATpreps, continue to log your errors so you see where you are shaky, and that's it. If you have the MGMAT books, the number properties one is invaluable for the quant section, and the SC is great for the verbal. I mention these only because increasing your hit rate on the SCs is generally easier than reading comp or CR, and the quant section - even in the more challenging questions - is really all about locking down your understanding of number properties. But really, now you should focus your best efforts on the GMATpreps. Best of luck!!
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26 Apr 2008, 19:11
My scores have been the following:

3/2/2008 KAPLAN 640 (Q40, V41)
3/22/2008 MGMAT 690 (Q38, V45)
3/29/2008 PR 660 (Q43, V39)
4/13/2008 MGMAT 640 (Q40, V37)
4/26/2008 MGMAT 650 (Q44, V35)

From what I've gathered, your quant score will be higher by a few points on the real GMAT vs. the MGMAT. What I've noticed is that the really hard MGMAT quant questions, are hard because they are long, not necessarily because they are technically difficult.

As you can see from my scores, the MGMAT verbals are all over the place. I went from 99 percentile down to 75 percentile, even though my sentence correction skills have rapidly improved.

What I've noticed is that none of the practice tests really replicate the GMAT questions (at least from the 11th Ed. guide). I think the GMAT people take a lot of care to make the questions unambiguous. That way you spend less time trying to understand the questions. I think that has a real impact on the quality of the practice verbals questions (I've read a few explanations that left me scratching my head, while all the explanations for the real GMAT questions were quite straightforward).

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26 Apr 2008, 22:55
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My scores have been the following:

3/2/2008 KAPLAN 640 (Q40, V41)
3/22/2008 MGMAT 690 (Q38, V45)
3/29/2008 PR 660 (Q43, V39)
4/13/2008 MGMAT 640 (Q40, V37)
4/26/2008 MGMAT 650 (Q44, V35)

From what I've gathered, your quant score will be higher by a few points on the real GMAT vs. the MGMAT. What I've noticed is that the really hard MGMAT quant questions, are hard because they are long, not necessarily because they are technically difficult.

As you can see from my scores, the MGMAT verbals are all over the place. I went from 99 percentile down to 75 percentile, even though my sentence correction skills have rapidly improved.

What I've noticed is that none of the practice tests really replicate the GMAT questions (at least from the 11th Ed. guide). I think the GMAT people take a lot of care to make the questions unambiguous. That way you spend less time trying to understand the questions. I think that has a real impact on the quality of the practice verbals questions (I've read a few explanations that left me scratching my head, while all the explanations for the real GMAT questions were quite straightforward).

NN

I'm really wondering what you'll get on your first GMATPrep. Please let me know when you take it.
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27 Apr 2008, 08:39
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I'm really wondering what you'll get on your first GMATPrep. Please let me know when you take it.

I've got 7 weeks until the real test, so I'll probably make my first attempt in 2-3 weeks.

I'll be sure to post my results.

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27 Apr 2008, 08:40
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terp06 wrote:
I'm really wondering what you'll get on your first GMATPrep. Please let me know when you take it.

I've got 7 weeks until the real test, so I'll probably make my first attempt in 2-3 weeks.

I'll be sure to post my results.

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Sounds like we're practically on the same page. My test is in 8 weeks and I'm scoring similar to you.
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27 Apr 2008, 09:14
Guys, did you practice SETs? If yes, can you please share your average scores.
Thanks a bunch in advance. (sorry to deviate from the subject terp06)
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27 Apr 2008, 09:26
what is SETs?
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