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A deserving Knock, Now Rock the Applications. All the Best!


honchos, thanks but I think I should be the one congratulating you on your 790 :shock: :shock: Amazing work. Will look forward to your 750 to 790 debrief.


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honchos, thanks but I think I should be the one congratulating you on your 790 :shock: :shock: Amazing work. Will look forward to your 750 to 790 debrief.
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Brilliant Stuff! Some of the points which you have mentioned are gold mines if picked up and practiced with, religiously.
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+1 for a comprehensive yet precise debrief.
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Congratulations! Thanks for sharing your study experience in details. Could you share about your experience with critical reasoning practice more?

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CR is actually present in both, CR itself and RC in GMAT Verbal. The best way, IMO, is to read the question/recognize the type of question (weaken/strengthen/assumption etc), read the prompt, understand the structure, break it down into general information/premise/counterpremise/assumptions etc and then do 'pre-think' as to what could ONE possible answer be to plug in the CR gap. This pre-think answer may or may not be present in the options but doing this will surely help you make sense of the question raised and the prompt given to you. Then use POE (process of elimination) with genuine reasons to eliminate all but 1 option. Doing this will make you confident of your choice.

I made sure to hit <2 minute mark while practicing and used OG (only medium and hard questions) and LSAT LR for practice. Exhausted all GMATPREP questions as well in my practice.

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CR is actually present in both, CR itself and RC in GMAT Verbal. The best way, IMO, is to read the question/recognize the type of question (weaken/strengthen/assumption etc), read the prompt, understand the structure, break it down into general information/premise/counterpremise/assumptions etc and then do 'pre-think' as to what could ONE possible answer be to plug in the CR gap. This pre-think answer may or may not be present in the options but doing this will surely help you make sense of the question raised and the prompt given to you. Then use POE (process of elimination) with genuine reasons to eliminate all but 1 option. Doing this will make you confident of your choice.

I made sure to hit <2 minute mark while practicing and used OG (only medium and hard questions) and LSAT LR for practice. Exhausted all GMATPREP questions as well in my practice.

Hope this helps.


Thank you for the advice! Is there anything that you find particularly useful to boost Verbal score by 10 points from GMAT 2 to 3? That's a really good result from 2-month studying.


Getting ESR from mba.com to understand what were the areas of improvement, making sure to focus on a 'habit' for answering SC/CR/RC questions. Treating RCs as big CR prompts and pre-thinking for ALL CR/RC questions would be the ones I would say helped me the most.
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Harley1980, thanks.

In this attempt , I felt that (be it during mocks or the actual GMAT) the correct answer was very easy to pick once you understood the implied meaning/ structure be it SC, CR or RC questions. Stick to a method in verbal and you will be rewarded. Yes, I did do a lot of courses just because I have a very particular method of study and I need to feel comfortable in order to understand concepts vi a particular method of teaching. For me, a combination of these methods worked.

All the best for your preparation .


Hi Engr2012,
First congratulation for your great score. I think a IR6 is absolutely enough, so you shouldn't bother with it.
I'm preparing for the 2nd attempts in the next few days after a 640 (Q50, V26) 2 months ago. I just want to know something about the ESR. Do you have to buy it twice, each after a real test, or just once for all tests?
Regarding to the Questions Pack 1, I wonder how you could create Verbal tests with the annoyed fact that the RC questions come from different passages (maybe 10 questions from 5-6 passages for example). This is the feature of Questions Pack 1 that I really dislike and that prevents me from buying it.

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Hi Engr2012,
First congratulation for your great score. I think a IR6 is absolutely enough, so you shouldn't bother with it.
I'm preparing for the 2nd attempts in the next few days after a 640 (Q50, V26) 2 months ago. I just want to know something about the ESR. Do you have to buy it twice, each after a real test, or just once for all tests?
Regarding to the Questions Pack 1, I wonder how you could create Verbal tests with the annoyed fact that the RC questions come from different passages (maybe 10 questions from 5-6 passages for example). This is the feature of Questions Pack 1 that I really dislike and that prevents me from buying it.

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Thanks. ESR can only be applied to 1 exam and if you give another GMAT, you will have to buy ESR activation code again.

I hated question pack 1 for the same reasons. For RCs I used to write down the time when I started a passage and made sure that I finished a passage + questions in 6-8 minutes maximum. For question pack 1, if I got 1 question for a new passage , I would time myself to keep myself within 3-3.5 minutes while for another question for the same passage I would keep myself within 1-1.2 minutes. This way , the total time I spent on 1 passage would come out to be in the range 6-8 minutes.

This method is not the most ideal but did work for me.

Hope this helps.

All the best with your next attempt.
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Congratulations for your score.
Can you tell that for a verbal score of 41-44, approximately many number of questions did you answer incorrectly.
And how many questions should be answered correctly in first 10.
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Harley1980, thanks.

In this attempt , I felt that (be it during mocks or the actual GMAT) the correct answer was very easy to pick once you understood the implied meaning/ structure be it SC, CR or RC questions. Stick to a method in verbal and you will be rewarded. Yes, I did do a lot of courses just because I have a very particular method of study and I need to feel comfortable in order to understand concepts vi a particular method of teaching. For me, a combination of these methods worked.

All the best for your preparation .


Hi Engr2012,
First congratulation for your great score. I think a IR6 is absolutely enough, so you shouldn't bother with it.
I'm preparing for the 2nd attempts in the next few days after a 640 (Q50, V26) 2 months ago. I just want to know something about the ESR. Do you have to buy it twice, each after a real test, or just once for all tests?
Regarding to the Questions Pack 1, I wonder how you could create Verbal tests with the annoyed fact that the RC questions come from different passages (maybe 10 questions from 5-6 passages for example). This is the feature of Questions Pack 1 that I really dislike and that prevents me from buying it.

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Hello tronghieu1987

In question pack 1 you can choose option "In sequence" and select all questions then you will receive all passage questions one by one.
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Harley1980, thanks.

In this attempt , I felt that (be it during mocks or the actual GMAT) the correct answer was very easy to pick once you understood the implied meaning/ structure be it SC, CR or RC questions. Stick to a method in verbal and you will be rewarded. Yes, I did do a lot of courses just because I have a very particular method of study and I need to feel comfortable in order to understand concepts vi a particular method of teaching. For me, a combination of these methods worked.

All the best for your preparation .


Hi Engr2012,
First congratulation for your great score. I think a IR6 is absolutely enough, so you shouldn't bother with it.
I'm preparing for the 2nd attempts in the next few days after a 640 (Q50, V26) 2 months ago. I just want to know something about the ESR. Do you have to buy it twice, each after a real test, or just once for all tests?
Regarding to the Questions Pack 1, I wonder how you could create Verbal tests with the annoyed fact that the RC questions come from different passages (maybe 10 questions from 5-6 passages for example). This is the feature of Questions Pack 1 that I really dislike and that prevents me from buying it.

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Hello tronghieu1987

In question pack 1 you can choose option "In sequence" and select all questions then you will receive all passage questions one by one.


Thanks Harley for the hint. However, what I need from Questions Pack 1 is the ability to create 41-question-Verbal mini tests, one by one. Selecting all questions will not make sense. Regard to this problem, I think we should stick to GMAT Prep collections, provided that they are not completely depleted. The quality of questions between the two probably is the same, while there are many explanations for GMAT Prep questions available, one thing that Questions Pack lacks.
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Congratulations for your score.
Can you tell that for a verbal score of 41-44, approximately many number of questions did you answer incorrectly.
And how many questions should be answered correctly in first 10.


Of course he/she would not know. I think you probably want to have a look at this topic gmat-prep-software-analysis-and-what-if-scenarios-146146.html, or you can figure the answer your-self by making your won scenarios.
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Congratulations for your score.
Can you tell that for a verbal score of 41-44, approximately many number of questions did you answer incorrectly.
And how many questions should be answered correctly in first 10.



No one can tell you how many incorrect questions were there based on the actual GMAT but the 2 GMATPREP that I gave just before my GMAT 3 attempt, I got a V42 and V41 with 6 and 9 incorrect respectively. Number of incorrect in the first 10 were 3 each. This just goes to show that the algorithm behind GMATPREP and GMAT is much more complex that a simple "what/if" scenario and I for one do not agree with such scenarios.
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Ok. Thanks a lot :)
all the best for your application rounds.
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This is great thank you! I am prepping for a third attempt myself with my last score at 710. Would you mind sharing your study schedule between test 2 and 3? i.e. hours, how you practiced, etc. I am struggling with how to best approach my practice and study habits this time around. Thank you again!
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This is great thank you! I am prepping for a third attempt myself with my last score at 710. Would you mind sharing your study schedule between test 2 and 3? i.e. hours, how you practiced, etc. I am struggling with how to best approach my practice and study habits this time around. Thank you again!


First of all, get Enhanced score report, see what section(s) could have been improved and then focus on them. I spent majority of my time on CR and RC with OG ad LSAT practice sets as the backbone of my preparation. I spent 3 weeks before my 3rd attempt on honing the RC and CR skills while not letting Quant and SC to slip up. I finished OG and Verbal review for SC,RC and CR and followed it up by some targeted practice from LSAT LR and RC sets. Made sure that the entire practice was timed with good accuracy. Was not interested in giving full CATs this time around as I knew what to expect in the GMAT. So just gave 2 GMATPREP mocks with quant and verbal only just to figure exactly where I stood. Got 760 both time and was thus confident of going into the 3rd attempt. Quality of LSAT LR and RC is pretty high and they are very good practice after you have solved and understood questions in OG. For verbal, rely only on official questions and as LSAT is also a standardized exam, the quality is top notch.

I used the following things primarily,

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I did take a week off from work , a week before the GMAT. So all in all close to 120 hours over 3 weeks.

You already have a 710, so concepts are in place. Its all a matter now of fine tuning those concepts, improving time management and making sure to reduce the number of incorrect answers.

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Brilliant Stuff! Some of the points which you have mentioned are gold mines if picked up and practiced with, religiously.
All the best for the application process.

+1 for a comprehensive yet precise debrief.


Thanks earnit

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