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Nice detailed debrief :-D You have the exact breakups as I have apart from IR. :-D
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Congratz on your superb score!

You mention that Kaplan Premier Tests were very good, even I am using the KapTests from the Kaplan Premier 2015 Book, however I feel the score they provide is inflated- I got a 720 Q51 V 30 after 12 mistakes in quant and 20 mistakes in verbal, Is Q51 even possible after 12 mistakes?

What is your insights on the scoring they provide? Is it worth the time and effort taking Kaplan's Cats considering the inflated score?

Thanks in advance.

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I felt the same way about some of the scoring on the tests. Looking at a standard score table, I agree that some of Kaplan's scoring can seem skewed. I had a couple of Kaplan tests that were inflated. I wasn't as worried about their scoring, though, as much as I was trying to mimic the test difficulty. In this area, I think Kaplan is as good as GMAT Prep. Compared to a Veritas or MGMAT test, the Kaplan tests "felt" difficult at the right times and seemed to follow an adaptive algorithm much like the official tests do.

Given my prep schedule, I wanted to get all the non-official tests out of the way so that I could finish up with the GMAT Prep tests. The main benefit of using the Kaplan Premier tests was the repetition of 5 tests (6th one is in the book). I was diligent about taking a test every weekend, so instead of worrying about the score too much, I was building up the stamina and understanding how to switch my brain to different types of logic every couple of minutes. For this reason, to answer your question, I do think the Kaplan Premier tests are worth the effort.

The only reason I would worry about their final scoring is if it fluctuates dramatically. If you're scoring around 720 each time, then don't worry too much. If you're getting a lot of fluctuation, it might be the test algorithm, getting lucky/unlucky on some questions, or weakness in certain content areas. In any case, use all the non-official tests early on and save the score analysis for the GMAT Prep tests. Hope this helps.
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Alchemist14 wrote:
Yes!

What you tell makes a lot of sense. In 3 kaplan tests my scores were 720, 710 and 710 and I used to sweat after the Kaplan Verbal section. Their Verbal was way too extreme escpecially the RC. But their tests are helping me build stamina.

Thank you for the advice :)


One item you mentioned previously was that you were looking at number of questions missed. I don't think that's the best way to approach an assessment of a practice test. Look at the location of the missed question to gauge your performance. For example, if you missed a few questions at the end, it's probably not a bad thing because they were at your difficulty level, since a CAT will adjust it's difficulty to your ability. However, if you were missing questions in the beginning of the section, then it's either some test-taking issues or fundamental concepts that need retooling. Good luck with the prep!
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gr8 debrief ... +1 to you and your efforts to summarize the stuff for us :)
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This is the single best summary covering ALL components of studying for the GMAT that I've read on this site. Major kudos, and thank you for writing. You deserve that incredible score.
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Re: 670 to 760 (Q49/V44, IR 8, AWA 6.0) - No Stone Unturned for 8 Months [#permalink]
Great score! Congratulations.

Can you please provide details how often you studied every day and did you take time off from work.
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Great score! Congratulations.

Can you please provide details how often you studied every day and did you take time off from work.


Thank you! On weekdays I studied maybe 1-3 hours each night, and on weekends about 4-6 hours. I didn't take any time off from work besides normal holidays. By doing practice tests every Saturday, I got into the habit of a normal 5-day work week and prepping myself mentally on Friday nights for the test.
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First, congratulations! Your study plan seemed to be very well developed and dedicated. Second, thank you so much for sharing the information and your successful strategies with us. Reading this helped to point me in a few directions of materials, such as using the LSAT prep for RC questions! THANK YOU!
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Congrat!

Btw, where can you get "Cambridge LSAT Difficult RC Passages" for $10?

I wans't able to find it.

Please help me out!
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Wonderful Debrief. I love the dots Method suggested. Very good effort in summarizing your journey. Best wishes. ☺
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Congrat!

Btw, where can you get "Cambridge LSAT Difficult RC Passages" for $10?

I wans't able to find it.

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You can download it from here: https://www.cambridgelsat.com/problem-se ... rehension/

Scroll down the page and you will see it at the end.
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Congratulations! Thank you for sharing your experience.
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Nice detailed debrief :-D You have the exact breakups as I have apart from IR. :-D


Thanks! What were your IR and AWA scores? I didn't see them listed on your post.
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Congratz on your superb score!

You mention that Kaplan Premier Tests were very good, even I am using the KapTests from the Kaplan Premier 2015 Book, however I feel the score they provide is inflated- I got a 720 Q51 V 30 after 12 mistakes in quant and 20 mistakes in verbal, Is Q51 even possible after 12 mistakes?

What is your insights on the scoring they provide? Is it worth the time and effort taking Kaplan's Cats considering the inflated score?

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Alchemist14 wrote:
Congratz on your superb score!

You mention that Kaplan Premier Tests were very good, even I am using the KapTests from the Kaplan Premier 2015 Book, however I feel the score they provide is inflated- I got a 720 Q51 V 30 after 12 mistakes in quant and 20 mistakes in verbal, Is Q51 even possible after 12 mistakes?

What is your insights on the scoring they provide? Is it worth the time and effort taking Kaplan's Cats considering the inflated score?

Thanks in advance.

Regards,
Ray


I felt the same way about some of the scoring on the tests. Looking at a standard score table, I agree that some of Kaplan's scoring can seem skewed. I had a couple of Kaplan tests that were inflated. I wasn't as worried about their scoring, though, as much as I was trying to mimic the test difficulty. In this area, I think Kaplan is as good as GMAT Prep. Compared to a Veritas or MGMAT test, the Kaplan tests "felt" difficult at the right times and seemed to follow an adaptive algorithm much like the official tests do.

Given my prep schedule, I wanted to get all the non-official tests out of the way so that I could finish up with the GMAT Prep tests. The main benefit of using the Kaplan Premier tests was the repetition of 5 tests (6th one is in the book). I was diligent about taking a test every weekend, so instead of worrying about the score too much, I was building up the stamina and understanding how to switch my brain to different types of logic every couple of minutes. For this reason, to answer your question, I do think the Kaplan Premier tests are worth the effort.

The only reason I would worry about their final scoring is if it fluctuates dramatically. If you're scoring around 720 each time, then don't worry too much. If you're getting a lot of fluctuation, it might be the test algorithm, getting lucky/unlucky on some questions, or weakness in certain content areas. In any case, use all the non-official tests early on and save the score analysis for the GMAT Prep tests. Hope this helps.


Yes!

What you tell makes a lot of sense. In 3 kaplan tests my scores were 720, 710 and 710 and I used to sweat after the Kaplan Verbal section. Their Verbal was way too extreme escpecially the RC. But their tests are helping me build stamina.

Thank you for the advice :)
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Hi Alchemist14,

You've mentioned using 3 Kaplan CATs, but have you used any other CATs (such as the ones from www.mba.com)? It would be good to have a basis for comparison. You also have to factor in how realistically you made each CAT "event" - did you skip sections, pause the CAT, take it at home, do ANYTHING that you won't be allowed to do on the Official GMAT, etc? The more your CATs deviate from the Test Day norm, the more likely your scores are to be inaccurate (and often 'inflated').

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