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# A 1972 agreement between Canada and the United States reduce

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19 Jul 2007, 14:39
actually it all happened in the past. so 'A' is correct as the treaty reduced----the X------- had been allowed(past perfect) to dump.
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19 Jul 2007, 19:41
Shouldn't the answer be D. The agreement was in the past, but the action still continues.....
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19 Jul 2007, 19:44
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01 Sep 2007, 00:54
A 1972 agreement between Canada and the United States reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities had been allowed to dump into the Great Lakes.

reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities had been allowed to dump

reduced the phosphate amount that municipalities had been dumping

reduces the phosphate amount municipalities have been allowed to dump

reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities are allowed to dump

reduces the amount of phosphates allowed for dumping by municipalities

I disagree with the OA...It says A. I think it should be D as D makes sense and is the right tense
That doesn't make any sense. They signed the agreement in 1972. The agreement took effect that day. If you choose A, basically you are saying the agreement was effectively enacted before it was signed..am I correct that the wrong tense is used in A?
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03 Sep 2007, 14:43
yes you are mistaken since the agreement reduced the amount they were allowed to dump BEFORE the agreement and did not reduce the amount they are NOW allowed to dump
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05 Sep 2007, 21:37
Yes it is A.
But I have seen other forums where D is marked as OA
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18 Sep 2007, 07:54
I choose A

I can see why it might be D.

"are allowed to dump" is the present progressive" which can be an action arranged for the future
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25 Oct 2007, 15:38
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reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities are allowed to dump

Amount of Phosphates is Singular or Plural??
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28 Nov 2007, 18:28
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A 1972 agreement between Canada and the United States reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities had been allowed to dump into the Great Lakes.

(A) reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities had been allowed to dump
(B) reduced the phosphate amount that municipalities had been dumping
(C) reduces the phosphate amount municipalities have been allowed to dump
(D) reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities are allowed to dump
(E) reduces the amount of phosphates allowed for dumping by municipalities

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28 Nov 2007, 19:49
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Amardeep Sharma wrote:
A 1972 agreement between Canada and the United States reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities had been allowed to dump into the Great Lakes.

(A) reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities had been allowed to dump
(B) reduced the phosphate amount that municipalities had been dumping
(C) reduces the phosphate amount municipalities have been allowed to dump
(D) reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities are allowed to dump
(E) reduces the amount of phosphates allowed for dumping by municipalities

Amar

I think its A.
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28 Nov 2007, 20:39
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Amardeep Sharma wrote:
A 1972 agreement between Canada and the United States reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities had been allowed to dump into the Great Lakes.

(A) reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities had been allowed to dump
(B) reduced the phosphate amount that municipalities had been dumping
(C) reduces the phosphate amount municipalities have been allowed to dump
(D) reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities are allowed to dump
(E) reduces the amount of phosphates allowed for dumping by municipalities

Amar

Will take a chance and go for 'D'
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28 Nov 2007, 20:50
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Amardeep Sharma wrote:
A 1972 agreement between Canada and the United States reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities had been allowed to dump into the Great Lakes.

(A) reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities had been allowed to dump
(B) reduced the phosphate amount that municipalities had been dumping
(C) reduces the phosphate amount municipalities have been allowed to dump
(D) reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities are allowed to dump
(E) reduces the amount of phosphates allowed for dumping by municipalities

Amar

Yes, the answer is A. After a long thought I could understand this.. Initially I went for D but then a little more thought and some reading of tenses again led me to A..
The agreement happened in the past hence 'reduced' should be there..
Now the agreement reduced something that was there earlier.. i.e the amount of phospates dumped in lake.. Hence this was allowed earlier only (Earlier event ) .. The agreement reduced this limit .. (later event)

Hence A..
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29 Nov 2007, 17:44
Amardeep Sharma wrote:
Beyond700 wrote:
Amardeep Sharma wrote:
A 1972 agreement between Canada and the United States reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities had been allowed to dump into the Great Lakes.

(A) reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities had been allowed to dump
(B) reduced the phosphate amount that municipalities had been dumping
(C) reduces the phosphate amount municipalities have been allowed to dump
(D) reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities are allowed to dump
(E) reduces the amount of phosphates allowed for dumping by municipalities

OA is D, can you explain why it is

Amar

Amar

Will take a chance and go for 'D'

An agreement holds good for the future.. In otherwords, we are not talking about an event, where sequence of events determine the tense usage but an agreement or signed concord on the paper..
Dumping is happening even now and will happen in the future, but the amount is reduced.
I fail to see any grammatical issues in 'A' & 'D' .It is more on depiction.
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30 Nov 2007, 11:39
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D. The reduction holds today and will continue to hold in future. therefore, i'd go with the "are allowed to dump" over "had been/have been"
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30 Nov 2007, 18:39
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 5:28 pm Post subject: phosphate

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A 1972 agreement between Canada and the United States reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities had been allowed to dump into the Great Lakes.

(A) reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities had been allowed to dump CORRECT
(B) reduced the phosphate amount that municipalities had been dumping
(C) reduces the phosphate amount municipalities have been allowed to dump
(D) reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities are allowed to dump
(E) reduces the amount of phosphates allowed for dumping by municipalities

The agreement happened in 1972 which "reduced" the amount of phosphates.....the dumping happened before the agreement, so it should be "had".
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07 Jan 2008, 16:33
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abhishakes2001 wrote:
D. The reduction holds today and will continue to hold in future. therefore, i'd go with the "are allowed to dump" over "had been/have been"

well how do you know that it holds today?
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22 Feb 2008, 21:28
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I found a solution sheet where the ans is A. Any explanations?
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22 Feb 2008, 23:30
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1972 agreement – requires in simple past
And the effects of the past into simple present tense

(A) reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities had been allowed to dump [“had been allowed” cannot represent present – eliminate it]

(B) reduced the phosphate amount that municipalities had been dumping [ “had been dumping” cannot refer present tense – eliminate it]

(C) reduces the phosphate amount municipalities have been allowed to dump [1972 time frame needs to be in simple past – eliminate it]

(D) reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities are allowed to dump [Hold it]

(E) reduces the amount of phosphates allowed for dumping by municipalities [1972 time frame needs to be in simple past – eliminate it]

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27 Feb 2008, 22:06
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Everytime I get to this question, I do pick D and the answer shows A,

Is A the correct answer?, I think A shows the agreement reduced the amount of phospates that the muncipalities had been allowed until that time(1972)

Thus I think, A is more appropriate
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Updated on: 24 Jun 2008, 22:14
Deleted ... as it was a useless post by me.
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Originally posted by huntgmat on 02 Mar 2008, 08:12.
Last edited by huntgmat on 24 Jun 2008, 22:14, edited 1 time in total.
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