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A 1972 agreement between Canada and the United States reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities had been allowed to dump into the Great Lakes.

(A) reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities had been allowed to dump
(B) reduced the phosphate amount that municipalities had been dumping
(C) reduces the phosphate amount municipalities have been allowed to dump
(D) reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities are allowed to dump
(E) reduces the amount of phosphates allowed for dumping by municipalities

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The answer from OG 11 is D and the explanation is:

The past tense reduced is used to describe a past action, and the present tense are allowed is used to describe the present situation since the dumping continues into the present.

However, the answer from SC 1000 is A. I also think why not A. Can anyone explain why we don't use past perfect tense here?
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A 1972 agreement between Canada and the United States reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities had been allowed to dump into the Great Lakes.

A. reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities had been allowed to dump
B. reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities had been dumping
C. reduces the amount of phosphates that municipalities have been allowed to dump
D. reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities are allowed to dump
E. reduces the amount of phosphates allowed for dumping by municipalities



A

This SC is testing for past perfect tense.
Anaction that happened in the past (say X) and something which happened before X (say Y)

here :reduced - X
had been allowed to dump - Y

had + past participle
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The answer from OG 11 is D and the explanation is:

The past tense reduced is used to describe a past action, and the present tense are allowed is used to describe the present situation since the dumping continues into the present.

However, the answer from SC 1000 is A. I also think why not A. Can anyone explain why we don't use past perfect tense here?


Past perfect tense shows an action that continued from a point in the past and ends at a later point in the past. There is no indication that the dumping ended. It was just reduced. Therefore, the OG explanation is correct. (How can u trust the SC1000 answer over the OG one!?!)
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The ansewer id D, 'are' indicates that its an ongoing activity!!!
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It can't be A because the activity is still going on...

A indicates that an acitivity happened for a some period of time in the past.



D is the right answer..
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2. A 1972 agreement between Canada and the United States reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities had been allowed to dump into the Great Lakes.
(A) reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities had been allowed to dump
(B) reduced the phosphate amount that municipalities had been dumping
(C) reduces the phosphate amount municipalities have been allowed to dump
(D) reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities are allowed to dump
(E) reduces the amount of phosphates allowed for dumping by municipalities
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D.
treaty took place in past and the the results of the treaty still hold so D seems to be alright.
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actually it all happened in the past. so 'A' is correct as the treaty reduced----the X------- had been allowed(past perfect) to dump.
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Shouldn't the answer be D. The agreement was in the past, but the action still continues.....
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A 1972 agreement between Canada and the United States reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities had been allowed to dump into the Great Lakes.

reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities had been allowed to dump

reduced the phosphate amount that municipalities had been dumping

reduces the phosphate amount municipalities have been allowed to dump

reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities are allowed to dump

reduces the amount of phosphates allowed for dumping by municipalities



I disagree with the OA...It says A. I think it should be D as D makes sense and is the right tense
That doesn't make any sense. They signed the agreement in 1972. The agreement took effect that day. If you choose A, basically you are saying the agreement was effectively enacted before it was signed..am I correct that the wrong tense is used in A?
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yes you are mistaken since the agreement reduced the amount they were allowed to dump BEFORE the agreement and did not reduce the amount they are NOW allowed to dump
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Yes it is A.
But I have seen other forums where D is marked as OA
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I choose A

I can see why it might be D.

"are allowed to dump" is the present progressive" which can be an action arranged for the future
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reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities are allowed to dump


Amount of Phosphates is Singular or Plural??
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A 1972 agreement between Canada and the United States reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities had been allowed to dump into the Great Lakes.

(A) reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities had been allowed to dump
(B) reduced the phosphate amount that municipalities had been dumping
(C) reduces the phosphate amount municipalities have been allowed to dump
(D) reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities are allowed to dump
(E) reduces the amount of phosphates allowed for dumping by municipalities

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Amardeep Sharma wrote:
A 1972 agreement between Canada and the United States reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities had been allowed to dump into the Great Lakes.

(A) reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities had been allowed to dump
(B) reduced the phosphate amount that municipalities had been dumping
(C) reduces the phosphate amount municipalities have been allowed to dump
(D) reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities are allowed to dump
(E) reduces the amount of phosphates allowed for dumping by municipalities

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I think its A.
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Amardeep Sharma wrote:
A 1972 agreement between Canada and the United States reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities had been allowed to dump into the Great Lakes.

(A) reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities had been allowed to dump
(B) reduced the phosphate amount that municipalities had been dumping
(C) reduces the phosphate amount municipalities have been allowed to dump
(D) reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities are allowed to dump
(E) reduces the amount of phosphates allowed for dumping by municipalities

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Will take a chance and go for 'D'
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Amardeep Sharma wrote:
A 1972 agreement between Canada and the United States reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities had been allowed to dump into the Great Lakes.

(A) reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities had been allowed to dump
(B) reduced the phosphate amount that municipalities had been dumping
(C) reduces the phosphate amount municipalities have been allowed to dump
(D) reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities are allowed to dump
(E) reduces the amount of phosphates allowed for dumping by municipalities

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Yes, the answer is A. After a long thought I could understand this.. Initially I went for D but then a little more thought and some reading of tenses again led me to A..
The agreement happened in the past hence 'reduced' should be there..
Now the agreement reduced something that was there earlier.. i.e the amount of phospates dumped in lake.. Hence this was allowed earlier only (Earlier event ) .. The agreement reduced this limit .. (later event)

Hence A..
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Amardeep Sharma wrote:
A 1972 agreement between Canada and the United States reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities had been allowed to dump into the Great Lakes.

(A) reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities had been allowed to dump
(B) reduced the phosphate amount that municipalities had been dumping
(C) reduces the phosphate amount municipalities have been allowed to dump
(D) reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities are allowed to dump
(E) reduces the amount of phosphates allowed for dumping by municipalities

OA is D, can you explain why it is

Amar

Amar


Will take a chance and go for 'D'
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