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A 1972 agreement between Canada and the United States reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities had been allowed to dump into the Great Lakes.

(A) reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities had been allowed to dump
(B) reduced the phosphate amount that municipalities had been dumping
(C) reduces the phosphate amount municipalities have been allowed to dump
(D) reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities are allowed to dump
(E) reduces the amount of phosphates allowed for dumping by municipalities

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New post 13 Oct 2008, 11:09
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You can find the Official Explanation in OG11 Qno 62. (Pg 689)

It says: D. Correct. The past tense reduced is correctly used in this sentence to describe a past action, and the present tense are allowed is used to describe the present situation.

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I was doing several of the SC_1000 problems. I got to about 200, then decided to quit after reading that SC problems should not be done without an explanation to go along with it. I went back to studying questions from the OG to review. Turns out, a lot of the problems in the SC_1000 file overlap with the OG.

I was getting pissed off at myself because I was missing so many questions on the SC_1000. When I went back to the OG, I started getting about 85-90% right.

I realized that many of the SC_1000 questions are wrong!!! NO wonder.

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2. A 1972 agreement between Canada and the United States reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities had been allowed to dump into the Great Lakes.
(A) reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities had been allowed to dump
(B) reduced the phosphate amount that municipalities had been dumping
(C) reduces the phosphate amount municipalities have been allowed to dump
(D) reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities are allowed to dump
(E) reduces the amount of phosphates allowed for dumping by municipalities

SC_1000 answer: A
OA: D

Just wanted to let you know that studying WITH an explanation is MORE important than just practicing, ESPECIALLY if the answers are WRONG!!!
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I was doing several of the SC_1000 problems. I got to about 200, then decided to quit after reading that SC problems should not be done without an explanation to go along with it. I went back to studying questions from the OG to review. Turns out, a lot of the problems in the SC_1000 file overlap with the OG.

I was getting pissed off at myself because I was missing so many questions on the SC_1000. When I went back to the OG, I started getting about 85-90% right.

I realized that many of the SC_1000 questions are wrong!!! NO wonder.

Example:
2. A 1972 agreement between Canada and the United States reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities had been allowed to dump into the Great Lakes.
(A) reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities had been allowed to dump
(B) reduced the phosphate amount that municipalities had been dumping
(C) reduces the phosphate amount municipalities have been allowed to dump
(D) reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities are allowed to dump
(E) reduces the amount of phosphates allowed for dumping by municipalities

SC_1000 answer: A
OA: D

Just wanted to let you know that studying WITH an explanation is MORE important than just practicing, ESPECIALLY if the answers are WRONG!!!


Significant no of questions in SC 1000 have incorrect answers or debatable answers. Don't trust 100% SC-1000 answers.
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Nach0 wrote:
I was doing several of the SC_1000 problems. I got to about 200, then decided to quit after reading that SC problems should not be done without an explanation to go along with it. I went back to studying questions from the OG to review. Turns out, a lot of the problems in the SC_1000 file overlap with the OG.

I was getting pissed off at myself because I was missing so many questions on the SC_1000. When I went back to the OG, I started getting about 85-90% right.

I realized that many of the SC_1000 questions are wrong!!! NO wonder.

Example:
2. A 1972 agreement between Canada and the United States reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities had been allowed to dump into the Great Lakes.
(A) reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities had been allowed to dump
(B) reduced the phosphate amount that municipalities had been dumping
(C) reduces the phosphate amount municipalities have been allowed to dump
(D) reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities are allowed to dump
(E) reduces the amount of phosphates allowed for dumping by municipalities

SC_1000 answer: A
OA: D

Just wanted to let you know that studying WITH an explanation is MORE important than just practicing, ESPECIALLY if the answers are WRONG!!!


Signicant no of questions in SC 1000 hava incorrect answer or debatable answers. Don't trust 100% SC-1000 answers.


Suresh,
What about 1000 RC and 1000 CR?? Are they good, I am planning to use them.
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New post 01 Jun 2009, 21:44
I am sure, many of us have seen this question and can report the OA. However I am more interested in brainstorming about this question. First, I want to understand OE.

A 1972 agreement between Canada and the United States reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities had been allowed to dump into the Great Lakes.
(A) reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities had been allowed to dump
(B) reduced the phosphate amount that municipalities had been dumping
(C) reduces the phosphate amount municipalities have been allowed to dump
(D) reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities are allowed to dump
(E) reduces the amount of phosphates allowed for dumping by municipalities

Second, I want to analyze if we have another option-
(F) reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities were allowed to dump

Will this would be correct?

More detailed responses are appreciated.
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New post 01 Jun 2009, 22:41
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I am sure, many of us have seen this question and can report the OA. However I am more interested in brainstorming about this question. First, I want to understand OE.

A 1972 agreement between Canada and the United States reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities had been allowed to dump into the Great Lakes.
(A) reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities had been allowed to dump
(B) reduced the phosphate amount that municipalities had been dumping
(C) reduces the phosphate amount municipalities have been allowed to dump
(D) reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities are allowed to dump
(E) reduces the amount of phosphates allowed for dumping by municipalities

Second, I want to analyze if we have another option-
(F) reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities were allowed to dump

Will this would be correct?

More detailed responses are appreciated.


I completely agree with you and I would have selected F, had it been there. However, thru POE you can reach to answer D and thats what I did when I attempted this. I too dint like the construction but still this was best among the lot.
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marshpa wrote:
I am sure, many of us have seen this question and can report the OA. However I am more interested in brainstorming about this question. First, I want to understand OE.

A 1972 agreement between Canada and the United States reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities had been allowed to dump into the Great Lakes.
(A) reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities had been allowed to dump
(B) reduced the phosphate amount that municipalities had been dumping
(C) reduces the phosphate amount municipalities have been allowed to dump
(D) reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities are allowed to dump
(E) reduces the amount of phosphates allowed for dumping by municipalities

Second, I want to analyze if we have another option-
(F) reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities were allowed to dump

Will this would be correct?

More detailed responses are appreciated.


I completely agree with you and I would have selected F, had it been there. However, thru POE you can reach to answer D and thats what I did when I attempted this. I too dint like the construction but still this was best among the lot.

Then Can you please tell then why not A? Reason A almost says what F has to offer.
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I thought A was the original answer to the question, and I don't see what is wrong with it. In the future, please underline the sentence. thanks
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marshpa wrote:
hemantsood wrote:
marshpa wrote:
I am sure, many of us have seen this question and can report the OA. However I am more interested in brainstorming about this question. First, I want to understand OE.

A 1972 agreement between Canada and the United States reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities had been allowed to dump into the Great Lakes.
(A) reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities had been allowed to dump
(B) reduced the phosphate amount that municipalities had been dumping
(C) reduces the phosphate amount municipalities have been allowed to dump
(D) reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities are allowed to dump
(E) reduces the amount of phosphates allowed for dumping by municipalities

Second, I want to analyze if we have another option-
(F) reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities were allowed to dump

Will this would be correct?

More detailed responses are appreciated.


I completely agree with you and I would have selected F, had it been there. However, thru POE you can reach to answer D and thats what I did when I attempted this. I too dint like the construction but still this was best among the lot.

Then Can you please tell then why not A? Reason A almost says what F has to offer.


Because A says that there was point in time when dumping was allowed and it stopped at later point of time that also exists in past. However, D says that dumping is still continue.

Originally posted by rs2010 on 02 Jun 2009, 16:05.
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Because A says that there was point in time when dumping was allowed and it stopped at later point of time that also exist in time. However, D says that dumping is still continue.


First of all, what you're saying doesn't make any sense.
Second of all, even if you what you said does make sense, I disagree.
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want reduced

want had been to show that we're reducing the amount that 'HAD BEEN' allowed

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Because A says that there was point in time when dumping was allowed and it stopped at later point of time that also exists in past. However, D says that dumping is still continue.


I think had been is required. The sentence here demands past perfect tense.

Had been allowed: This says the dumping was allowed earlier in lakes. This is earlier in time.
Reduced: This says dumping reduced after the agreement, which is later in time.

Hence A seem to be the correct choice.
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New post 04 Jun 2009, 01:16
D. It's a past progressive. The agreement in XXXX year regulated the amount that was allowed for dumping since year XXXX to present. Therefore "are" is necessary.

Now to choice F. "were" isn't a good choice because of the tense. its past perfect. but dumping goes on even today.

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Hi,

2. A 1972 agreement between Canada and the United States reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities had been allowed to dump into the Great Lakes.
(A) reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities had been allowed to dump
(B) reduced the phosphate amount that municipalities had been dumping
(C) reduces the phosphate amount municipalities have been allowed to dump
(D) reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities are allowed to dump
(E) reduces the amount of phosphates allowed for dumping by municipalities

the answer to this ques in OG is D whereas the 1000 SC answer key says it is A.

Do I have the incorrect key with me... Please someone post the correct answer key.
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New post 10 Jul 2009, 07:28
The correct answer is D..Even my 1000SC doc says that the answer is (A)..You can refer to the 1000SC Blogspot as well..
http://thousandsc.blogspot.com/2006/04/qn2.html
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then there might be other questions whose answers are incorrect. how do i find out??? :(
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Signicant no of questions in SC 1000 hava incorrect answer or debatable answers. Don't trust 100% SC-1000 answers.


Suresh,
What about 1000 RC and 1000 CR?? Are they good, I am planning to use them.


I haven't tried those.


1000 RC and 1000 CR are reliable. I am not an authorizing entity, but have covered all 3 of them. 1000 CR is 90% LSAT, which is quite accurate and same is true about RC.
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New post 18 Jul 2009, 13:47
Guys, where can i get the 1000 RC and 1000 CR problem sets?
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Guys, where can i get the 1000 RC and 1000 CR problem sets?

Try scribd and esnips. They are easy to locate.
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Guys, where can i get the 1000 RC and 1000 CR problem sets?

Try scribd and esnips. They are easy to locate.


Will find here also:
720-q42-v47-how-to-improve-verbal-tips-50635.html
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