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33. A historian attempting to predict in the 1870's which nation would take over world leadership from the British probably would have guessed Bismarck's Prussia and been quite wrong.

(A) have guessed Bismarck's Prussia and been
(B) have guessed that it would have been Bismarck's Prussia and he would be
(C) have guessed Bismarck's Prussia and would be
(D) guess Bismarck's Prussia and be
(E) guess that it would be Bismarck's Prussia and would have been
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New post 11 Mar 2008, 08:48
As we are talking about past so guessed is the correct form of verb to be used in correct sentence.
So last 2 options are gone (Note the 3:2 split).

Now in these 3 options
A) have guessed Bismarck's Prussia and been
Falters at the end as "been quite wrong" does not sound that good.

(B) have guessed that it would have been Bismarck's Prussia and he would be
Seems OK, But Wordy

(C) have guessed Bismarck's Prussia and would be
Looks good and short as well.

So I will go with C.

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New post 11 Mar 2008, 11:39
We are talking about past.... isn't it ?
One part of the sentence is correctly in past but the next past is in future "would be" !!!
Some thing is wrong. It means the person is not wrong till today , but will be in near future.

:wall

I dont go for B,C and E.

Left with A and D.

D tense error - "guess".

Answer A.
But something with "been" is generally what I hate to select.

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33. A historian attempting to predict in the 1870's which nation would take over world leadership from the British probably would have guessed Bismarck's Prussia and been quite wrong.

(A) have guessed Bismarck's Prussia and been
(B) have guessed that it would have been Bismarck's Prussia and he would be
(C) have guessed Bismarck's Prussia and would be
(D) guess Bismarck's Prussia and be
(E) guess that it would be Bismarck's Prussia and would have been


Zoltan, these are brutal...:)
A & C are my picks. Can't decide..... What's the OA?

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Can anyone break this one down? I'm still stumped.

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A historian attempting to predict in the 1870's which nation would take over world leadership from the British probably would have guessed Bismarck's Prussia and would have been quite wrong.

We know that a historian would fail to predict correctly if he ever tries. We are also given the exact time the actions took place. This is a conditional sentence (untrue condition in the past) and requires would + have + infinitive without to in order to state this condition.

In a simplified form:
If he had tried to predict he would have guessed... and he would have been wrong. It is very much ok to avoid the second "would have", which is understood from the context.

Hope, this clarifies some

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A historian attempting to predict in the 1870's which nation would take over world leadership from the British probably would have guessed Bismarck's Prussia and been quite wrong.

(A) have guessed Bismarck's Prussia and been
(B) have guessed that it would have been Bismarck's Prussia and he would be
(C) have guessed Bismarck's Prussia and would be
(D) guess Bismarck's Prussia and be
(E) guess that it would be Bismarck's Prussia and would have been
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A historian attempting to predict in the 1870's which nation would take over world leadership from the British probably would have guessed Bismarck's Prussia and been quite wrong.

(A) have guessed Bismarck's Prussia and been
(B) have guessed that it would have been Bismarck's Prussia and he would be
(C) have guessed Bismarck's Prussia and would be
(D) guess Bismarck's Prussia and be
(E) guess that it would be Bismarck's Prussia and would have been


For me, I would choose A for this one.
For parallelism, would have guessed ...and (would have) been wrong. The second would have can be optional. Only A has the correct parallel structure.

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Hi mates,

IMO A

A because of //ism: A historian would have guessed Prussian and (would have) been quite wrong

B out: doesn't follow //ism: "he would be"
C out: same reason as in B
D and E out: perfect sense is required

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New post 07 Feb 2009, 09:21
I'll go with C

'have been' is not required because the action is already completed.

"He would have guessed and would be wrong...." is OK I think

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New post 07 Feb 2009, 13:03
I will go with D.

A historian trying to preduct.....which nation would take over.....requires simple past tense and hence option D.

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OA is A.
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Do you have OE?

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Do you have OE?

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A historian attempting to predict in the 1870's which nation would take over world leadership from the British probably would have guessed Bismarck's Prussia and been quite wrong.

(A) have guessed Bismarck's Prussia and been
(B) have guessed that it would have been Bismarck's Prussia and he would be
(C) have guessed Bismarck's Prussia and would be
(D) guess Bismarck's Prussia and be
(E) guess that it would be Bismarck's Prussia and would have been


which parts are parallel here?
A historian attempting to predict in the 1870's which nation would take over world leadership from the British probably would have guessed Bismarck's Prussia and been quite wrong.
OR
A historian attempting to predict in the 1870's which nation would take over world leadership from the British probably would have guessed Bismarck's Prussia and would be quite wrong.
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A historian attempting to predict in the 1870's which nation would take over world leadership from the British probably would have guessed Bismarck's Prussia and been quite wrong.

(A) have guessed Bismarck's Prussia and been
(B) have guessed that it would have been Bismarck's Prussia and he would be
(C) have guessed Bismarck's Prussia and would be
(D) guess Bismarck's Prussia and be
(E) guess that it would be Bismarck's Prussia and would have been

Attempting ... been is required.

E - it is redundant.
So A

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Sorry, perhaps I am thinking about it the wrong way but aren't any verb constructions of "have guessed" a present perfect tense, therefore suggesting that it continues in the present?

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Why is present perfect needed here? Is it because it is hypothetical?

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can someone provide a more detailed explanation of why A is correct?

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I thought it was C, but even after searching for OE I could not understand legibly why A is preferable over C, besides the point of parallelism!
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