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33. A historian attempting to predict in the 1870's which nation would take over world leadership from the British probably would have guessed Bismarck's Prussia and been quite wrong.

(A) have guessed Bismarck's Prussia and been
(B) have guessed that it would have been Bismarck's Prussia and he would be
(C) have guessed Bismarck's Prussia and would be
(D) guess Bismarck's Prussia and be
(E) guess that it would be Bismarck's Prussia and would have been
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A historian attempting to predict in the 1870's which nation would take over world leadership from the British probably would have guessed Bismarck's Prussia and would have been quite wrong.

We know that a historian would fail to predict correctly if he ever tries. We are also given the exact time the actions took place. This is a conditional sentence (untrue condition in the past) and requires would + have + infinitive without to in order to state this condition.

In a simplified form:
If he had tried to predict he would have guessed... and he would have been wrong. It is very much ok to avoid the second "would have", which is understood from the context.

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A historian attempting to predict in the 1870's which nation would take over world leadership from the British probably would have guessed Bismarck's Prussia and been quite wrong.

(A) have guessed Bismarck's Prussia and been
Is correct as written as the 'would' applies to both - would have guessed and would have been wrong.
Why we require present perfect here?he made a prediction and was wrong about it; he still is wrong..recall from mgmat SC that when the effect continues, the present perfect is called for.
(B) have guessed that it would have been Bismarck's Prussia and he would be
unnecessarily wordy; what does 'it' refer to here; 'been wrong' is required here for the sake of parallelism and tense
(C) have guessed Bismarck's Prussia and would be
'and would be' is wrong as 'would have been' is required for parallelism and tense reasons
(D) guess Bismarck's Prussia and be
we are talking about 1870s. had it been about now, we could have used something similar to 'I will guess x and be wrong'
(E) guess that it would be Bismarck's Prussia and would have been
similar reasoning as D. Also its wordy.

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A historian attempting to predict in the 1870's which nation would take over world leadership from the British probably would have guessed Bismarck's Prussia and been quite wrong.

(A) have guessed Bismarck's Prussia and (would)been ->no need to specify would again.
(B) have guessed that it would have been Bismarck's Prussia and he would be ->tense order should be reversed
(C) have guessed Bismarck's Prussia and would be
->needs would have been->this action is some where after the past(i.e. in the future of the past) but before the present.
(D) guess Bismarck's Prussia and be
(E) guess that it would be Bismarck's Prussia and would have been

IMO 'A'
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33. A historian attempting to predict in the 1870's which nation would take over world leadership from the British probably would have guessed Bismarck's Prussia and been quite wrong.

(A) have guessed Bismarck's Prussia and been
(B) have guessed that it would have been Bismarck's Prussia and he would be
(C) have guessed Bismarck's Prussia and would be
(D) guess Bismarck's Prussia and be
(E) guess that it would be Bismarck's Prussia and would have been

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11 Mar 2008, 08:48
As we are talking about past so guessed is the correct form of verb to be used in correct sentence.
So last 2 options are gone (Note the 3:2 split).

Now in these 3 options
A) have guessed Bismarck's Prussia and been
Falters at the end as "been quite wrong" does not sound that good.

(B) have guessed that it would have been Bismarck's Prussia and he would be
Seems OK, But Wordy

(C) have guessed Bismarck's Prussia and would be
Looks good and short as well.

So I will go with C.

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11 Mar 2008, 11:39
We are talking about past.... isn't it ?
One part of the sentence is correctly in past but the next past is in future "would be" !!!
Some thing is wrong. It means the person is not wrong till today , but will be in near future.

I dont go for B,C and E.

Left with A and D.

D tense error - "guess".

But something with "been" is generally what I hate to select.

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11 Mar 2008, 12:17
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33. A historian attempting to predict in the 1870's which nation would take over world leadership from the British probably would have guessed Bismarck's Prussia and been quite wrong.

(A) have guessed Bismarck's Prussia and been
(B) have guessed that it would have been Bismarck's Prussia and he would be
(C) have guessed Bismarck's Prussia and would be
(D) guess Bismarck's Prussia and be
(E) guess that it would be Bismarck's Prussia and would have been

Zoltan, these are brutal...
A & C are my picks. Can't decide..... What's the OA?

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12 Mar 2008, 23:04
Can anyone break this one down? I'm still stumped.

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A historian attempting to predict in the 1870's which nation would take over world leadership from the British probably would have guessed Bismarck's Prussia and been quite wrong.

(A) have guessed Bismarck's Prussia and been
(B) have guessed that it would have been Bismarck's Prussia and he would be
(C) have guessed Bismarck's Prussia and would be
(D) guess Bismarck's Prussia and be
(E) guess that it would be Bismarck's Prussia and would have been
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06 Feb 2009, 21:46
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A historian attempting to predict in the 1870's which nation would take over world leadership from the British probably would have guessed Bismarck's Prussia and been quite wrong.

(A) have guessed Bismarck's Prussia and been
(B) have guessed that it would have been Bismarck's Prussia and he would be
(C) have guessed Bismarck's Prussia and would be
(D) guess Bismarck's Prussia and be
(E) guess that it would be Bismarck's Prussia and would have been

For me, I would choose A for this one.
For parallelism, would have guessed ...and (would have) been wrong. The second would have can be optional. Only A has the correct parallel structure.

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07 Feb 2009, 04:32
Hi mates,

IMO A

A because of //ism: A historian would have guessed Prussian and (would have) been quite wrong

B out: doesn't follow //ism: "he would be"
C out: same reason as in B
D and E out: perfect sense is required

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07 Feb 2009, 09:21
I'll go with C

'have been' is not required because the action is already completed.

"He would have guessed and would be wrong...." is OK I think

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07 Feb 2009, 13:03
I will go with D.

A historian trying to preduct.....which nation would take over.....requires simple past tense and hence option D.

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Do you have OE?

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Do you have OE?

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A historian attempting to predict in the 1870's which nation would take over world leadership from the British probably would have guessed Bismarck's Prussia and been quite wrong.

(A) have guessed Bismarck's Prussia and been
(B) have guessed that it would have been Bismarck's Prussia and he would be
(C) have guessed Bismarck's Prussia and would be
(D) guess Bismarck's Prussia and be
(E) guess that it would be Bismarck's Prussia and would have been

which parts are parallel here?
A historian attempting to predict in the 1870's which nation would take over world leadership from the British probably would have guessed Bismarck's Prussia and been quite wrong.
OR
A historian attempting to predict in the 1870's which nation would take over world leadership from the British probably would have guessed Bismarck's Prussia and would be quite wrong.
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A historian attempting to predict in the 1870's which nation would take over world leadership from the British probably would have guessed Bismarck's Prussia and been quite wrong.

(A) have guessed Bismarck's Prussia and been
(B) have guessed that it would have been Bismarck's Prussia and he would be
(C) have guessed Bismarck's Prussia and would be
(D) guess Bismarck's Prussia and be
(E) guess that it would be Bismarck's Prussia and would have been

Attempting ... been is required.

E - it is redundant.
So A

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Sorry, perhaps I am thinking about it the wrong way but aren't any verb constructions of "have guessed" a present perfect tense, therefore suggesting that it continues in the present?

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