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A recent review of pay scales indicates that CEOs now earn an average of 419 times more pay than blue-collar workers, compared to a ratio of 42 times in 1990.

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According to a recent review, CEOs now earn an average of 419 times more pay than blue-collar workers. The ratio of the same was 42:1 in 1990.

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Now let’s look at error of this sentence:
1. Usage of “a ratio of” is incorrect here. It’s ambiguous what does it refer to. Also, it breaks the parallelism between “419 times” and “42 times”. Only the expression “42 times” would have been enough to present the correct comparison.

PoE:

a. that CEOs now earn an average of 419 times more pay than blue-collar workers, compared to a ratio of 42 times: Incorrect for the reason stated above.

b. that, on average, CEOs now earn 419 times the pay of blue-collar workers, a ratio that compares to 42 times: Incorrect. This choice suggests the ratio compares to 42 times, that is in 42 different times in 1990. This is illogical comparison.

c. that, on average, CEOs now earn 419 times the pay of blue-collar workers, as compared to 42 times their pay, the ratio: Correct. The parallelism is correctly maintained. “a ratio” correctly modifies “ “42 times their pay”.

d. CEOs who now earn on average 419 times more pay than blue-collar workers, as compared to 42 times their pay, the ratio: Incorrect. Per this choice, recent reviews indicate “CEOs”.

e. CEOs now earning an average of 419 times the pay of blue-collar workers, compared to the ratio of 42 times: Incorrect.
1. Repeats the same error as in choice A.
2. Repeats the same error as in choice D.

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a. that CEO's now earn an average of 419 times more pay than blue-collar workers, compared to a ratio of 42 times
b. that, on average, CEO's now earn 419 times the pay of blue-collar workers, a ratio that compares to 42 times.
c. that, on average, CEO's now earn 419 times the pay of blue-collar workers, as compared to 42 times their pay, the ratio
d. CEo's who now earn on average 419 time more pay than blue-collar workers, as compared to 42 times their pay, the ratio
e. CEO's now earning an average of 419 times the pay of blue-collar workers, compared to the ratio of 42 times

A,D Out as we don't use "Times" and "more than (comparison signals) " simultaneously .

Moreover, B is awkward as colored.

E changes the tense from simple to progressive .

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a. that CEO's now earn an average of 419 times more pay than blue-collar workers, compared to a ratio of 42 times
b. that, on average, CEO's now earn 419 times the pay of blue-collar workers, a ratio that compares to 42 times.
c. that, on average, CEO's now earn 419 times the pay of blue-collar workers, as compared to 42 times their pay, the ratio
d. CEo's who now earn on average 419 time more pay than blue-collar workers, as compared to 42 times their pay, the ratio
e. CEO's now earning an average of 419 times the pay of blue-collar workers, compared to the ratio of 42 times

A,D Out as we don't use "Times" and "more than (comparison signals) " simultaneously .

Moreover, B is awkward as colored.

E changes the tense from simple to progressive .

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Hai, Wanted to clarify the same. Can we eliminate A and D for the reasons stated here? "Times" and "more than" both are used.

I wanted to clarify bcz i made a 2/3 split using this approach. Thanks in advance.
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targetgmatchotu wrote:
a. that CEO's now earn an average of 419 times more pay than blue-collar workers, compared to a ratio of 42 times
b. that, on average, CEO's now earn 419 times the pay of blue-collar workers, a ratio that compares to 42 times.
c. that, on average, CEO's now earn 419 times the pay of blue-collar workers, as compared to 42 times their pay, the ratio
d. CEo's who now earn on average 419 time more pay than blue-collar workers, as compared to 42 times their pay, the ratio
e. CEO's now earning an average of 419 times the pay of blue-collar workers, compared to the ratio of 42 times

A,D Out as we don't use "Times" and "more than (comparison signals) " simultaneously .

Moreover, B is awkward as colored.

E changes the tense from simple to progressive .

Well that will help !!!


Hai, Wanted to clarify the same. Can we eliminate A and D for the reasons stated here? "Times" and "more than" both are used.

I wanted to clarify bcz i made a 2/3 split using this approach. Thanks in advance.


Surely, the split works .However, I won't recommend the strategy of splits because sometimes the right answer as per individual's choice isn't the correct answer.

Moreover, I would like to recommend the E-gmat strategy of understanding the meaning first.However, I am not the endorser of the same.

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I like A... but maybe that's because I'm thinking in to this too much.

I narrowed it down to A. and B., but there is a fundamental difference between "Ceos earning an Average of 419 times" and "on average, a CEO earns 419 times" ... which in essence is saying that "the average CEO earns 419 times"....

B. and C. change the noun that "average" modifies and should therefore be eliminated due to a change in meaning..

but maybe I'm reading way too much into that.. I just finished a book on statistical fallacies and that was one of them lol.
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A. that CEO’s now earn an average of 419 times more pay than blue-collar workers, compared to a ratio of 42 times
B. that, on average, CEO’s now earn 419 times the pay of blue-collar workers, a ratio that compares to 42 times
C. that, on average, CEO’s now earn 419 times the pay of blue-collar workers, as compared to 42 times their pay, the ratio
D. CEO’s who now earn on average 419 times more pay than blue-collar workers, as compared to 42 times their pay, the ratio

passive 'CEO' is inappropriate here -- so A,B,C,D are out. C and D also have ambiguous pronoun 'their'

E. CEO’s now earning an average of 419 times the pay of blue-collar workers, compared to the ratio of 42 times
E is correct.


(E) does not make sense because the sentence leaves you hanging.

"A recent review of pay scales indicates CEOs now earning [X amount], compared to the ratio in 1980..." - this is not correct.

You could say "A recent review of pay scales indicates CEOs now earn [X amount].." - that's OK. But (E) uses "earning" instead of simply "earn" - so (E) is no good.

You can see the explanation for this question here: http://www.gmatpill.com/gmat-practice-t ... question/7



Can you please throw some light as to why C is correct and A is not? People keep saying parallelism but I don't seem to get it.
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A recent review of pay scales indicates that CEO's now earn an average of 419 times more pay than blue-collar workers, compared to a ratio of 42 times in 1980

that CEO's now earn an average of 419 times more pay than blue-collar workers, compared to a ratio of 42 times.
Three errors:
Meaning : CEO's earn what - an average of something or money - an average of 419 times more pay than blue-collar workers: nonsensical. {YES/NO}
Idiom : X times more pay than Y , should be X times of Y {YES/NO}
Modifier : blue-collar workers, compared to blah blah... compared is a ed-modifier modifying workers: wrong {YES/NO}

that, on average, CEO's now earn 419 times the pay of blue-collar workers, a ratio that compares to 42 times.
Meaning : a ratio that compares to 42 times; ratio 419:1 compares to 42:1 of 1980 .... compares what ? incomplete meaning. {YES/NO}

that, on average, CEO's now earn 419 times the pay of blue-collar workers, as compared to 42 times their pay, the ratio.
Modifier : the pay of blue-collar workers, as compared .... the pay of xx, as compared to workers pay compared is modifying the pay and this modification is acceptable thus here it is fine.
Absolute phrase : The ratio in 1980 someway modifies the proceeding modifier's object 42:1 in 1980.
Correct sentence.

CEO's who now earn on average of 419 times more pay than blue-collar workers, as compared to 42 times their pay, the ratio.
Meaning : A recent review of pay scales indicates NOUN CEO's : wrong
Meaning : CEO's who earn , limiting the scope of meaning to CEO's who earn earn blah blah... original meaning covers all CEO's in GENERAL. {YES/NO}
Meaning : who now earn on average of something or money - an average of 419 times more pay than blue-collar workers: nonsensical. {YES/NO}
Idiom : X times more pay than Y , should be X times of Y {YES/NO}
Modifier : than blue-collar workers, compared to blah blah... compared is a ed-modifier modifying workers: wrong {YES/NO}

CEO's now (modifier) earning an average of 419 times the pay of blue-collar workers, compared to the ratio of 42 times
Meaning : A recent review of pay scales indicates NOUN CEO's : wrong
Meaning : earning an average of something or money - an average of 419 times more pay than blue-collar workers: nonsensical. {YES/NO}
Idiom : X times more pay than Y , should be X times of Y {YES/NO}
Modifier: the pay ..., compared (OK) but comparison is not right 419 times the pay != the ratio of 42 times
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A recent review of pay scales indicates that CEO's now earn an average of 419 times more pay than blue-collar workers, compared to a ratio of 42 times in 1990.

a. that CEO's now earn an average of 419 times more pay than blue-collar workers, compared to a ratio of 42 times
b. that, on average, CEO's now earn 419 times the pay of blue-collar workers, a ratio that compares to 42 times.
c. that, on average, CEO's now earn 419 times the pay of blue-collar workers, as compared to 42 times their pay, the ratio
d. CEo's who now earn on average 419 time more pay than blue-collar workers, as compared to 42 times their pay, the ratio
e. CEO's now earning an average of 419 times the pay of blue-collar workers, compared to the ratio of 42 times


I agree choice C is best but
in C "as compared " is a elliptical clause which mofifies the preceding clause and refers to "CEO's" . This make no sense.

logicaly, "as compared to " modifies "419 times". but grammartially, "as compared to" can not modifiy "419 times. there is no pattern of this kind in english grammar
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Really good explanation by ron..

In short here it is:
"compared to a ratio of 42 times" - 'times' cannot be left alone - it has to be times of something..

Also after reading the ron's explanation I realized that 'their' is not really ambiguous because of parallelism
419 times the pay of blue-collar workers, as compared to 42 times their pay

Good question..
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B is incorrect for two reasons. 1st )should be .. compared to ..
2nd ) incorrectly compares "ratio to 42", instead of comparing "a ratio to ratio"

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A recent review of pay scales indicates that CEO's now earn an average of 419 times more pay than blue-collar workers, compared to a ratio of 42 times in 1990.

a. that CEO's now earn an average of 419 times more pay than blue-collar workers, compared to a ratio of 42 times -> Times of what?
b. that, on average, CEO's now earn 419 times the pay of blue-collar workers, a ratio that compares to 42 times -> Times of what?
c. that, on average, CEO's now earn 419 times the pay of blue-collar workers, as compared to 42 times their pay, the ratio
d. CEO's who now earn on average 419 time more pay than blue-collar workers, as compared to 42 times their pay, the ratio
Review indicates CEO's -> Doesn't make sense.
e. CEO's now earning an average of 419 times the pay of blue-collar workers, compared to the ratio of 42 times -> Times of what?
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A recent review of pay scales indicates that CEO's now earn an average of 419 times more pay than blue-collar workers, compared to a ratio of 42 times in 1990.

a. that CEO's now earn an average of 419 times more pay than blue-collar workers, compared to a ratio of 42 times
b. that, on average, CEO's now earn 419 times the pay of blue-collar workers, a ratio that compares to 42 times.
c. that, on average, CEO's now earn 419 times the pay of blue-collar workers, as compared to 42 times their pay, the ratio
d. CEo's who now earn on average 419 time more pay than blue-collar workers, as compared to 42 times their pay, the ratio
e. CEO's now earning an average of 419 times the pay of blue-collar workers, compared to the ratio of 42 times



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Hi PiyushK

I have doubt regarding Idiom : X times more pay than Y , should be X times of Y

As in this official question some-psychiatric-studies-indicate-that-among-distinguished-90679.html, "X times more prevalent than Y" is the right idiom.

Also as mentioned in MGMAT SC (Parallel and Comparisons: Extra - numbers in comparison) X times as ... as Y is correct idiom. What I understood till now is whenever we have times we need to indicate more or less because it can mean any of them.

Can you please guide me where am I missing the point?

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A recent review of pay scales indicates that CEO's now earn an average of 419 times more pay than blue-collar workers, compared to a ratio of 42 times in 1980

that CEO's now earn an average of 419 times more pay than blue-collar workers, compared to a ratio of 42 times.
Three errors:
Meaning : CEO's earn what - an average of something or money - an average of 419 times more pay than blue-collar workers: nonsensical. {YES/NO}
Idiom : X times more pay than Y , should be X times of Y {YES/NO}
Modifier : blue-collar workers, compared to blah blah... compared is a ed-modifier modifying workers: wrong {YES/NO}

that, on average, CEO's now earn 419 times the pay of blue-collar workers, a ratio that compares to 42 times.
Meaning : a ratio that compares to 42 times; ratio 419:1 compares to 42:1 of 1980 .... compares what ? incomplete meaning. {YES/NO}

that, on average, CEO's now earn 419 times the pay of blue-collar workers, as compared to 42 times their pay, the ratio.
Modifier : the pay of blue-collar workers, as compared .... the pay of xx, as compared to workers pay compared is modifying the pay and this modification is acceptable thus here it is fine.
Absolute phrase : The ratio in 1980 someway modifies the proceeding modifier's object 42:1 in 1980.
Correct sentence.

CEO's who now earn on average of 419 times more pay than blue-collar workers, as compared to 42 times their pay, the ratio.
Meaning : A recent review of pay scales indicates NOUN CEO's : wrong
Meaning : CEO's who earn , limiting the scope of meaning to CEO's who earn earn blah blah... original meaning covers all CEO's in GENERAL. {YES/NO}
Meaning : who now earn on average of something or money - an average of 419 times more pay than blue-collar workers: nonsensical. {YES/NO}
Idiom : X times more pay than Y , should be X times of Y {YES/NO}
Modifier : than blue-collar workers, compared to blah blah... compared is a ed-modifier modifying workers: wrong {YES/NO}

CEO's now (modifier) earning an average of 419 times the pay of blue-collar workers, compared to the ratio of 42 times
Meaning : A recent review of pay scales indicates NOUN CEO's : wrong
Meaning : earning an average of something or money - an average of 419 times more pay than blue-collar workers: nonsensical. {YES/NO}
Idiom : X times more pay than Y , should be X times of Y {YES/NO}
Modifier: the pay ..., compared (OK) but comparison is not right 419 times the pay != the ratio of 42 times

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The answer is B. There seems to confusion between B and C. C is awkwardly lengthy, B clearly states that " a ratio that compares to 42 times in 1980." and is more precise than what is given in C
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31. A recent review of pay scales indicates that CEO’s now earn an average of 419 times more pay than blue-collar workers, compared to a ratio of 42 times in 1980.

A. that CEO’s now earn an average of 419 times more pay than blue-collar workers, compared to a ratio of 42 times
B. that, on average, CEO’s now earn 419 times the pay of blue-collar workers, a ratio that compares to 42 times
C. that, on average, CEO’s now earn 419 times the pay of blue-collar workers, as compared to 42 times their pay, the ratio
D. CEO’s who now earn on average 419 times more pay than blue-collar workers, as compared to 42 times their pay, the ratio
E. CEO’s now earning an average of 419 times the pay of blue-collar workers, compared to the ratio of 42 times

Anybody can explain?



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Whenever you see X times and the options are 1)higher/greater/older 2)as great as/as old as/as high as

option 2 is right. Moreover we should as something as when we see Xtimes
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I ignored C because of the pronoun *their*... can @e-gmat look into this?


GMAT allows a bit of pronoun ambiguity when there is an element of parallelism involved - e.g.,

If a pronoun is a subject of a clause, it would refer to subject of another clause in the sentence, although there could be 2 different possible antecedent, one of which is the subject of the other clause.

Similarly a possessive pronoun would refer to a possessive noun, although there could be 2 possible antecedents.

Here the possessive "their" refers to " blue collar workers" by virtue of parallelism - this kind of usage is allowed in GMAT.
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OA = C

||ism in C ..419 times ... compared to 42 times
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