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07 Jul 2008, 10:19
goalsnr wrote:
The evidence here is weak becuase it provides no details about the student's grade before and after the intake of special diet.Only D brings in information to say students with previously lower grades performed well after they started takin in special diet and refute the conclusion that special diet donot affect student's growth. This answer choice can used to measure the accuracy of this conclusion made in the argument.

We're not trying to measure the accuracy of the conclusion. The question is looking for the answer that helps us determine the accuracy of the study.

You could perform a test and draw an incorrect conclusion. The fact that the conclusion you draw is incorrect has nothing to do with the validity of the testing methods.

'Which of the following, if true, is most useful in determining the accuracy of the study described above?'
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07 Jul 2008, 14:04
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goalsnr wrote:
The evidence here is weak becuase it provides no details about the student's grade before and after the intake of special diet.Only D brings in information to say students with previously lower grades performed well after they started takin in special diet and refute the conclusion that special diet donot affect student's growth. This answer choice can used to measure the accuracy of this conclusion made in the argument.

We're not trying to measure the accuracy of the conclusion. The question is looking for the answer that helps us determine the accuracy of the study.

You could perform a test and draw an incorrect conclusion. The fact that the conclusion you draw is incorrect has nothing to do with the validity of the testing methods.

'Which of the following, if true, is most useful in determining the accuracy of the study described above?'

Sorry Iam not a native English apeaker.So to me measure the accuracy and determine the accuracy mean the same. Now substitute that in my logic.The rest remains teh same. Hope thi shelps.
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08 Jul 2008, 06:47
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what is the OA and the Source ?
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28 Jul 2010, 06:49
These are the kind of questions that make me hate multiple guess exams.

None of the choices are good. I choose F.

F) The control group (no special diet) had higher average grades before the study was conducted.
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28 Jul 2010, 12:35
(A) Performance of business executives was shown to improve drastically after major alterations were made in their diets.
-- Irrelevant since its nothing related to business executives. Hence A is not a correct answer choice.

(B) Honors students, after altering their diets, maintained that they did not change their study habits.
-- This is not weakening the study. You can logically negate the answer choice and see if it is strengthening the study. Hence B is not a correct answer choice.

(C) Students who participated in various fitness regimens found that their grades improved appreciably after they altered their exercise habits.
-- Irrelevant. Hence C not a correct answer choice.

(D) High school students who previously had low grades found that after they altered their diets, their grades improved dramatically.
-- If this is true, it is stating exactly opposite to study's conclusion. Hence D is a correct answer choice.

(E) All of the college students who volunteered for the study were either in their first or second year of college.
-- This cannot predict the accuracy of study. Hence E is not a correct answer choice.

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28 Jul 2010, 18:42
The answer is D.

A) Is out of scope because we are discussing business performance versus grades
b) mentions study habits instead of grades
c) out of scope
e) out of scope

If D is correct, then the author's conclusion is incorrect. So the accuracy of the argument depends on whether or not D is correct.
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30 Jul 2010, 12:01
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@bhatiasanjay01

what is the OA and the Source ?

i agree. we need the source to determine the structure of the question

IMO (B)
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14 Dec 2010, 06:55
We really should have a source on this question or throw it out.

D cannot be the answer because we have no way of knowing if the study in D was conducted accurately. Therefore, we cannot use that study to determine the accuracy of the study mentioned above.
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01 Aug 2011, 06:35
Before even reading the question under the text I thought to myself - "Well, the study is nice but what about the performance of the second group before they took the diet? Was it the same or it helped to catch up the second group and become of the same level?"

So, when I read the statement "D", I was 100% sure that it was right.
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01 Aug 2011, 10:49
thanks for the explanation....tricky one...my answer is D
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02 Aug 2011, 03:46
I also feel that D should be the answer.

I was confused b/w B and D but later realized that D is correct.

A, B and E I feel are irrelevant

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02 Aug 2011, 04:35
+1 for D.

We are talking about determining the accuracy of the study described above and D helps us to see that the altered diet helps students with low grade to increase their grade. Thus this helps us in determining the accuracy of the study.
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05 Aug 2011, 01:03
D for me
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10 Aug 2011, 12:12
Another D
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27 Sep 2011, 14:35
D is def. the right answer.
It is the only statement that makes a direct reference to students who alter their diets which results in an improved performance.
The fact that that their grades improved serves to weaken the conclusion and is 100% relevant to the question at hand.
The answer D also sheds light on the sixty students, half of whom had a better diet but scored no better than the others, since it suggests that the half that had the same grades as the others were in fact students who previously scored much lower than their peers.
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03 Aug 2012, 05:37
I used elimination technique

(D) High school students who previously had low grades found that after they altered their diets, their grades improved dramatically.- I thought may be it is also to do with age !
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03 Aug 2012, 20:43
Gotta ask, where is this question from? because, if it's from the OG, fine, I'll accept the OA (and I'd like to see the Official Explanation!). If this is from some random collection of CRs, then my answer has to be: NOTA (None Of The Above). Consider:

(A) Performance of business executives was shown to improve drastically after major alterations were made in their diets.
Biz Execs are out of scope for this study. Nor are grades the same as biz performance. No Good.

(B) Honors students, after altering their diets, maintained that they did not change their study habits.
The study does not mention "Honors" students; we don't know how the Honors students altered their diets; we don't know the resulting grades, regardless of study habits. No Good.

(C) Students who participated in various fitness regimens found that their grades improved appreciably after they altered their exercise habits.
Exercise & fitness regimens are not the same as nutritional planning (if someone can show how exercise IS part of nutritional planning, this unquestionably becomes the right answer). Out of scope, so No Good.

(D) High school students who previously had low grades found that after they altered their diets, their grades improved dramatically.
Sorry, but "High school" students are totally out of scope. This is a basic rule of the GMAT: the Argument from Analogy (some other study/law/locality/whatever did X, so we should do X) is never permitted because that other study is out of scope. Further, we have no idea how the high school students altered their diets; this is not the same as "nutritionally balanced". No Good.

(E) All of the college students who volunteered for the study were either in their first or second year of college.
I suppose this answer is the best of a bad lot; at least it's about the same group of students that were studied. Even so, knowing that the students were freshman or sophs tells us nothing directly about the accuracy of the study. Even if every student was a freshman, that tells us nothing about the effects of diet on grades. So No Good.
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05 Aug 2012, 17:19
Pretty heated comments and discussions on this question.

When I read the argument my first instinct was that the study was inaccurate i.e. it is possible that the students who were not considered in the study were already brilliant students / high scoring students. To think of it is this not a clear weakness in the given argument? The "on the contrary" actually led me to think on this aspect.

So when I went through the answer choices, D is the only options which actually helps evaluate the reasoning above and that the study done on the college students was not representative of the actual results.

Hence chose D.
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05 Aug 2012, 21:09
(A) Performance of business executives was shown to improve drastically after major alterations were made in their diets. - The focus of discussion is limited to college students - Out of scope - Incorrect
(B) Honors students, after altering their diets, maintained that they did not change their study habits. - This information would not help determine whether the revised diet plans worked for college students - Irrelevant - Incorrect
(C) Students who participated in various fitness regimens found that their grades improved appreciably after they altered their exercise habits. - Additional information is added in this option which is irrelevant to the information provided in the passage - Incorrect
(D) High school students who previously had low grades found that after they altered their diets, their grades improved dramatically. - Since high school leads to college and the diet plan worked for high school students in improving their grades, this information would help determine the legitimacy of the argument made - Correct
(E) All of the college students who volunteered for the study were either in their first or second year of college. - The year of student in college is irrelevant to the passage - Incorrect

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05 Aug 2012, 21:26
We have to determine the accuracy of the study;
Was the study accurate or inaccurate? So we need something which can either seriously weakens or strongly supports the results of the study. (B) & (E) doesn't give the clarity of the study result . (D) wins
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