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A rectangular box has dimensions 12*10*8 inches. What is the largest possible value of right cylinder that can be placed inside the box?

A. 180 pie
B. 200 Pie
C. 300 Pie
D. 320 Pie
E. 450 Pie

Originally posted by willget800 on 25 Apr 2006, 18:54.
Last edited by Bunuel on 18 Jul 2013, 03:20, edited 2 times in total.
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Ashamock wrote:
Why cant we have radius =6 and height = 10 making the volume 360 Pi ?

Dimensions of the box are 12*10*8 inches if radius of a cylinder is 6 then its diameter is 12 and it won't fit on any face of a box. For example it can not fit on 12*10 face of the box since diameter=12>10=side.

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A rectangular box has dimensions 12*10*8 inches. What is the largest possible value of right cylcinder that can be placed inside the box?

$$volume_{cylinder}=\pi{r^2}h$$

If the cylinder is placed on 8*10 face then it's maximum radius is 8/2=4 and $$volume==\pi*{4^2}*12=192\pi$$;
If the cylinder is placed on 8*12 face then it's maximum radius is 8/2=4 and $$volume==\pi*{4^2}*10=160\pi$$;
If the cylinder is placed on 10*12 face then it's maximum radius is 10/2=5 and $$volume==\pi*{5^2}*8=200\pi$$;

So, the maximum volume is for $$200\pi$$.

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Since the radius of the cylinder is squared to obtain its volume, the radius should be the maximum possible radius in order for the cylinder to achieve its maximum volume.
Point to keep in mind while selecting the maximum possible radius: The diameter should be <= two of the largest sides of the rectangle. If one selects the largest side of the rectangle as the diameter, then the cylinder won't fit into the other side of the rectangle. Refer Figure.
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As a rule of thumb, in such problems, select the second largest side as the diameter (note that it is the diameter and one has to calculate the radius by dividing by 2 before calculating the volume). And the left alone smallest side will be the height of the cylinder (as you need the two largest sides to enclose the bottom of the cylinder the only choice left out for height is the smallest side).

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Remember: the base of the cylinder is a circle
r is constant around the circle, so the base can completely fit in a square, not a rectangle. Therefore, you will not be able to use the entire space in the base of the rectangular box.

the volume of a cylinder is pi * r^2 * h

select largest possible r such that the dimensions of the rectangular base allow maximum value or r
you would want to maximize r more than h because r is squared here
so, select bases 10 and 12 allowing a maximum value of r = 5

volume of cylinder: 25 pi * 8 = 200 pi

to check, think if 8 is one of the dimensions of the base, r = 4
volume of cyclinder: 16 pi * (either 10 or 12 ) = 160 pi or 192 pi
not maximum volume
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My ans is h=8, r=5, volume=200pi.

(If h=12, r can't be more than 4. So pi*r^2*h=12*16pi=192pi
Apparently h=10, r=4 can't be more

Since vol. involves r^2, looking for a greater r would help. However r can't be 6 because the max possible length of the other side could be only 10 which could not fit a circular base)
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Voluem of cylinder is pi * r^2 * h

Obviously, we can get the largest value if r or h are two of the largest value used.

Let's try r = 12, h = 10, v = pi*36*10 = 360pi
And let's try r = 10, h = 12, v = pi*25*12 = 300pi.

The largest possible is therefore 360pi cubic-inches
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I am getting maximum area as 200 pi..with r = 5 and h = 8
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12 by 10, determines the radius of the cylinder = 10/2 = 5
So height 8
Ans 200pi
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Why cant we have radius =6 and height = 10
making the volume 360 Pi ?
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farukqmul wrote:
Bunuel wrote:
Ashamock wrote:
Why cant we have radius =6 and height = 10 making the volume 360 Pi ?

Dimensions of the box are 12*10*8 inches if radius of a cylinder is 6 then its diameter is 12 and it won't fit on any face of a box. For example it can not fit on 12*10 face of the box since diameter=12>10=side.

Complete solution:
A rectangular box has dimensions 12*10*8 inches. What is the largest possible value of right cylcinder that can be placed inside the box?

$$volume_{cylinder}=\pi{r^2}h$$

If the cylinder is placed on 8*10 face then it's maximum radius is 8/2=4 and $$volume==\pi*{4^2}*12=196\pi$$;
If the cylinder is placed on 8*12 face then it's maximum radius is 8/2=4 and $$volume==\pi*{4^2}*10=160\pi$$;
If the cylinder is placed on 10*12 face then it's maximum radius is 10/2=5 and $$volume==\pi*{5^2}*8=200\pi$$;

So, the maximum volume is for $$200\pi$$.

Similar question to practice: the-inside-dimensions-of-a-rectangular-wooden-box-are-128053.html

Hope it helps.

Hi, Can you explain why the diameter cannot be 12 ?I am not getting the concept clearly...Thanks

Sure. If the diameter is 12 then it won't fit on any face of the box. For example it can not fit on 12*10 face of the box since diameter=12>10=side.

Hope it's clear.
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willget800 wrote:
A rectangular box has dimensions 12*10*8 inches. What is the largest possible value of right cylinder that can be placed inside the box?

A. 180 pie
B. 200 Pie
C. 300 Pie
D. 320 Pie
E. 450 Pie

Always remember, the largest possible value will have a diameter that will need to feet on 2 of the sides. Therefore, if it fits in 10 it will also fit in 12. So choose a diameter of 10 = 2r, r=5 and then use the other side 8 for the height giving a total volume of 200pi
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RobVanDam wrote:
Bunuel wrote:
Ashamock wrote:
Why cant we have radius =6 and height = 10 making the volume 360 Pi ?

Dimensions of the box are 12*10*8 inches if radius of a cylinder is 6 then its diameter is 12 and it won't fit on any face of a box. For example it can not fit on 12*10 face of the box since diameter=12>10=side.

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[https://gmatclub.com/forum/posting.php?mode=quote&f=140&p=1052687#b]A rectangular box has dimensions 12*10*8 inches. What is the largest possible value of right cylcinder that can be placed inside the box?[/b]

$$volume_{cylinder}=\pi{r^2}h$$

If the cylinder is placed on 8*10 face then it's maximum radius is 8/2=4 and $$volume==\pi*{4^2}*12=196*\pi$$;
If the cylinder is placed on 8*12 face then it's maximum radius is 8/2=4 and $$volume==\pi*{4^2}*10=160\pi$$;
If the cylinder is placed on 10*12 face then it's maximum radius is 10/2=5 and $$volume==\pi*{5^2}*8=200\pi$$;

So, the maximum volume is for $$200\pi$$.

Similar question to practice: http://gmatclub.com/forum/the-inside-di ... 28053.html

Hope it helps.

bb I guess,It should be $$volume==\pi*{4^2}*12=192\pi$$;

RobVanDam is right
Could someone please ask Bunuel to edit that to 192$$\pi$$
I guess this is going to be the rarest of rare occasions when Bunuel did a mistake, no he can't - It might have been just a typo error _________________
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max vol answer is 200pi with r = 5, and height = 8

other are clearly lower,
r = 4, h = 12
r = 4, h = 10

u have to take care of the different sides of the box while calculating the volume...

to ncprasad's concern, a diagonal long cylinder can't be fit into the box unless it becomes a think stick...
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yes the OA is 200pi... but i got trapped along with ywilfred by maximizing the Volume algebratically... and the trap was logical sense Manager  Joined: 15 Apr 2012
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Bunuel wrote:
Ashamock wrote:
Why cant we have radius =6 and height = 10 making the volume 360 Pi ?

Dimensions of the box are 12*10*8 inches if radius of a cylinder is 6 then its diameter is 12 and it won't fit on any face of a box. For example it can not fit on 12*10 face of the box since diameter=12>10=side.

Complete solution:
A rectangular box has dimensions 12*10*8 inches. What is the largest possible value of right cylcinder that can be placed inside the box?

$$volume_{cylinder}=\pi{r^2}h$$

If the cylinder is placed on 8*10 face then it's maximum radius is 8/2=4 and $$volume==\pi*{4^2}*12=196\pi$$;
If the cylinder is placed on 8*12 face then it's maximum radius is 8/2=4 and $$volume==\pi*{4^2}*10=160\pi$$;
If the cylinder is placed on 10*12 face then it's maximum radius is 10/2=5 and $$volume==\pi*{5^2}*8=200\pi$$;

So, the maximum volume is for $$200\pi$$.

Similar question to practice: the-inside-dimensions-of-a-rectangular-wooden-box-are-128053.html

Hope it helps.

Hi, Can you explain why the diameter cannot be 12 ?I am not getting the concept clearly...Thanks
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willget800 wrote:
A rectangular box has dimensions 12*10*8 inches. What is the largest possible value of right cylinder that can be placed inside the box?

A. 180 pie
B. 200 Pie
C. 300 Pie
D. 320 Pie
E. 450 Pie

So first we need to place the cylinder so that its diameter is >= to at least two of the dimensions.
That is 10 and 12, so r = 5

Next, height has to be 8 then. I suggest you draw the cuboid and see for yourself that we need a side where the circumference stands to be 10*12 otherwise diameter won't fit

Then I guess the question asks for the largest volume possible

So pi (r ) ^ 2 * h = 200pi

That would be answer B indeed

Hope it helps
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willget800 wrote:
A rectangular box has dimensions 12*10*8 inches. What is the largest possible value of right cylinder that can be placed inside the box?

A. 180 pie
B. 200 Pie
C. 300 Pie
D. 320 Pie
E. 450 Pie

Question needs to be edited to show that we need to calculate volume.
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willget800 wrote:
A rectangular box has dimensions 12*10*8 inches. What is the largest possible value of right cylinder that can be placed inside the box?

A. 180 pie
B. 200 Pie
C. 300 Pie
D. 320 Pie
E. 450 Pie

if you take 12*10 as cylindrical base, you can occupy largest volume with the cylinder
so volume of the cylinder is : pi*5*5*8=200*pi
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Bunuel wrote:
Ashamock wrote:
Why cant we have radius =6 and height = 10 making the volume 360 Pi ?

Dimensions of the box are 12*10*8 inches if radius of a cylinder is 6 then its diameter is 12 and it won't fit on any face of a box. For example it can not fit on 12*10 face of the box since diameter=12>10=side.

Complete solution:
A rectangular box has dimensions 12*10*8 inches. What is the largest possible value of right cylcinder that can be placed inside the box?

$$volume_{cylinder}=\pi{r^2}h$$

If the cylinder is placed on 8*10 face then it's maximum radius is 8/2=4 and $$volume==\pi*{4^2}*12=196\pi$$;
If the cylinder is placed on 8*12 face then it's maximum radius is 8/2=4 and $$volume==\pi*{4^2}*10=160\pi$$;
If the cylinder is placed on 10*12 face then it's maximum radius is 10/2=5 and $$volume==\pi*{5^2}*8=200\pi$$;

So, the maximum volume is for $$200\pi$$.

Similar question to practice: the-inside-dimensions-of-a-rectangular-wooden-box-are-128053.html

Hope it helps.

buunel this is a great explanation but it is hard to visualize without picture, can you draw pictures according to your dimension plz Re: A rectangular box has dimensions 12*10*8 inches. What is the   [#permalink] 14 Oct 2015, 03:23

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