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i disagree with the OA.

what is the source of this ques?

all the answer choices seems to be wrong!
left with B and D, D looks better than B (but still construction is weird)
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i disagree with the OA.

what is the source of this ques?

all the answer choices seems to be wrong!
left with B and D, D looks better than B (but still construction is weird)


It is from a book I have just bought in Amazon: GMAT Pros Ultimate GMAT Sentence Correction Refresher with GMAT Grammar

https://www.amazon.com/GMAT-Ultimate-Sen ... 780&sr=8-1

Im reading it today and I found that question with which I also disagree
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I was asked to take this one one by PM, so here I am! And as many have said, there are no correct answers here. Whoever wrote this question should be blocked from the site. As explanation:

A report by the Secret Service has concluded that much of the recently unfounded transgressions against which the White House is accused comes from the opposing political party.

A) much of the recently unfounded transgressions against which the White House is accused comes
PROBLEM: Transgressions are countable, so we need "many". Also, you can't be accused against a transgression. You must use the preposition "of" with "accuse". Also, they aren't "recently unfounded", as if they were "unfounded" (which isn't an verb; you can't "unfound" something) recently. We could have said "recent unfounded transgressions".

B) much of the recently unfounded transgressions that the White House is accused come
PROBLEM: Transgressions are countable, so we need "many". Also, you have to use the preposition "of" with "accuse". Same as above with "recently".

C) much of the transgressions that are recently unfounded and that the White House is accused of comes
PROBLEM: Transgressions are countable, so we need "many". Same as above with "recently".

D) many of the transgressions that are recently unfounded and the White House is accused of come
PROBLEM: Recently unfounded issue.

E) many of the recently unfounded accusations of which the White House is accused comes
PROBLEM: It should say "come" at the end. Recently unfounded issue.

This sentence sucks. Everyone, ignore the poster forever after.

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I cant agree more with you.

The question is from the book posted above, which I therefore not recommend.

Many thanks Tommy.

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Hey Noburu,

Didn't mean to imply YOU should be blocked! : )

Only the writer of this abysmal question.

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Noburu. I would also recommend, and this is for everyone, that you stick to a small amount of material and master it, as opposed to going nuts with books.

I can say, wholeheartedly, that the MGMAT books plus the OGs are MORE THAN ENOUGH to rock this test, if you have every question mastered. : )

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I can say, wholeheartedly, that the MGMAT books plus the OGs are MORE THAN ENOUGH to rock this test, if you have every question mastered. : )

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I agree (and I'm not affiliated with MGMAT :wink: ), stick to the gold standard.

I also liked Kaplan 800.
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This may seem like it was written to no one, but Noburu wrote me privately to go into more detail on the subject of this issue of quality over quantity. So here was my response:

Hey Noburu,

Sorry to disagree, but I've never met someone who had all of our books memorized, along with the OGs, and struggled to break 700. In fact, going through so many books has probably hurt you; doing tons of questions can stand in for actually developing a coherent game plan on a question-type by question-type level for the questions you have done. I'm not saying that's necessarily true, but I just want to make sure you have a DIRECT, STEP BY STEP PLAN for every verbal question type (SC - parallelism, CR - Draw a Conclusion, RC - inference, etc.).

If you feel like you have that, go ahead and hit up more questions. But I would really recommend you focus in on process, rather than powering through content. Try to memorize the entire OG. That would be powerful as well.

Does that make sense? Any follow-ups?

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I agree with you Tommy 100000%.. I was trying to read up everything out there and soon realized the futility.. Stick to a few books set a timeframe peak your performance and tame the beast... Thanks Tommy for helping us with SC..

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No worries. And hopefully Noboru will forgive me for using him as a sounding board! : )
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This may seem like it was written to no one, but Noburu wrote me privately to go into more detail on the subject of this issue of quality over quantity. So here was my response:

Hey Noburu,

Sorry to disagree, but I've never met someone who had all of our books memorized, along with the OGs, and struggled to break 700. In fact, going through so many books has probably hurt you; doing tons of questions can stand in for actually developing a coherent game plan on a question-type by question-type level for the questions you have done. I'm not saying that's necessarily true, but I just want to make sure you have a DIRECT, STEP BY STEP PLAN for every verbal question type (SC - parallelism, CR - Draw a Conclusion, RC - inference, etc.).

If you feel like you have that, go ahead and hit up more questions. But I would really recommend you focus in on process, rather than powering through content. Try to memorize the entire OG. That would be powerful as well.

Does that make sense? Any follow-ups?

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OK, so I guess I'm therefore the first one you are meeting who has memorized all that stuff and is struggling to achieve 700+. I can say that I have learnt each grammar rule explained in the books, and am very familiar with the critical reasoning process (I have read Logical Reasoning LSAT several times, and I know the different techniques- How to negate the answer in an assumption question, and all the other stuff...). Also, I have memorized the entire OG, and I can say that all the questions are much more simple than the questions of the real exam.
I think that I have to assume that is not a matter of studying more tips, grammar or techniques. For me is only about english skills. RC passages are sometimes difficult to understand for not native guys (I'm practicing with LSAT: I've practiced 42 LSAT passages in the last couple of weeks, that is 286 questions and only got 211 correct - 73% accuracy), and in the CR questions there are many times in which all the reasoning rests on a key word that I dont have in my vocabulary, and no strategy is going to work if I dont catch the meaning of that key word.
I'm going to work hard during the next couple of weeks and lets see if I can crack this monster. If not, I will continue trying to improve my vocabulary, reading more and more, and learning more english...and will try in a year or so. For me, I see the GMAT more as an english language test, than as an aptitude test, which on the other hand is perfectly comprehensible.

What do you think about that? How hard is to go from a V32 to a V36?

Originally posted by noboru on 30 Aug 2010, 15:42.
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A report by the Secret Service has concluded that much of the recently unfounded transgressions against which the White House is accused comes from the opposing political party.

A) much of the recently unfounded transgressions against which the White House is accused comes
B) much of the recently unfounded transgressions that the White House is accused come
C) much of the transgressions that are recently unfounded and that the White House is accused of comes
D) many of the transgressions that are recently unfounded and the White House is accused of come
E) many of the recently unfounded accusations of which the White House is accused comes


Answer: None
Logically speaking, I would expect the number of transgressions that the White House is accused of to be of a limited number i.e. not too many such that it would be uncountable. So, I will go for 'many' instead of 'much'. ---> eliminates A, B, and C

D is incorrect - Parallelism: 'that are recently unfounded and that the White House is accused of..."

Also, it should be 'recent unfounded transgressions' and not 'recently unfounded transgressions'. So, E is wrong too.
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A report by the Secret Service has concluded that much of the recently unfounded transgressions against which the White House is accused comes from the opposing political party.

A) much of the recently unfounded transgressions against which the White House is accused comes

B) much of the recently unfounded transgressions that the White House is accused come

C) much of the transgressions that are recently unfounded and that the White House is accused of comes

D) many of the transgressions that are recently unfounded and the White House is accused of come

E) many of the recently unfounded accusations of which the White House is accused comes
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A report by the Secret Service has concluded that much of the recently unfounded transgressions against which the White House is accused comes from the opposing political party.


A) much of the recently unfounded transgressions against which the White House is accused comes

B) much of the recently unfounded transgressions that the White House is accused come

C) much of the transgressions that are recently unfounded and that the White House is accused of comes

D) many of the transgressions that are recently unfounded and the White House is accused of come

E) many of the recently unfounded accusations of which the White House is accused comes




In A, "transgressions against which the White House is accused" is wordy and awkward.
B has subject verb disagreement in "much...come"
C and D are extremely awkward and wordy in "that are recently unfounded and that the...".
E has subject-verb disagreement in "many of...comes"
All 5 answer choices have serious issues :-|

Another appraoch:
Besides, as "transgressions" are countable, "much" cannot come. So D or E.
E has subject-verb disagreement,
D is probably the least bad but "recently unfounded" is too bad to be selected.
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