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A set contains the following 5 numbers: a^2,a^5,a,a/2, and a/5. Is the range of the set equal to a^2–a^5?

1. a is negative
2. a^5<a

A. Statement (1) ALONE is sufficient, but statement (2) alone is not sufficient to answer the question asked
B. Statement (2) ALONE is sufficient, but statement (1) alone is not sufficient to answer the question asked
C. Both statements (1) and (2) TOGETHER are sufficient to answer the question asked; but NEITHER statement ALONE is sufficient
D. EACH statement ALONE is sufficient to answer the question asked
E. Statements (1) and (2) TOGETHER are NOT sufficient to answer the question asked, and additional data specific to the problem are needed


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Hi Akhil

IMO it should be B.

As a^5 is less than a, it means that a is between 0 and 1. Hence range of the set would be "a-a^5", which makes it sufficient to answer. Can you please explain your reasoning.

Thanks in advance.


For Statement 2, What if a < -1 In that case as well Range can be a^2> a^5 ??

Since there are 5 values it's important to make a table below

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Combining both statement you see that a is negative and a<-1

Ans is C
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Let me give it a go.

(1) a is negative, then a can be negative integer or negative fraction. Lets take 2 examples, a=-2 and a=-1/2
For a=-2, the sets can be arranged as a^5, a, a/2, a/5, a^2.. So range is given by a^2 - a^5. hence answer to the question is YES
But for a=-1/2, the sets can be arranged as a, a/2, a/5, a^5, a^2.. So range is given by a^2 - a. Hence answer to the question is NO
INSUFFICIENT

(2) a^5 < a; this means a is either negative integer or a positive fraction is possible
We have already solved for negative integer above, and the answer was YES
Positive fraction, lets say a = 1/2, the sets can be arranged as a^5, a/5, a/2, a^2, a.. So range is given by a - a^5. Hence answer to the question is NO
INSUFFICIENT

Combining (1) & (2)
a MUST be a negative integer, and we have already solved this before which give the answer YES

Hence, the answer is C
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A set contains the following 5 numbers: a^2,a^5,a,a/2, and a/5. Is the range of the set equal to a^2–a^5?

1. a is negative
2. a^5<a

A. Statement (1) ALONE is sufficient, but statement (2) alone is not sufficient to answer the question asked
B. Statement (2) ALONE is sufficient, but statement (1) alone is not sufficient to answer the question asked
C. Both statements (1) and (2) TOGETHER are sufficient to answer the question asked; but NEITHER statement ALONE is sufficient
D. EACH statement ALONE is sufficient to answer the question asked
E. Statements (1) and (2) TOGETHER are NOT sufficient to answer the question asked, and additional data specific to the problem are needed


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Hi Akhil

IMO it should be B.

As a^5 is less than a, it means that a is between 0 and 1. Hence range of the set would be "a-a^5", which makes it sufficient to answer. Can you please explain your reasoning.

Thanks in advance.


Hi Ankit,
It would be
There will be two cases for
a^5 < a
Case i) 0< a < 1 , which you pointed out; In this case a^5 will be even lesser fraction of the fraction a
Case ii) a < -1 ; in this case , a^5 and a both are negative numbers but a^5 is of higher magnitude than a

So,you see the statement 2 alone does not suffice to find out the range for the set which would differ in above both cases.

So, now checking each statement :
1) a is negative i.e a<0, for which range would be different for the cases
(i) if -1 <= a < 0
(ii) if a< -1 ; So,not sufficient

2) a^5<a for which range would be different for the cases
(i) if 0 < a <1
(ii) if a < -1 ; So,not sufficient

However,combining these two statements yield
a < -1, in which case we can find the range. Range would be a^2 - a^5

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A set contains the following 5 numbers: \(a^2, a^5, a, \frac{a}{2}, \frac{a}{5}\). Is the range of the set equal to \(a^2 - a^5\)?

(1) a is negative
(2) \(a^5 < a\)


the question is asking whether a^2 is the largest number in the set and whether a^5 is the smallest.

from 1

since a is -ve we know a^2 is largest but we cant be sure whether a^5 is smallest ( true if a is integer for example and false if a is a -ve fraction).. insuff

from 2

a^5< a .... a^5 - a < 0 , i.e. a(a^4 - 1) < 0 this is true if a is -ve and larger than 1 or a is a +ve fraction... insuff

both together

a is a -ve fraction larger than 1 thus surely range is a^2 - a^5
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A set contains the following 5 numbers: a^2,a^5,a,a/2, and a/5. Is the range of the set equal to a^2–a^5?

1. a is negative
2. a^5<a

A. Statement (1) ALONE is sufficient, but statement (2) alone is not sufficient to answer the question asked
B. Statement (2) ALONE is sufficient, but statement (1) alone is not sufficient to answer the question asked
C. Both statements (1) and (2) TOGETHER are sufficient to answer the question asked; but NEITHER statement ALONE is sufficient
D. EACH statement ALONE is sufficient to answer the question asked
E. Statements (1) and (2) TOGETHER are NOT sufficient to answer the question asked, and additional data specific to the problem are needed


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Hi Akhil

IMO it should be B.

As a^5 is less than a, it means that a is between 0 and 1. Hence range of the set would be "a-a^5", which makes it sufficient to answer. Can you please explain your reasoning.

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A set contains the following 5 numbers: \(a^2, a^5, a, \frac{a}{2}, \frac{a}{5}\). Is the range of the set equal to \(a^2 - a^5\)?

(1) a is negative
(2) \(a^5 < a\)


Given \(a^2, a^5, a, \frac{a}{2}, \frac{a}{5}\), do the first two values yield the greatest difference between any two values in the set?

Statement 1: \(a\) is negative
Case 1: \(a\) is a negative fraction between -1 and 0
Plugging \(a=-\frac{1}{2}\) into \(a^2, a^5, a, \frac{a}{2}, \frac{a}{5}\), we get:
1/4, -1/32, -1/2, -1/4, -1/10
Here, the greatest difference is NOT yielded by the first two values, so the answer to the question stem is NO.

Case 2: \(a\) is less than -1
Plugging \(a=-2\) into \(a^2, a^5, a, \frac{a}{2}, \frac{a}{5}\), we get:
4, -32, -2, -1, -2/5
Here, the greatest difference IS yielded by the first two values, so the answer to the question stem is YES.

Since the answer is NO in Case 1 but YES in Case 2, INSUFFICIENT.

Statement 2: \(a^5 < a\)
Case 2 also satisfies statement 2.
In Case 2, the answer to the question stem is YES.

Case 3: \(a\) is a positive fraction between 0 and 1
Plugging \(a=\frac{1}{2}\) into \(a^2, a^5, a, \frac{a}{2}, \frac{a}{5}\), we get:
1/4, 1/32, 1/2, 1/4, 1/10
Here, the greatest difference is NOT yielded by the first two values, so the answer to the question stem is NO.

Since the answer is YES in Case 2 but NO in Case 3, INSUFFICIENT.

Statements combined:
Only Case 2 satisfies both statements.
In Case 2, the answer to the question stem is YES.
SUFFICIENT.

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A set contains the following 5 numbers: a2,a5,a,a2,a5a2,a5,a,a2,a5. Is the range of the set equal to a2−a5a2−a5?

(1) a is negative
(2) a5<a

For statement 1 . the set range is differenent when we select value less than - 1 and when we select value between -1 and 0
statement 2 a(a^4-1)< 0
a(a^2+1) (a+1)(a-1)<0
this will hold when a< -1 or a is between 0 an 1

combining statement 1 and 2
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Unable to understand how 0<a<1 was conceived.

If a(a^4-1)< 0
a(a^2+1) (a+1)(a-1)<0

correct me if i am wrong ; a<0 else a<-1 else a<1
How do you get a is between 0 and 1 ??? ( i understand the portion a<-1)
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IMO its C
statement 1 says A is negative , but we dont now if a is in fraction form or integer form - insufficient
statement 2- a^5 < a , which means that a could be fraction or negative but not both-insufficient
stat 1 + stat 2 - a is negative and is not in fraction form
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A set contains the following 5 numbers: \(a^2, a^5, a, \frac{a}{2}, \frac{a}{5}\). Is the range of the set equal to \(a^2 - a^5\)?

(1) a is negative
(2) \(a^5 < a\)



is it really "95% hard" category question?
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Let me give it a go.

(1) a is negative, then a can be negative integer or negative fraction. Lets take 2 examples, a=-2 and a=-1/2
For a=-2, the sets can be arranged as a^5, a, a/2, a/5, a^2.. So range is given by a^2 - a^5. hence answer to the question is YES
But for a=-1/2, the sets can be arranged as a, a/2, a/5, a^5, a^2.. So range is given by a^2 - a. Hence answer to the question is NO
INSUFFICIENT

(2) a^5 < a; this means a is either negative integer or a positive fraction is possible
We have already solved for negative integer above, and the answer was YES
Positive fraction, lets say a = 1/2, the sets can be arranged as a^5, a/5, a/2, a^2, a.. So range is given by a - a^5. Hence answer to the question is NO
INSUFFICIENT

Combining (1) & (2)
a MUST be a negative integer, and we have already solved this before which give the answer YES

Hence, the answer is C



Cannot understand this part..........But for a=-1/2, the sets can be arranged as a, a/2, a/5, a^5, a^2.. So range is given by a^2 - a. Hence answer to the question is NO
. wouldn't this give us a^5 -1/32, which is the smallest of all?
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AnirudhaS wrote:
Let me give it a go.

(1) a is negative, then a can be negative integer or negative fraction. Lets take 2 examples, a=-2 and a=-1/2
For a=-2, the sets can be arranged as a^5, a, a/2, a/5, a^2.. So range is given by a^2 - a^5. hence answer to the question is YES
But for a=-1/2, the sets can be arranged as a, a/2, a/5, a^5, a^2.. So range is given by a^2 - a. Hence answer to the question is NO
INSUFFICIENT

(2) a^5 < a; this means a is either negative integer or a positive fraction is possible
We have already solved for negative integer above, and the answer was YES
Positive fraction, lets say a = 1/2, the sets can be arranged as a^5, a/5, a/2, a^2, a.. So range is given by a - a^5. Hence answer to the question is NO
INSUFFICIENT

Combining (1) & (2)
a MUST be a negative integer, and we have already solved this before which give the answer YES

Hence, the answer is C



Cannot understand this part..........But for a=-1/2, the sets can be arranged as a, a/2, a/5, a^5, a^2.. So range is given by a^2 - a. Hence answer to the question is NO
. wouldn't this give us a^5 -1/32, which is the smallest of all?

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See the highlighted part again. For a = -1/2,
a^2 = 1/4 and a^ 5 = -1/32(is this smallest or is this 2nd largest :think: )
Thus,
a^2 - a = 1/4 - (-1/2) = 1/4 + 1/2 = 3/4 * 1
a^2 - a^5 = 1/4 - (-1/32) = 3/4 * 3/8

Which one is largest.?
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A set contains the following 5 numbers: \(a^2, a^5, a, \frac{a}{2}, \frac{a}{5}\). Is the range of the set equal to \(a^2 - a^5\)?

(1) a is negative
(2) \(a^5 < a\)


Good numbers to test: \(-2, -1/2, 0, 1/2, 2\)

(1) If \(a < 0,\) then \(a^2\) is the largest out of all the numbers since its raised to an even power.

What's the smallest number? If \(a = \frac{-1}{2}\), the smallest number is a.

If \(a = -2\), the smallest number is \(a^5\).

We could get two different ranges; INSUFFICIENT.

(2) \(a^5 < a\)

Either \(a < -1\) or \(0 < a < 1\). INSUFFICIENT.

(1&2) Combined, \(a < -1\).

We can conclude the range is \(a^2 - a^5\)
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Bunuel Can you help me with this? Doesn't GMAT Considers definition of range to be difference between largest positive and smallest positive . There's infact a GMATPrep Question on this where the set has some negative and positive values and you're asked about range. Is something wrong with Veritas or am I thinking too much about it
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Bunuel Can you help me with this? Doesn't GMAT Considers definition of range to be difference between largest positive and smallest positive . There's infact a GMATPrep Question on this where the set has some negative and positive values and you're asked about range. Is something wrong with Veritas or am I thinking too much about it


The range of a set is the difference between the largest and smallest elements of the set. For example, the range of {-5, 0, 7, 11} is 11 - (-5) = 16.
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Bunuel Thanks! I confused this question with https://gmatclub.com/forum/list-k-consi ... 47855.html.
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