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A special Japanese green tea called genmai-cha contains brown rice and is considered as a delicacy fit for a gourmet by most Japanese, though it is virtually unavailable outside Yokohama.

A. A special Japanese green tea called genmai-cha contains brown rice and is considered as a delicacy fit for a gourmet by most Japanese, though it is virtually unavailable outside Yokohama.

B. Considered to be a delicacy fit for a gourmet by most Japanese, genmai-cha is a special green tea that contains brown rice, virtually unavailable outside Yokohama.

C. A special Japanese green tea called genmai-cha contains brown rice and is considered a gourmet delicacy by most Japanese, though it is virtually unavailable outside Yokohama.

D. Most Japanese consider genmai-cha, a special green tea which contains brown rice, as a delicacy virtually unavailable outside Yokohama.

E. Though virtually unavailable outside Yokohama, most Japanese consider genmai-cha, a special green tea that contains brown rice, a gourmet delicacy.
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03 Sep 2006, 07:59
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A special Japanese green tea called genmai-cha contains brown rice and is considered as a delicacy fit for a gourmet by most Japanese, though it is virtually unavailable outside Yokohama.

A. A special Japanese green tea called genmai-cha contains brown rice and is considered as a delicacy fit for a gourmet by most Japanese, though it is virtually unavailable outside Yokohama.

B. Considered to be a delicacy fit for a gourmet by most Japanese, genmai-cha is a special green tea that contains brown rice, virtually unavailable outside Yokohama.

C. A special Japanese green tea called genmai-cha contains brown rice and is considered a gourmet delicacy by most Japanese, though it is virtually unavailable outside Yokohama.

D. Most Japanese consider genmai-cha, a special green tea which contains brown rice, as a delicacy virtually unavailable outside Yokohama.

E. Though virtually unavailable outside Yokohama, most Japanese consider genmai-cha, a special green tea that contains brown rice, a gourmet delicacy.

I guess C

consider A....B...is idomatic so (C) and (E) are left..

E has modifier problem-- though unavailable.. , Japanese .. implies Japanese are unavailable
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03 Sep 2006, 08:51
Going with E here

C & E are close but went with E since it is a little more concise
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03 Sep 2006, 08:57
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Going with E here

C & E are close but went with E since it is a little more concise

I think E has a problem with the modifier because it seems like that most japanese are unavailable outside Yokohama.

C definitely wins this one
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03 Sep 2006, 09:45
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Going with E here

C & E are close but went with E since it is a little more concise

I think E has a problem with the modifier because it seems like that most japanese are unavailable outside Yokohama.

C definitely wins this one

Exactly. This one came down to A or C. A incorrectly uses the idiom consider as~

Clearly (C)
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03 Sep 2006, 19:52
Yes. OA is C.
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03 Sep 2006, 22:02
C

"Consider as"
"considered to be" etc....
are all wrong. "consider" is used bare.
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03 Sep 2006, 22:13
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ps_dahiya wrote:
C

"Consider as"
"considered to be" etc....
are all wrong. "consider" is used bare.

Consider as is always wrong?

Atleast in GMAT. This is what I have read at many places.
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03 Sep 2006, 22:25
ps_dahiya wrote:
GMATT73 wrote:
ps_dahiya wrote:
C

"Consider as"
"considered to be" etc....
are all wrong. "consider" is used bare.

Consider as is always wrong?

Atleast in GMAT. This is what I have read at many places.

Seems like you are partially correct Dahiya.

From Cambridge:

consider (OPINION) Show phonetics
verb [T often + object + (to be) + noun or adjective]
to believe someone or something to be, or think of them as:
He is currently considered (to be) the best British athlete.
We don't consider her suitable for the job.
[passive + object + to infinitive] It is considered bad manners in some cultures to speak with your mouth full of food.
[R] I consider myself lucky that I only hurt my arm in the accident.
Do you consider him a friend of yours?
[+ (that)] She considers (that) she has done enough to help already.

From Oxford:

consider + that = expresses an opion.

Neither source mentions "consider as" as an idiomatic possibility.
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03 Sep 2006, 23:05
GMATT73 wrote:
ps_dahiya wrote:
GMATT73 wrote:
ps_dahiya wrote:
C

"Consider as"
"considered to be" etc....
are all wrong. "consider" is used bare.

Consider as is always wrong?

Atleast in GMAT. This is what I have read at many places.

Seems like you are partially correct Dahiya.

From Cambridge:

consider (OPINION) Show phonetics
verb [T often + object + (to be) + noun or adjective]
to believe someone or something to be, or think of them as:
He is currently considered (to be) the best British athlete.
We don't consider her suitable for the job.
[passive + object + to infinitive] It is considered bad manners in some cultures to speak with your mouth full of food.
[R] I consider myself lucky that I only hurt my arm in the accident.
Do you consider him a friend of yours?
[+ (that)] She considers (that) she has done enough to help already.

From Oxford:

consider + that = expresses an opion.

Neither source mentions "consider as" as an idiomatic possibility.

When we say always incorrect then it means ALMOST ALWAYS. In GMATLand, consider is ALMOST ALWAYS used bare.
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03 Sep 2006, 23:17
ps_dahiya wrote:
GMATT73 wrote:
ps_dahiya wrote:
GMATT73 wrote:
ps_dahiya wrote:
C

"Consider as"
"considered to be" etc....
are all wrong. "consider" is used bare.

Consider as is always wrong?

Atleast in GMAT. This is what I have read at many places.

Seems like you are partially correct Dahiya.

From Cambridge:

consider (OPINION) Show phonetics
verb [T often + object + (to be) + noun or adjective]
to believe someone or something to be, or think of them as:
He is currently considered (to be) the best British athlete.
We don't consider her suitable for the job.
[passive + object + to infinitive] It is considered bad manners in some cultures to speak with your mouth full of food.
[R] I consider myself lucky that I only hurt my arm in the accident.
Do you consider him a friend of yours?
[+ (that)] She considers (that) she has done enough to help already.

From Oxford:

consider + that = expresses an opion.

Neither source mentions "consider as" as an idiomatic possibility.

When we say always incorrect then it means ALMOST ALWAYS. In GMATLand, consider is ALMOST ALWAYS used bare.

Makes one wonder if GMAC is trying to standardize (in other words "brainwash") us all into thinking the same way...
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04 Sep 2006, 01:14
I like E the best here, but it is a little strange since this tea is quite common. The rare Japanese tea would be Matcha, but all of these teas can be found on the shelves of tea stores across the world.
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04 Sep 2006, 01:52
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I like E the best here, but it is a little strange since this tea is quite common. The rare Japanese tea would be Matcha, but all of these teas can be found on the shelves of tea stores across the world.

Two points:

1. How can most Japanese be virtually unavailable outside of Yokohama? Sounds like a oxymoron

2. Matcha is more ceremonial than it is "rare." Tencha would be the rarest (the leaf from which matcha is derived) and only if its powder were served in combination with kaiseki at a ichigen kotowari in Gion, Kyoto. But then again, I'm neither Japanese nor a student of the Iemoto grand master Sen no Rikyu. Matcha itself can be found abroad if you know your asian tea stores.
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05 Sep 2006, 08:28
GMATT73 wrote:
ps_dahiya wrote:
C

"Consider as"
"considered to be" etc....
are all wrong. "consider" is used bare.

Consider as is always wrong?

"consider to be" in GMAT seems always wrong....

but see this one:

In California, a lack of genetic variation in the Argentine ant has allowed the species to spread widely; due to their being so genetically similar to one another, the ants consider all their fellows to be a close relative and thus do not engage in the kind of fierce intercolony struggles that limits the spread of this species in its native Argentina.

A) due to their being so genetically similar to one another, the ants consider all their fellows to be a close relative and thus do not engage in the kind of fierce intercolony struggles that limits
B) due to its being so genetically similar the ant considers all its fellows to be a close relative and thus does not engage in the kind of fierce intercolony struggles that limit
C) because it is so genetically similar, the ants considers all its fellows to be a close relative and thus does not engage in the kind of fierce intercolony struggles that limits
D) because they are so genetically similar to one another, the ants consider all their fellows to be close relatives and thus do not engage in the kind of fierce intercolony struggles that limit
E) because of being so genetically similar to one another, the ants consider all their fellows to be a close relative and thus do not engage in the kind of fierce intercolony struggles that limits
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05 Sep 2006, 09:13
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What is the OA?

Its exactly 8 posts above your post.
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05 Sep 2006, 09:28
I meant for the question that jerry posted
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GMATT73 wrote:
ps_dahiya wrote:
C

"Consider as"
"considered to be" etc....
are all wrong. "consider" is used bare.

Consider as is always wrong?

"consider to be" in GMAT seems always wrong....

but see this one:

In California, a lack of genetic variation in the Argentine ant has allowed the species to spread widely; due to their being so genetically similar to one another, the ants consider all their fellows to be a close relative and thus do not engage in the kind of fierce intercolony struggles that limits the spread of this species in its native Argentina.

A) due to their being so genetically similar to one another, the ants consider all their fellows to be a close relative and thus do not engage in the kind of fierce intercolony struggles that limits
B) due to its being so genetically similar the ant considers all its fellows to be a close relative and thus does not engage in the kind of fierce intercolony struggles that limit
C) because it is so genetically similar, the ants considers all its fellows to be a close relative and thus does not engage in the kind of fierce intercolony struggles that limits
D) because they are so genetically similar to one another, the ants consider all their fellows to be close relatives and thus do not engage in the kind of fierce intercolony struggles that limit
E) because of being so genetically similar to one another, the ants consider all their fellows to be a close relative and thus do not engage in the kind of fierce intercolony struggles that limits

(D) is correct in this case. What Dahiya was trying to say is that "consider" is ALMOST always used bare. This is a rare exception. I have yet to find a grammatically correct sentence, anywhere, which uses the idiom "consider as~."
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GMATT73 wrote:
ps_dahiya wrote:
C

"Consider as"
"considered to be" etc....
are all wrong. "consider" is used bare.

Consider as is always wrong?

"consider to be" in GMAT seems always wrong....

but see this one:

In California, a lack of genetic variation in the Argentine ant has allowed the species to spread widely; due to their being so genetically similar to one another, the ants consider all their fellows to be a close relative and thus do not engage in the kind of fierce intercolony struggles that limits the spread of this species in its native Argentina.

A) due to their being so genetically similar to one another, the ants consider all their fellows to be a close relative and thus do not engage in the kind of fierce intercolony struggles that limits
B) due to its being so genetically similar the ant considers all its fellows to be a close relative and thus does not engage in the kind of fierce intercolony struggles that limit
C) because it is so genetically similar, the ants considers all its fellows to be a close relative and thus does not engage in the kind of fierce intercolony struggles that limits
D) because they are so genetically similar to one another, the ants consider all their fellows to be close relatives and thus do not engage in the kind of fierce intercolony struggles that limit
E) because of being so genetically similar to one another, the ants consider all their fellows to be a close relative and thus do not engage in the kind of fierce intercolony struggles that limits

"consider to be" is used in all choices then there is no point in debating its use. In GMATLand, if we say ALWAYS then it means ALMOST ALWAYS. Thats why some one said "Use idioms as last resort."
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28 Aug 2016, 14:09
correct answer would be option C.it precisely explains the intended meaning of the sentence
all other options use the incorrect idiom whereas option C uses the correct idiom ' consider x as y '
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29 Aug 2016, 02:43
What does IT refer to in C :-

A special Japanese green tea called genmai-cha contains brown rice and is considered a gourmet delicacy by most Japanese, though it is virtually unavailable outside Yokohama.

Per me, IT can refer to either (1) Brown Rice, (2) Gourmet delicacy OR (3) GENMAI-CHI
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