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# A study done on children under the age of twelve showed that

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A study done on children under the age of twelve showed that 15 percent of them experienced night terrors but for children whose parents had also experienced such terrors in childhood it was more likely that they would perceive their behaviour as fundamentally different from their peers.

(A) for children whose parents had also experienced such terrors in childhood it was more likely that they would perceive their behaviour as fundamentally different from their peers

(B) for children whose parents also experienced such terrors in childhood, they were more likely than other children prone to night terrors to perceive their behaviour as fundamentally different from their peers'

(C) when children had parents who had also experienced such terrors in childhood it was more likely for them to be perceiving their behaviour as different from that of their peers'

(D) that children whose parents had also experienced such terrors in childhood were more likely than other children prone to night terrors to perceive their behaviour as fundamentally different from their peers'

(E) that when children had parents who had also experienced such terrors in childhood they were more likely to be perceiving behavior that differed from their peers
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How to use but-

1. Clause + COMMA + BUT + Clause, where the clauses are independent.

On the basis of this, the options A and B can be eliminated.

2.The pronoun "they" has more than one antecedents.

A and E can be eliminated for ambiguous "they".

3. A clause cannot be antecedent of "it".

It was more likely....

What does "it" refer to?

"15 percent of them experienced night terrors" is the logical antecedent of "it". Here, a clause has been used as an antecedent of it.

We can eliminate A and C.

It was a tricky question, not an easy one.
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The question doesn't make sense....the answer says children's experienced nightmares regarding children's parents. there is definite flaw

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Are we sure that the underlying part starts from the word "but" ? I really don't think so...it doesn't make any sense at all.

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This question is really 900++

I really didnt get it.
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19 May 2014, 16:27
I don't get this question at all. It seems awkward

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19 May 2014, 16:46
I think you typed the question in wrong.

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26 May 2014, 09:32
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I think you typed the question in wrong.

OK then lets all ask Honchos to type the freaking question correctly aight?

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07 Jul 2014, 01:57
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This question is really 900++

I really didnt get it.

LOL ... 900 ++

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07 Aug 2014, 12:03
what sort of usage is "but that"?

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09 Aug 2014, 06:49
It took me 2.45 mins to understand and answer this question :D

A) 1) Pronoun “they” is ambiguously used to refer to children or parents. 2) Lack of “;” between 2 independent clauses: “A study...” and “it was more likely…” 3) the use of “it was more likely that” change the meaning of the sentence  Incorrect
B) 1) The lack of comma prior to “but” indicates that the portion relating to “but” will not be an independent clause. If there is another clause, “;” or other conjunction should be used to connect the first non-underlined clause and the second underlined clause. However, the underlined portion relating to but is a clause and connected to the first clause by a comma.  Incorrect sentence structure.
C) 1) Incorrect structure: clause 1 but when S + V (when S+V = an independent clause). However, “but” in the non-underlined portion is not preceded by a comma. Thus, an independent clause cannot immediately follow “but”. 2) “that of their peers' ” = double possessive. 3) the use of “it was more likely that” change the meaning of the sentence  Incorrect
D) Correctly describes two results of the study: A study… showed that X but that Y. Pronoun “they” correctly refers to children. Correct comparison  Correct.
E) 1) Pronoun “they” is ambiguous. 2) Wrong comparison: 3) “behavior” is compared with “their peers”. 4) “to perceive” is prefer to “to be perceiving”  Incorrect

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05 Jan 2015, 15:00
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Discussion:
How to use but-

1. Clause + COMMA + BUT + Clause, where the clauses are independent.

On the basis of this, the options A and B can be eliminated.

2.The pronoun "they" has more than one antecedents.

A and E can be eliminated for ambiguous "they".

3. A clause cannot be antecedent of "it".

It was more likely....

What does "it" refer to?

"15 percent of them experienced night terrors" is the logical antecedent of "it". Here, a clause has been used as an antecedent of it.

We can eliminate A and C.

It was a tricky question, not an easy one.

I think there is a problem with the question because the first option does not match the underlined part. Answer choice D now reads:

A study done on children under the age of twelve showed that 15 percent of them experienced night terrors that children whose parents had also experienced such terrors in childhood were more likely than other children prone to night terrors to perceive their behaviour as fundamentally different from their peers'
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14 Jun 2015, 19:47
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A study done on children under the age of twelve showed that 15 percent of them experienced night terrors but for children whose parents had also experienced such terrors in childhood it was more likely that they would perceive their behaviour as fundamentally different from their peers.

(A) for children whose parents had also experienced such terrors in childhood it was more likely that they would perceive their behaviour as fundamentally different from their peers

(B) for children whose parents also experienced such terrors in childhood, they were more likely than other children prone to night terrors to perceive their behaviour as fundamentally different from their peers'

(C) when children had parents who had also experienced such terrors in childhood it was more likely for them to be perceiving their behaviour as different from that of their peers'

(D) that children whose parents had also experienced such terrors in childhood were more likely than other children prone to night terrors to perceive their behaviour as fundamentally different from their peers'

(E) that when children had parents who had also experienced such terrors in childhood they were more likely to be perceiving behavior that differed from their peers

I was able to narrow the answers down to A & D.
I eliminated A,B and E on the basis of logical comparisons.
(A) for children whose parents had also experienced such terrors in childhood it was more likely that they would perceive their behaviour as fundamentally different from their peers - children's behavior should be compared with behaviors of peers, not the peers themselves.
D & E make similar errors.
Between A and D, I went for A simply because D did not seem to make sense.
A study (done on children~~~) showed that 15 percent experienced night terrors but (showed) that - why is "but" - contradiction - necessary here?
I'd like to also mention that I too struggled grasping the meaning of the sentence.

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(A) for children whose parents had also experienced such terrors in childhood it was more likely that they would perceive their behaviour as fundamentally different from their peers

(B) for children whose parents also experienced such terrors in childhood, they were more likely than other children prone to night terrors to perceive their behaviour as fundamentally different from their peers'

(C) when children had parents who had also experienced such terrors in childhood it was more likely for them to be perceiving their behaviour as different from that of their peers'

(D) that children whose parents had also experienced such terrors in childhood were more likely than other children prone to night terrors to perceive their behaviour as fundamentally different from their peers'

(E) that when children had parents who had also experienced such terrors in childhood they were more likely to be perceiving behavior that differed from their peers

We can easily eliminate A,C and E because more is followed by "as"... more should always be followed by "than".
From D and B
B can be eliminated because "for" introduces a sub-ordinate clause that has to be followed by a comma.
FANBOYS(For,And, Neither, But, Or,Yet,So) these boys should always be followed by a comma when joining the subordinate clause.

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there are many errors in the wrong sentences. The ones I followed are as below
More must be followed by than. Hence A, C & E are wrong.
The study showed 2 things that xxxxxxxx & that xxxxxx, Between B & D only D follows correct parallelism with that.
Hence D is correct
Another reason to eliminate B is THEY. the use of pronoun is ambiguous.

(A) for children whose parents had also experienced such terrors in childhood it was more likely that they would perceive their behaviour as fundamentally different from their peers

(B) for children whose parents also experienced such terrors in childhood, they were more likely than other children prone to night terrors to perceive their behaviour as fundamentally different from their peers'

(C) when children had parents who had also experienced such terrors in childhood it was more likely for them to be perceiving their behaviour as different from that of their peers'

(D) that children whose parents had also experienced such terrors in childhood were more likely than other children prone to night terrors to perceive their behaviour as fundamentally different from their peers'

(E) that when children had parents who had also experienced such terrors in childhood they were more likely to be perceiving behavior that differed from their peers

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18 Oct 2016, 06:26
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there are many errors in the wrong sentences. The ones I followed are as below
More must be followed by than. Hence A, C & E are wrong.
The study showed 2 things that xxxxxxxx & that xxxxxx, Between B & D only D follows correct parallelism with that.
Hence D is correct
Another reason to eliminate B is THEY. the use of pronoun is ambiguous.

(A) for children whose parents had also experienced such terrors in childhood it was more likely that they would perceive their behaviour as fundamentally different from their peers

(B) for children whose parents also experienced such terrors in childhood, they were more likely than other children prone to night terrors to perceive their behaviour as fundamentally different from their peers'

(C) when children had parents who had also experienced such terrors in childhood it was more likely for them to be perceiving their behaviour as different from that of their peers'

(D) that children whose parents had also experienced such terrors in childhood were more likely than other children prone to night terrors to perceive their behaviour as fundamentally different from their peers'

(E) that when children had parents who had also experienced such terrors in childhood they were more likely to be perceiving behavior that differed from their peers

You are right, the correct intended answer is D; However, the underline part has but, and we do not have this but in D; thus D is also incorrect.

Let me rephrase it: the original sentence is wrongly underlined.
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IMO this question is incorrectly framed if D is the OA.
Because in D, we have 'likely' and 'prone' which are redundant. If 'prone' is to characterize children then it should have been 'children who are prone to night terrors'

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IMO this question is incorrectly framed if D is the OA.
Because in D, we have 'likely' and 'prone' which are redundant. If 'prone' is to characterize children then it should have been 'children who are prone to night terrors'

No, this is not correct. In your example the modifier for "children" is a relative pronoun modifier: "who are prone....". However the modifier could as well be a direct adjective phrase: "prone....". In option D "prone" is used as a direct adjective for "children".

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@p00rv@ wrote:
IMO this question is incorrectly framed if D is the OA.
Because in D, we have 'likely' and 'prone' which are redundant. If 'prone' is to characterize children then it should have been 'children who are prone to night terrors'

…children whose parents had also experienced such terrors in childhood were more likely than other children prone to night …

More likely refers to children whose parents had also experienced such terrors in childhood

prone to night terrors refers to other children.

So we are talking about different children, and the comparison is not redundant.
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