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My bet is on 'A'...

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Here the correct answer is A. The phrase "A surge in new home sales and a drop in weekly unemployment claims" should be followed by a plural verb due to the word "and". So it has to be "suggest" rather than "suggests". A and C are close but select A as C is wordy.
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I am quoting this from OG12


A surge in new home sales and a drop in weekly
unemployment claims suggest that the economy might
not be as weak as some analysts previously thought.



(A) claims suggest that the economy might not be
as weak as some analysts previously thought
(B) claims suggests that the economy might not be
so weak as some analysts have previously
thought
(C) claims suggest that the economy might not be
as weak as have been previously thought by
some analysts
(D) claims, suggesting about the economy that it
might not be so weak as previously thought by
some analysts
(E) claims, suggesting the economy might not be as
weak as previously thought to be by some
analysts



Agreement; Grammatical construction

The plural subject of this sentence (surge and drop)
requires a plural verb, suggest. Th e object of this
verb, the clause beginning with that, should be
presented in as clear and direct a manner as
possible.


A Correct. Th e plural subject is matched with
a plural verb.
B Th e singular verb suggests does not match
the plural subject of the sentence.
C Th e sentence off ers no plural subject to fi t
the passive verb have been thought.
D Th is construction is awkward, wordy, and
imprecise; it also lacks a main verb; there is
no reason to use passive voice, and suggesting
about the economy that it might … introduces
extra words that contribute nothing to the
meaning of this sentence fragment.
E Th e passive construction makes this
unnecessarily wordy; the lack of a main verb
makes this a sentence fragment.

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I am quoting this from OG12


A surge in new home sales and a drop in weekly
unemployment claims suggest that the economy might
not be as weak as some analysts previously thought.



(A) claims suggest that the economy might not be
as weak as some analysts previously thought
(B) claims suggests that the economy might not be
so weak as some analysts have previously
thought
(C) claims suggest that the economy might not be
as weak as have been previously thought by
some analysts
(D) claims, suggesting about the economy that it
might not be so weak as previously thought by
some analysts
(E) claims, suggesting the economy might not be as
weak as previously thought to be by some
analysts



Agreement; Grammatical construction

The plural subject of this sentence (surge and drop)
requires a plural verb, suggest. Th e object of this
verb, the clause beginning with that, should be
presented in as clear and direct a manner as
possible.


A Correct. Th e plural subject is matched with
a plural verb.
B Th e singular verb suggests does not match
the plural subject of the sentence.
C Th e sentence off ers no plural subject to fi t
the passive verb have been thought.
D Th is construction is awkward, wordy, and
imprecise; it also lacks a main verb; there is
no reason to use passive voice, and suggesting
about the economy that it might … introduces
extra words that contribute nothing to the
meaning of this sentence fragment.
E Th e passive construction makes this
unnecessarily wordy; the lack of a main verb
makes this a sentence fragment.


What they are trying to say is that there is a plural subject in this sentence (two subjects). The "surge" itself is not plural, but the "surge and drop" together is a plural subject since they are two items.

It's kinda like this:

Tom and Jerry suggest that we stay.

Tom is singular and Jerry is singular, but together they are plural therefore we use "suggest"

Likewise,
A surge and a drop suggest that . . .

Surge is singular and drop is singular, but together they are plural

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Here the subject is a compound subject (Or Plural Subject) .

a surge .... and a drop ... together is the compound subject . "And" can make two singular subjects a compound subject. Plural Subject takes plural verb. Hope its clear.

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Thanks! It was helpful. I missed out on such a simple rule. " Tom and Jerry" :)

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13. A surge in new home sales and a drop in weekly
unemployment claims suggest that the economy might
not be as weak as some analysts previously thought.
(A) claims suggest that the economy might not be
as weak as some analysts previously thought
(B) claims suggests that the economy might not be
so weak as some analysts have previously
thought
(C) claims suggest that the economy might not be
as weak as have been previously thought by
some analysts
(D) claims, suggesting about the economy that it
might not be so weak as previously thought by
some analysts
(E) claims, suggesting the economy might not be as
weak as previously thought to be by some
analysts


The OG says (A) as correct answer.
While (A) is correct
But about (C) it says "have been thought" does not have plural subject.I say "some analysts" is a plural subject.So what's the problem with option (C)
Simply saying passive voice is not preferred is also not correct.

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Everyone here has given wrong reason for eliminating C, "have" is wrong because it refers "to an idea" that was thought by analysts. for same reason following sentence is incorrect A rise in robberies suggests that the gangs might not be as weak as have been previously thought by some politicians.


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A surge in new home sales and a drop in weekly unemployment claims suggest that the economy might not be as weak as some analysts previously thought.

A. claims suggest that the economy might not be as weak as some analysts previously thought
B. claims suggests that the economy might not be so weak as some analysts have previously thought
C. claims suggest that the economy might not be as weak as have been previously thought by some analysts
D. claims, suggesting about the economy that it might not be so weak as previously thought by some analysts
E. claims, suggesting the economy might not be as weak as previously thought to be by some analysts


A surge and a drop requires a plural verb. Hence, B is out.
D and E are sentence fragments.
C is also out because "have been thought" is not paired with a subject. Also, simple past tense is preferred.
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A surge in new home sales and a drop in weekly unemployment claims suggest that the economy might not be as weak as some analysts previously thought.

A. claims suggest that the economy might not be as weak as some analysts previously thought
B. claims suggests that the economy might not be so weak as some analysts have previously thought
C. claims suggest that the economy might not be as weak as have been previously thought by some analysts
D. claims, suggesting about the economy that it might not be so weak as previously thought by some analysts
E. claims, suggesting the economy might not be as weak as previously thought to be by some analysts


In command subjunctive such as demand ,dictate mandate,suggest urge.........verb should in singular present form.According to manhattan sc correction.Example : We suggest that he be promoted

Here in option (A)claims suggest that the economy might not be as weak as some analysts previously thought -the use of might not be is right?

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In command subjunctive such as demand ,dictate mandate,suggest urge.........verb should in singular present form.According to manhattan sc correction.Example : We suggest that he be promoted


this is not correct !!
we propose that the school board disband
not disbands


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Here in option (A)claims suggest that the economy might not be as weak as some analysts previously thought -the use of might not be is right?


yes it is correct !!

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In command subjunctive such as demand ,dictate mandate,suggest urge.........verb should in singular present form.According to manhattan sc correction.Example : We suggest that he be promoted


this is not correct !!
we propose that the school board disband
not disbands
here suggest is command subjunctive.so how can the use of "claims suggest that the economy might not be as weak as some analysts previously though " be right.Can u explain me if i am wrong?

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here suggest is command subjunctive.so how can the use of "claims suggest that the economy might not be as weak as some analysts previously though " be right.Can u explain me if i am wrong?


u r making a faulty interpretation .here suggest is not command subjunctive .
i suggest that this be done ------> this is command subjunctive

in this sentence A surge in new home sales and a drop in weekly unemployment claims is not suggesting that something ought to be done .all it is doing is it is telling us some kind of a trend ....plz read out the sentence of command subjunctive that i have written and read this one out ..u will get what i am trying to convey

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here suggest is command subjunctive.so how can the use of "claims suggest that the economy might not be as weak as some analysts previously though " be right.Can u explain me if i am wrong?


u r making a faulty interpretation .here suggest is not command subjunctive .
i suggest that this be done ------> this is command subjunctive

in this sentence A surge in new home sales and a drop in weekly unemployment claims is not suggesting that something ought to be done .all it is doing is it is telling us some kind of a trend ....plz read out the sentence of command subjunctive that i have written and read this one out ..u will get what i am trying to convey

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OG 13 SC - q16

A surge in new home sales and a drop in weekly unemployment claims suggest that the economy might not be as weak as some analysts previouslythought.

A. claims suggest that the economy might not be as weak as some analysts previously thought
B. claims suggests that the economy might not be so weak as some analysts have previously thought
C. claims suggest that the economy might not be as weak as have been previously thought by some analysts
D. claims, suggesting about the economy that it might not be so weak as previously thought by some analysts
E. claims, suggesting the economy might not be as weak as previously thought to be by some analysts

My Query

in the part "as weak as some analysts previously thought" - I am not clear about the structure of the comparison weak vs some analysts. Would be obliged if somebody could explain the structure.

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OG 13 SC - q16

A surge in new home sales and a drop in weekly unemployment claims suggest that the economy might not be as weak as some analysts previouslythought.

A. claims suggest that the economy might not be as weak as some analysts previously thought
B. claims suggests that the economy might not be so weak as some analysts have previously thought
C. claims suggest that the economy might not be as weak as have been previously thought by some analysts
D. claims, suggesting about the economy that it might not be so weak as previously thought by some analysts
E. claims, suggesting the economy might not be as weak as previously thought to be by some analysts

My Query

in the part "as weak as some analysts previously thought" - I am not clear about the structure of the comparison weak vs some analysts. Would be obliged if somebody could explain the structure.

Thank you


The the comparison is not
"the economy might not be as weak as some analysts"<== this would not make sense
the comparison is
"the economy might not be as weak as some analysts previously thought "<== correct, and it means that the analysts predicted a weaker economy than the current one.

Hope it's clear
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OG 13 SC - q16

A surge in new home sales and a drop in weekly unemployment claims suggest that the economy might not be as weak as some analysts previouslythought.

A. claims suggest that the economy might not be as weak as some analysts previously thought
B. claims suggests that the economy might not be so weak as some analysts have previously thought
C. claims suggest that the economy might not be as weak as have been previously thought by some analysts
D. claims, suggesting about the economy that it might not be so weak as previously thought by some analysts
E. claims, suggesting the economy might not be as weak as previously thought to be by some analysts

My Query

in the part "as weak as some analysts previously thought" - I am not clear about the structure of the comparison weak vs some analysts. Would be obliged if somebody could explain the structure.

Thank you


comparison is:

economy might not be as weak as the economy previously thought by some anslysts
these type of structure is correct .
let me know if you still have a doubt.
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The subject is plural here because of the use of 'and'. so let us keep A and C. Eliminate D and E because the sentences seem to be fragment.

Because, in D and E there are two subjects 'surge' and 'drop' and a sentence should have a verb that makes sense with the subject.

Now between A and D-
for me the use of 'as have been previously thought' changes the voice and structure of the sentence. So the best ans is A
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Hi, I agree to you its a absolutely correct, that's a surge in new home sales and a drop in weekly unemployment...
And we know there is lot of rates for all the things, so that sentence is absolutely right....Thanks...

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