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New post 16 Mar 2017, 00:51
AR15J wrote:
Hi Expert,

I read your posts for this question and understood the sentence well. Thanks

I understand that the usage of have been in choice C is incorrect.

choice C-- claims suggest that the economy might not be as weak as have been previously thought by some analysts

Just wanted to clear one doubt on eclipses.

If i write the eclipses, will the sentence be


claims suggest that the economy might not be as weak as it<economy> have been previously thought by some analysts

or

claims suggest that the economy might not be as weak as it<economy> might have been previously thought by some analysts

How to determine which is the intended one?


It should be the one highlighted above. Notice when you say "might have been previously thought", it changes the meaning. It implies They might have thought.

So, we are not sure whether they actually thought about it.

As per the original meaning, we must say they thought something (Say X) previously but now it might be Y such that Y<X.

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AR15J wrote:
Hi Expert,

I read your posts for this question and understood the sentence well. Thanks

I understand that the usage of have been in choice C is incorrect.

choice C-- claims suggest that the economy might not be as weak as have been previously thought by some analysts

Just wanted to clear one doubt on eclipses.

If i write the eclipses, will the sentence be


claims suggest that the economy might not be as weak as it<economy> have been previously thought by some analysts

or

claims suggest that the economy might not be as weak as it<economy> might have been previously thought by some analysts

How to determine which is the intended one?


Your query has been well explained by abhimahna. Absence of the word "might" indicates that the first meaning is intended - if the second meaning is intended, the word "might" must be there.
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A surge in new home sales and a drop in weekly unemployment claims suggest that the economy might not be as weak as some analysts previously thought.

A. claims suggest that the economy might not be as weak as some analysts previously thought
B. claims suggests that the economy might not be so weak as some analysts have previously thought
C. claims suggest that the economy might not be as weak as have been previously thought by some analysts
D. claims, suggesting about the economy that it might not be so weak as previously thought by some analysts
E. claims, suggesting the economy might not be as weak as previously thought to be by some analysts


A is correct answer.
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A surge in new home sales and a drop in weekly unemployment claims suggest that the economy might not be as weak as some analysts previously thought.

A. claims suggest that the economy might not be as weak as some analysts previously thought
B. claims suggests that the economy might not be so weak as some analysts have previously thought
C. claims suggest that the economy might not be as weak as have been previously thought by some analysts
D. claims, suggesting about the economy that it might not be so weak as previously thought by some analysts
E. claims, suggesting the economy might not be as weak as previously thought to be by some analysts


A Correct.
B The number of the verb "suggests" is wrong.
C The number of the verb "have been" is wrong.
D This sentence has a fragment.
E This sentence has a fragment.
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A surge in new home sales and a drop in weekly unemployment claims suggest that the economy might not be as weak as some analysts previously thought.

'AND' always makes the subject plural as it joins two or more nouns together making the main subject as compound subject.

A surge in new home sales AND a drop in weekly unemployment claims suggest (plural verb) that (acts as a connector) the economy might not be as weak as some analysts previously thought.

Correct idioms: as...........as (correctly used here)
Adverb "previously" correctly modifies verb/ action "thought".

There is no error in the sentence.

Errors with the choices:

A. claims suggest that the economy might not be as weak as some analysts previously thought
Correct
B. claims suggests that the economy might not be so weak as some analysts have previously thought
We know that the subject is plural (as discussed already). Thus the singular verb suggests does not agree in number.
The correct idiom is as.........as and not so..........as.
Use of present perfect tense have thought is incorrect as the action of thinking is done in the past (clear by the use of adverb previously)

C. claims suggest that the economy might not be as weak as have been previously thought by some analysts
Same verb tense error as in choice B.
Present perfect tense is incorrect here.

D. claims, suggesting about the economy that it might not be so weak as previously thought by some analysts
There is no verb for the subject of the sentence.
'ing' words do not act as verbs on their own. They need a helping verb such as is, am, are, has, have,....in order to act as verb.

E. claims, suggesting the economy might not be as weak as previously thought to be by some analysts
Same error as in choice D
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A surge in new home sales and a drop in weekly unemployment claims suggest that the economy might not be as weak as some analysts previously thought.

(A) claims suggest that the economy might not be as weak as some analysts previously thought
(B) claims suggests that the economy might not be so weak as some analysts have previously thought
(C) claims suggest that the economy might not be as weak as have been previously thought by some analysts
(D) claims, suggesting about the economy that it might not be so weak as previously thought by some analysts
(E) claims, suggesting the economy might not be as weak as previously thought to be by some analysts

D, E are out as its a sentence fragment because of lack of verb
B out as "suggests" is incorrect as we need "suggest"
Between A and C, "have been" in option C is incorrect as there is no plural subject in the sentence.
Therefore A is Correct

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The original sentence uses the correct plural form 'suggest' since 'sales' and 'claims' are plural. Notice that the idiom as something as is also correctly used. For this reason eliminate B,D and E.

A surge in new home sales and a drop in weekly unemployment claims suggest that the economy might not be as weak as some analysts previously thought.

With C, as weak as have been previously thought by some analysts , the word previously is a clear indication that the action of 'thinking' happened in the past and is verbose and incorrect.

We are only left with A
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"A surge and a drop" are plural?
I need an expert view on this.

What is given: A surge {in new home sales and a drop in weekly unemployment claims} suggest that the economy might not be as weak as some analysts previously thought.

What I gathered: A surge **** suggests that the economy might not be as weak as some analysts previously thought.

Please help with this.
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"A surge and a drop" are plural?
I need an expert view on this.

What is given: A surge {in new home sales and a drop in weekly unemployment claims} suggest that the economy might not be as weak as some analysts previously thought.

What I gathered: A surge **** suggests that the economy might not be as weak as some analysts previously thought.

Please help with this.


I was wrong in my earlier analysis.
Imo, there are two parts here that are suggesting something.
Consider the two parts ' the surge in blah blah... and drop in blah blah'. These are 2 parts and hence must use the plural form 'suggest'.

Ex: A bag of apples and a box of oranges are kept on the table. This example sentence is of a similar structure as the one in question.

Also, how can you have a surge of drop in unemployment claims? Doesn't make sense. Here surge and drop are used as contrast.

Don't you agree?
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amitpandey25, if you have a compound subject (X and Y), you can never cut out one of the items. The subject is "a surge and a drop," and not just "a surge." As sasyaharry suggests, we can't say that the surge was in "home sales and a drop," so there's no choice but to include "a drop" in the subject. At this point, we can only have a singular verb if the subject is somehow interpreted as singular. This works if the subject can reasonably be interpreted as one thing ("Research and development for the new plane was expensive"), but this is very rare.
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A wins - Subject verb agreement and the correct use of the idiom "X is not as weak as Y"

Plural subject “a surge in sales and a drop in unemployment claims” agrees with the plural subject "suggests"
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is unemployemnt claims a word? i thought it is the verb
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claims can obviously be a verb, but not in this case; here it is a noun (and unemployment is an adjective).

The usage here is similar to insurance claim.
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Another way to discern the error is to notice that when the conjunction 'and' is used, the subject always has a plural verb.
The subjects are 'a surge in new home sales and a drop in weekly unemployment' , and the corresponding verb is 'suggest' which is plural.
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Hello Everyone,

All the answer choices uses the phrase unemployment claims. This is a plural noun entity.

Hence, the verb has to be plural suggest for this plural phrase at least.


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A is correct
C is close but too wordy
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I got the answer right but wanted to understand about the word "claims" here. Is it not a verb?
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I got the answer right but wanted to understand about the word "claims" here. Is it not a verb?



Hello santro789,


I will be glad to help you out with this one. :-)

A surge in new home sales and a drop in weekly unemployment claims suggest that the economy might not be as weak as some analysts previously thought.


(Subjects = blue, Verbs = green)


The word claims is NOT a verb in this sentence. It acts as a plural noun entity.

It will be grammatically incorrect to place two verbs - claims and suggest - one after the other.


Hope this helps. :-)
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A surge in new home sales and a drop in weekly unemployment claims suggest that the economy might not be as weak as some analysts previously thought.

A. claims suggest that the economy might not be as weak as some analysts previously thought
B. claims suggests that the economy might not be so weak as some analysts have previously thought - plural verb "suggest" is needed for plural noun "A surge in new home sales and a drop in weekly unemployment claims"
C. claims suggest that the economy might not be as weak as have been previously thought by some analysts
D. claims, suggesting about the economy that it might not be so weak as previously thought by some analysts fragment and also so week as is wrong idiom
E. claims, suggesting the economy might not be as weak as previously thought to be by some analysts fragment



I went through all the explanations and still not clear on why correct choice is A and not C.
C -
1.Some folks suggested that as weak as compares two clauses and thus 2nd clause " have been previously....." is missing subject
2.Some said that have been is the wrong verb tense as previously is given so it must be past tense only.

Can some expert please help clarify my doubts on why C is actually wrong and why A is correct?

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I went through all the explanations and still not clear on why correct choice is A and not C.
C -
1.Some folks suggested that as weak as compares two clauses and thus 2nd clause " have been previously....." is missing subject
2.Some said that have been is the wrong verb tense as previously is given so it must be past tense only.

Can some expert please help clarify my doubts on why C is actually wrong and why A is correct?

Thanks,



Hello lakshya,

I will be glad to help you out with this one. :-)

Choice A very succinctly presents the intended meaning through correct grammar.

Take a close look at Choice C. It uses the adverb previously. This word is used for an event that has taken place in the past. So the action that has already taken place in past, how can we use present perfect tense for that action?

Also active voice construction in Choice A is mush better than passive voice construction in Choice C as active voice constructions are precise (direct)and concise. Active voice structures present the meaning in a better way than passive voice structures.


Hope this helps. :-)
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