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# A Swiss government panel recommended that the country sell

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16 Jun 2017, 02:38
A Swiss government panel recommended that the country sell about half of its gold reserves and this raised fears of other countries that do the same and inundate the market.

A. reserves and this raised fears of other countries that
B. reserves, which, as a result, raised fears of other countries that
C. reserves, as a result, they feared that other countries would
D. reserves, with fears raised that other countries would
E. reserves, raising fears that other countries would
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17 Jun 2017, 00:09
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03 Jul 2017, 00:19
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Using with clause as a modifier is incorrect here.

Also, it is trying to mean gold reserves were with fear that...

Obviously, how can reserves have fear of anything? Hence, D is Incorrect.

I hope that makes sense.

Hi abhimahna, Thanks for your response.

So in this structure CLAUSE + comma + with modifier, with modifier is an adverbial modifier and must modify the action of the previous clause. Here the action is "sell" and the result of that action is -- fears were raised, so in this context the "with modifier" might make sense. I think "with modifier" here cannot modify gold reserves because of the presence of the comma. What do you think?

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03 Jul 2017, 04:25
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Hi abhimahna, Thanks for your response.

So in this structure CLAUSE + comma + with modifier, with modifier is an adverbial modifier and must modify the action of the previous clause. Here the action is "sell" and the result of that action is -- fears were raised, so in this context the "with modifier" might make sense. I think "with modifier" here cannot modify gold reserves because of the presence of the comma. What do you think?

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Hi yt770 ,

No, your reasoning is incorrect my friend. with phrase here is not modifying the action of the previous clause.

With clause can modify gold reserves here.

Be very careful while using "with phrase".
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03 Jul 2017, 10:57
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No, your reasoning is incorrect my friend. with phrase here is not modifying the action of the previous clause.

With clause can modify gold reserves here.

Be very careful while using "with phrase".

Hi abhimahna,

Thanks for your response. How did you know that with phrase here is not modifying the action of the previous clause? Can you explain a little bit?

There are numerous official examples in which with modifier has been used to modify actions.

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03 Jul 2017, 11:29
yt770 wrote:

Hi abhimahna,

Thanks for your response. How did you know that with phrase here is not modifying the action of the previous clause? Can you explain a little bit?

There are numerous official examples in which with modifier has been used to modify actions.

Thanks much!

Hi yt770 ,

The country sell about half of its gold reserves, with fears raised that other countries would do the same and inundate the market.

They sell something, with fears raised..

Do you really think this sentence is making sense? Fears raised? Whose fears were raised? Was selling raising the fears?

The better way to say this is:

They sell something, raising fears that ... Now, this is the best way to provide the idea.

There is alot of awkwardness in this sentence. Does that make sense?
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17 Jul 2017, 11:11
Great explanation, Nevernevergiveup!
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10 Nov 2017, 18:41
Contrary to popular opinion, I think both D and E are correct. There's plenty of cases where ",with" modifies an entire clause in GMATPrep. Pretty sure this question won't be on the exam due to this exact ambiguity.
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28 Nov 2017, 07:45
A Swiss government panel recommended that the country sell about half of its gold reserves and this raised fears of other countries that do the same and inundate the market.

A. reserves and this raised fears of other countries that - this needs to followed by a noun
B. reserves, which, as a result, raised fears of other countries that - which incorrectly refers to reserves
C. reserves, as a result, they feared that other countries would - no antecedent for they
D. reserves, with fears raised that other countries would - "with fears raised" leaves it pretty unclear as to whose fears are raised.
Is it "The Swiss government"? That's kind of illogical...why would they make this move with its own fears that it could cause a bigger problem. If that were the intent of the sentence you'd have to use a transition like "despite fears" to show that the government had fears, but still decided to make that decision.

Is it "the country"? If so, that makes it part of the recommendation ("you should sell half your gold with fear!") and that's not really logical either.
So I'd say it's a two-part reason: one, there really isn't a clear subject of "with fears raised" and two, there isn't a logical subject for it either. The modifier "raising fears" in E assigns "raising fears" to the action, and that makes a lot of sense. The Swiss made this decision, and the decision raised fears around the world that this could lead to a major problem.

E. reserves, raising fears that other countries would - Correct

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28 Nov 2017, 12:18
CristianJuarez wrote:
Hi Nevernevergiveup, GMATNinja,

Please your help. I don't get why ,with is wrong. Here is another question (I think its actually a gmatprep one) that uses the mentioned construction: https://gmatclub.com/forum/visitors-to- ... 51789.html

Besides that, is there a problem with "fears raised that". Besides the passive voice, is 'that' modifying 'raised' wrong? If it is, why?

Hello CristianJuarez,

I am not sure if you still have this doubt. Here is the explanation nonetheless.

The way the expression with fear raised has been used in Choice D, it fails to convey that the recommendation of the Swiss government panel has raised fears. This is the intended meaning that has been amply expressed in the original sentence although through incorrect grammar.

Choice D seems to suggest that the country sell half of its gold reserves with fear raised as if the country's fear should be raised. So clearly, use of the with phrase does not convey the intended meaning.

Hope this helps.
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21 Jul 2019, 02:15
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A Swiss government panel recommended that the country sell about half of its gold reserves and this raised fears of other countries that do the same and inundate the market.

A. reserves and this raised fears of other countries that
B. reserves, which, as a result, raised fears of other countries that
C. reserves, as a result, they feared that other countries would
D. reserves, with fears raised that other countries would
E. reserves, raising fears that other countries would

in choice a, "this" is inferior but not incorrect. in many problems in official source, "this" appears in all answer choices , including OA. so, caution with "this".

"fears of other countries" is wrong. this error is typical on gmat. we can use noun or clause with "fears" but we need a logic

fear of +noun: the fears of fire are clear
we can say "fears of the big and dangerous countries".

if the fears are about an action, we use "that-clause".
fears that other countries would do something.

inhere, the intended meaning is fears of an action that other countries would do. if we say fears of other countries, this is not logic. why the fears of other countries? the context gives no clue that other countries is dangerous.
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03 Aug 2019, 04:08
okdongdong wrote:
A Swiss government panel recommended that the country sell about half of its gold reserves and this raised fears of other countries that do the same and inundate the market.

A. reserves and this raised fears of other countries that
B. reserves, which, as a result, raised fears of other countries that
C. reserves, as a result, they feared that other countries would
D. reserves, with fears raised that other countries would
E. reserves, raising fears that other countries would

permit me to post second time with different idea.
why choice d is wrong?

choice d make meaning mistake. it is unclear who or what raise fears,so, the meaning can be " I raise fears ". the meaning can be
".... reserves, with me raising fears that other countries would...".

because choice d show no agent who raise fear, the agent can be I. if "I" is put into the sentence, the sentence become not logic.

so , choice d is wrong.
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04 Dec 2019, 08:27
It is still not clear for me. I eliminated A, B, and C. Between D and E I eliminated E because I think it is not Swiss government panel that raises fears but it is their recommendation. Therefore, the modifier is not consistent with the subject of the main clause. That is why I thought E is worse than D! Could you please clarify it for me?
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Besides that, is there a problem with "fears raised that". Besides the passive voice, is 'that' modifying 'raised' wrong? If it is, why?

I am not sure if you still have this doubt. Here is the explanation nonetheless.

The way the expression with fear raised has been used in Choice D, it fails to convey that the recommendation of the Swiss government panel has raised fears. This is the intended meaning that has been amply expressed in the original sentence although through incorrect grammar.

Choice D seems to suggest that the country sell half of its gold reserves with fear raised as if the country's fear should be raised. So clearly, use of the with phrase does not convey the intended meaning.

Hope this helps.
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