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I will go with C. I find E weak. It talks about payment to public employees. Payment may not be the only source of income. The argument talks about the income of these employees.
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Abolish taxes, and real taxpayers would find that their disposable incomes have increased. Abolish taxes, and public employees would find that their incomes have disappeared.
Which one of the following is a logical conclusion that depends on information in both of the statements above?
(A) Public offices should be abolished so that disposable incomes will rise.
(B) The only real taxpayers are those who would have more to spend if they did not pay taxes.
(C) Public employees are not real taxpayers.
(D) Public employees’ incomes should not be taxed since they come from taxes.
(E) If there were no taxes, then public employees could not be paid.
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(A) Public offices should be abolished so that disposable incomes will rise. irrelevant
(B) The only real taxpayers are those who would have more to spend if they did not pay taxes. illogical
(C) Public employees are not real taxpayers. chances are there waitlisted
(D) Public employees’ incomes should not be taxed since they come from taxes.irrelevant
(E) If there were no taxes, then public employees could not be paid.comes close

I think C and E are more relevant to the question but between C and E I chose E because from the statement it is obvious that if taxes are abolished public employees wouldn't have any income

and also the above statement doesn't clearly states that pubilc employee are not real tax payers
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I chose E but changed to C since, we have to consider both statments, choice E only considers the last statment. Additionally E is more of an inference other than a conclusion.
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I went with E.

The premise states that public employees salaries are funded with taxes (other possibilities like debt are slashed away).

However, public employees may have sources of rent (different from income) which may be taxable, converting them into real tax payers.
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jcampomar wrote:
I went with E.

The premise states that public employees salaries are funded with taxes (other possibilities like debt are slashed away).

However, public employees may have sources of rent (different from income) which may be taxable, converting them into real tax payers.


The problem with this is that you are assuming and utilizing your knowledge to introduce new concepts to the statements, one should always get back and only use what the question provides, if you use all of our knowledge in logic proofs like this we will made them just un-proof-able, and what is correctly concluded through logic for you will be different for any other human being that didn't knew this fact or any other you just included, that is why one should stay back to use general or personal knowledge to include as inputs to the logic proof and only use what the statements settle, that way you will assure there is only one correct answer
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Abolish taxes, and real taxpayers would find that their disposable incomes have increased. Abolish taxes, and public employees would find that their incomes have disappeared.

No tax = real taxpayers will have more income
No tax= Public employee will have no income.
Conclusion:- No tax = Any one who is a real taxpayer will see some increase in income except public employee who will not get any income.

Since after removing tax the public employee income is not increased, then it must be concluded thais employee are not real taxpayers.

OPTION C is the correct answer


Abolish taxes, and real taxpayers would find that their disposable incomes have increased. Abolish taxes, and public employees would find that their incomes have disappeared.

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Abolish taxes, and real taxpayers would find that their disposable incomes have increased. Abolish taxes, and public employees would find that their incomes have disappeared.

Which one of the following is a logical conclusion that depends on information in both of the statements above?

(A) Public offices should be abolished so that disposable incomes will rise.
(B) The only real taxpayers are those who would have more to spend if they did not pay taxes.
(C) Public employees are not real taxpayers.
(D) Public employees’ incomes should not be taxed since they come from taxes.
(E) If there were no taxes, then public employees could not be paid.
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Abolish taxes, and real taxpayers would find that their disposable incomes have increased. Abolish taxes, and public employees would find that their incomes have disappeared.

Which one of the following is a logical conclusion that depends on information in both of the statements above?

(A) Public offices should be abolished so that disposable incomes will rise.
----> does not come from the statements above, as no correlation between public offices and disposable incomes.

(B) The only real taxpayers are those who would have more to spend if they did not pay taxes.
----> expenditure, taxes correlation not discussed.

(C) Public employees are not real taxpayers.
---> if public employers had been real taxpayers then after abolishing taxes their disposable incomes would have increased.


(D) Public employees’ incomes should not be taxed since they come from taxes.
---> is not implied from the argument.

(E) If there were no taxes, then public employees could not be paid.
---> if we assume that the extra disposable income that the real taxpayers generate, is used to pay the public employees income then this could be a conclusion.
But, this introduces an assumption that is out of scope. Eliminated
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Hi Experts,

Though only C & E are contenders here, I am a bit confused why the OA is C. Isn't E using the information from both statements? Please help.
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Hi Experts,

Though only C & E are contenders here, I am a bit confused why the OA is C. Isn't E using the information from both statements? Please help.

Hello, Purvidebuka. If you examine the passage carefully, you will see that, based on the same condition—[if the government/we] abolish taxes—an outcome follows.

abolish taxes → real taxpayers would find that their disposable incomes have increased
abolish taxes → public employees would find that their incomes have disappeared

Since the question stem asks us to form a logical conclusion from both of the statements, we should be looking for a crossover in information from the right-hand side of the arrows above. If it helps:

nitya34 wrote:
Abolish taxes, and real taxpayers would find that their disposable incomes have increased. Abolish taxes, and public employees would find that their incomes have disappeared.

Which one of the following is a logical conclusion that depends on information in both of the statements above?

(C) Public employees are not real taxpayers.
(E) If there were no taxes, then public employees could not be paid.

The crux of the conclusion in (C) is, believe it or not, are not: both outcomes from the passage are represented. Answer choice (E) is a restatement of the second conditional statement only:

If there were no taxes—i.e. abolish taxes
public employees could not be paid—i.e. public employees would find that their incomes have disappeared

Thus, we can rule out (E) in favor of (C) as the answer to the question that is being asked.

Although I doubt this sort of question would appear as is on the GMAT™, it can still be useful for supplemental practice. Good luck with your studies.

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