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Abolish taxes, and real taxpayers would find that their disposable incomes have increased. Abolish taxes, and public employees would find that their incomes have disappeared.

Which one of the following is a logical conclusion that depends on information in both of the statements above?

(A) Public offices should be abolished so that disposable incomes will rise.
(B) The only real taxpayers are those who would have more to spend if they did not pay taxes.
(C) Public employees are not real taxpayers.
(D) Public employees’ incomes should not be taxed since they come from taxes.
(E) If there were no taxes, then public employees could not be paid.
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24 Feb 2009, 23:02
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Abolish taxes, and real taxpayers would find that their disposable incomes have increased. Abolish taxes, and public employees would find that their incomes have disappeared.

Which one of the following is a logical conclusion that depends on information in both of the statements above?

(A) Public offices should be abolished so that disposable incomes will rise.
(B) The only real taxpayers are those who would have more to spend if they did not pay taxes.
(C) Public employees are not real taxpayers.
(D) Public employees’ incomes should not be taxed since they come from taxes.
(E) If there were no taxes, then public employees could not be paid.

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24 Feb 2009, 23:24
The answer is C. I had already read this on another forum and seeing your post reminded me of it. Here is the link http://www.beatthegmat.com/1000-cr-t3249.html
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25 Feb 2009, 02:02
E is the inference that can be drawn from the stimulus.
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27 Feb 2009, 19:43
No doubt, E is the best choice.
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28 Feb 2009, 03:11
It shld be E indeed
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Abolish taxes, and real taxpayers would find that their disposable incomes have increased. Abolish taxes, and public employees would find that their incomes have disappeared.

Which one of the following is a logical conclusion that depends on information in both of the statements above?

(A) Public offices should be abolished so that disposable incomes will rise.
(B) The only real taxpayers are those who would have more to spend if they did not pay taxes.
(C) Public employees are not real taxpayers.
(D) Public employees’ incomes should not be taxed since they come from taxes.
(E) If there were no taxes, then public employees could not be paid.
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28 Feb 2009, 09:53
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Abolish taxes, and real taxpayers would find that their disposable incomes have increased. Abolish taxes, and public employees would find that their incomes have disappeared.

Which one of the following is a logical conclusion that depends on information in both of the statements above?

(A) Public offices should be abolished so that disposable incomes will rise.
(B) The only real taxpayers are those who would have more to spend if they did not pay taxes.
(C) Public employees are not real taxpayers.
(D) Public employees’ incomes should not be taxed since they come from taxes.
(E) If there were no taxes, then public employees could not be paid.

Hi mates,

I really find difficult to choose between C and E, however I'd go with C

If taxes are removed, real taxpayers will find that their incomes increase. If public employees find that their incomes decrease, that means that public employees are not real taxpayers.

I've not picked C because it doesn't say anything about real taxpayers, which are an important element of the structure.

However, it's true that C sounds very well... If I find a question like this... well, I'll flip a coin

OA and Source?

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I will go with C. I find E weak. It talks about payment to public employees. Payment may not be the only source of income. The argument talks about the income of these employees.
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28 Feb 2009, 23:22
But argument mentions "abolish taxez and the income disappears". If there were other sources other than taxes, then how cum income disappears?
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I will go with C. I find E weak. It talks about payment to public employees. Payment may not be the only source of income. The argument talks about the income of these employees.
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28 Feb 2009, 23:42
All choices except C and E are irrelevant.
I choose C, because it cannot be concluded from the context that public employees could not be paid from sources other than taxes, so E is not the best choice.
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Abolish taxes, and real taxpayers would find that their disposable incomes have increased. Abolish taxes, and public employees would find that their incomes have disappeared.
Which one of the following is a logical conclusion that depends on information in both of the statements above?
(A) Public offices should be abolished so that disposable incomes will rise.
(B) The only real taxpayers are those who would have more to spend if they did not pay taxes.
(C) Public employees are not real taxpayers.
(D) Public employees’ incomes should not be taxed since they come from taxes.
(E) If there were no taxes, then public employees could not be paid.

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The answer is C. I had already read this on another forum and seeing your post reminded me of it. Here is the link http://www.beatthegmat.com/1000-cr-t3249.html

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nitya34 wrote:
Abolish taxes, and real taxpayers would find that their disposable incomes have increased. Abolish taxes, and public employees would find that their incomes have disappeared.

Which one of the following is a logical conclusion that depends on information in both of the statements above?

(A) Public offices should be abolished so that disposable incomes will rise.
(B) The only real taxpayers are those who would have more to spend if they did not pay taxes.
(C) Public employees are not real taxpayers.
(D) Public employees’ incomes should not be taxed since they come from taxes.
(E) If there were no taxes, then public employees could not be paid.

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C

POE:
A is wrong; B is not true from the information given; C is not true, we don't know if Public employees pay taxes or not and their disposable income could have gone up as the other taxpayers while their total income is going down; D is wrong;

I think E is the best.
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(A) Public offices should be abolished so that disposable incomes will rise. irrelevant
(B) The only real taxpayers are those who would have more to spend if they did not pay taxes. illogical
(C) Public employees are not real taxpayers. chances are there waitlisted
(D) Public employees’ incomes should not be taxed since they come from taxes.irrelevant
(E) If there were no taxes, then public employees could not be paid.comes close

I think C and E are more relevant to the question but between C and E I chose E because from the statement it is obvious that if taxes are abolished public employees wouldn't have any income

and also the above statement doesn't clearly states that pubilc employee are not real tax payers
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IMO E. Since the two statements imply that taxes are the source of income for public employees
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I will go with C.
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Finally... a CR question that I asked correctly. I chose C over B. I don't why I re-read B a few times more than necessary. I guess I wanted to be sure about my choice.

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I chose E but changed to C since, we have to consider both statments, choice E only considers the last statment. Additionally E is more of an inference other than a conclusion.
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Abolish taxes, and real taxpayers would find that their disposable incomes have increased. Abolish taxes, and public employees would find that their incomes have disappeared.

Which one of the following is a logical conclusion that depends on information in both of the statements above?

(A) Public offices should be abolished so that disposable incomes will rise.
(B) The only real taxpayers are those who would have more to spend if they did not pay taxes.
(C) Public employees are not real taxpayers.
(D) Public employees’ incomes should not be taxed since they come from taxes.
(E) If there were no taxes, then public employees could not be paid.

E is very close but the question is very tricky, so take into account this:

It is true that E can be logically derived from the second statement. The issue here is that the question is asking for a logical conclusion that depends on both statements. E only depends on the second statement and the first does not provide any informations relevant to conclude E

C on the other hand is a conclusion that depends on both statements:

(Please excuse my english, these are not formal logic procedures but they provide a general idea)
Lets suppose real tax payers are public employees
Supposition: x is a real tax payer <-> x is a public employee
Taxes are abolished -> y is a real tax payer ^ y has its disposable income increased
Taxes are abolished -> z is a public employee ^ z has its income dessapear
Lets take the person A, A is a real tax payer
Taxes are abolished then:
A is a real tax payer ^ A has its disposable income increased
A is a public employee ^ A has its disposable income increased
But also
A is a public employee ^ A has its income dessapear
So A has its disposable income increased ^ A has its income dessapear

Since we reached a contradiction we conclude that real tax payers cannot be public employees since disposable income cannot increase if the income dissapears.

We reach a contradiction that depend on both statements to proof. Answer E is also right, but it is not what the question is asking, be careful with tricky questions.

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I went with E.

The premise states that public employees salaries are funded with taxes (other possibilities like debt are slashed away).

However, public employees may have sources of rent (different from income) which may be taxable, converting them into real tax payers.
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