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# Abolish taxes, and real taxpayers would find that their

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20. Abolish taxes, and real taxpayers would find that their disposable incomes have increased. Abolish taxes, and public employees would find that their incomes have disappeared. Which one of the following is a logical conclusion that depends on information in both of the statements above?

(A) Public offices should be abolished so that disposable incomes will rise. (B) The only real taxpayers are those who would have more to spend if they did not pay taxes.
(C) Public employees are not real taxpayers.
(D) Public employeesâ€™ incomes should not be taxed since they come from taxes.
(E) If there were no taxes, then public employees could not be paid.

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11 Aug 2004, 12:03
E, since the money for salaries of public employee come from common people

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11 Aug 2004, 12:51
I'd go with E. It was b/w C and E
C) We cannot conclude this. Public employees could still be real taxpayers. If taxes are abolished, they would have their disposable income increased. If taxes are abolished, they could not receive any salary for some reason other than not being a real taxpayer. The two reasons are independent of each other and no link can be established.
E) Only thing that we can direcly infer. No tax, then no pay.
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11 Aug 2004, 14:44
Paul wrote:
I'd go with E. It was b/w C and E
C) We cannot conclude this. Public employees could still be real taxpayers. If taxes are abolished, they would have their disposable income increased. If taxes are abolished, they could not receive any salary for some reason other than not being a real taxpayer. The two reasons are independent of each other and no link can be established.
E) Only thing that we can direcly infer. No tax, then no pay.

I think you might be reading into it a bit to much Paul, but the stimulus explictly asks what can be deduced by using both facts mentioned, and I think E ignores one of the facts.

Fact 1:

Real Taxpayers have the characteristic that their income increases in the absence of taxes.

Fact 2:

Public Employees have the characteristic that their income becomes non-existent in the income of taxes.

It is therefore impossible to be a Real Taxpayer and a Public Employee per the facts.

if A (public employee) -> B
and AA (real taxpayer) -> ~B

by contraposite

B -> ~AA

by transitive

A -> ~AA (or public employe is not real taxpayer)..

Then again, i've been wrong a lot lately, so go figure

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12 Aug 2004, 18:36
Pretty bizarre - I posted a response to this post yesterday, and now it's gone...
Only C uses BOTH statements to draw a conclusion. Hence C is the answer.

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12 Aug 2004, 18:55
E seems to have the direct relation with the given information.

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12 Aug 2004, 20:08
I find it incredible that C should be the answer. This looks like one of those question where it requires you to infer something from the stimulus. In this repect, E should be a perfect choice.

And yes, yesterday I poseted 3 messages but got them 'lost' as well.

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12 Aug 2004, 20:18
I agree with the lost messages... I actually saw 2 RC questions I wanted to answer tonight... nowhere to be found. I feel bad for the person who typed them.
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12 Aug 2004, 20:34
E only.

The public employees are also salaried (and pay taxes) and would have more disposable income if taxes are abolished. However, if they cant be given salaries - as the salaries for the public employees are from tax revenues otherwise - then?

Also, What's about 'real tax payers'? - there is no 'unreral tax payers'.

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12 Aug 2004, 23:29
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E only.

The public employees are also salaried (and pay taxes) and would have more disposable income if taxes are abolished. However, if they cant be given salaries - as the salaries for the public employees are from tax revenues otherwise - then?

Also, What's about 'real tax payers'? - there is no 'unreral tax payers'.

I think you are reading into the stimulus... I admit that the stimulus is absurd, but you need to throw away outside knowledge when doing these problems and solve them logically.

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13 Aug 2004, 09:33
ywilfred wrote:
I find it incredible that C should be the answer. This looks like one of those question where it requires you to infer something from the stimulus. In this repect, E should be a perfect choice.

And yes, yesterday I poseted 3 messages but got them 'lost' as well.

E is a perfect, safest choice. What you're neglecting is the question stem.
"Which one of the following is a logical conclusion that depends on information in both of the statements above"

If the question stem hadn't mentioned 'both' in it, E would indeed be the right answer. But because you must use both statements to arrive at the right answer, C prevails.

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14 Aug 2004, 05:25
Whats the OA>..

I cant seem to choose between C and E.......

Can someone give a stronger reason why E cannot be the answer.....

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14 Aug 2004, 16:07
crackgmat04 wrote:
Whats the OA>..

I cant seem to choose between C and E.......

Can someone give a stronger reason why E cannot be the answer.....

C is the OA. See the post right before yours for why E cannot be the answer.

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25 Aug 2004, 03:46
Geethu wrote:
20. Abolish taxes, and real taxpayers would find that their disposable incomes have increased. Abolish taxes, and public employees would find that their incomes have disappeared. Which one of the following is a logical conclusion that depends on information in both of the statements above?

(A) Public offices should be abolished so that disposable incomes will rise. (B) The only real taxpayers are those who would have more to spend if they did not pay taxes.
(C) Public employees are not real taxpayers.
(D) Public employeesâ€™ incomes should not be taxed since they come from taxes.
(E) If there were no taxes, then public employees could not be paid.

The question is "which of the following is a logical conclusion that depends on information in BOTH of the statements above?"
E doesn't use information from the first statement. That's why E cannot be the answer

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