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enrolment
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noun
noun: enrollment
the action of enrolling or being enrolled.
"the amount due must be paid on enrolment in October"
NORTH AMERICAN
the number of people enrolled at a school or college.

This above part is google's definition.

So, enrollment can refer to the number of people enrolled - So why A is wrong. Though I agree E is right. I thought even A is a good contender.
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enrolment
ɪnˈrəʊlm(ə)nt/Submit
noun
noun: enrollment
the action of enrolling or being enrolled.
"the amount due must be paid on enrolment in October"
NORTH AMERICAN
the number of people enrolled at a school or college.

This above part is google's definition.

So, enrollment can refer to the number of people enrolled - So why A is wrong. Though I agree E is right. I thought even A is a good contender.
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The issue isn't necessarily with the word "enrollment." Thing is, we're trying to compare the NUMBER of people in job training programs with the NUMBER of people enrolled in colleges and universities. And (E) captures that meaning pretty thoroughly.

So what's the problem with (A)? I'd argue that the biggest issue is the word "equivalent," which can also just be used to indicate something that's approximately similar in function or in quality. For example, if I say "Dazbog Coffee is the local equivalent to Starbucks", I'm not saying that they're exactly equal -- I'm suggesting that they're roughly similar or comparable in quality or function. (And if anybody reading this has actually been to Dazbog, feel free to weigh in on the quality of their coffee and snacks! I have totally useless and irrelevant opinions about this.)

Anyway, I don't think that's quite right in (A), which is saying that "eight million people" in job-training programs are somehow "equivalent" to the "enrollment of the nation's four-year colleges and universities." We're not trying to say that these people are "equivalent" (roughly equal in quality or function) to those other people; we're trying to say that the numbers are equal. (E) states that much more clearly.

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Well this is a comparison question. While solving such question, keep one thing in mind that it is a right comparison, apple to apple. Here "for nearly eight million people" is one side of the comparison. let find the other side.

(A) equivalent to the enrollment of --- 80 mil people compared with enrollment. not a right comparison.

(B) the equivalent of those enrolled in --- 80 mil people compared with people enrolled. absurd.

(C) equal to those who are enrolled in --- 80 mil people compared with "those" again for individual people. absurd.

(D) as many as the enrollment of --- 80 mil people compared with "enrollment". quiet silly.

(E) as many as are enrolled in --- right comparison. 80 mil people compared with "as many as are enrolled".

Hopefully E should be right.

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Hey GMATNinja
I have got two questions for you!

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According to a study by the Carnegie Foundation for the Advancement of Teaching, companies in the United States are providing job training and general education for nearly eight million people, about equivalent to the enrollment of the nation’s four-year colleges and universities.

(A) equivalent to the enrollment of
(B) the equivalent of those enrolled in
(C) equal to those who are enrolled in
(D) as many as the enrollment of
(E) as many as are enrolled in


Your explanation makes perfect sense. (as usual!)
But, the reason I eliminated other options was because of some other kind of ambiguity!
Lets make this a simple sentence first -
Companies are providing training to 8 people, about equivalent to the enrollment of the colleges.

I feel we are comparing the "companies" to the "enrollment". Obviously illogical and absurd!
Companies are providing training to 8 people
Equivalent to the training the enrollment provides to 8 people.

All the wrong options have a similar issue. (C) is comparing companies to students in my opinion.

Is my reasoning fine? :?

My other (definitely more important) question is - how can u have a food blog and not let us all know about it? :(
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Your explanation makes perfect sense. (as usual!)
But, the reason I eliminated other options was because of some other kind of ambiguity!
Lets make this a simple sentence first -
Companies are providing training to 8 people, about equivalent to the enrollment of the colleges.

I feel we are comparing the "companies" to the "enrollment". Obviously illogical and absurd!
Companies are providing training to 8 people
Equivalent to the training the enrollment provides to 8 people.

All the wrong options have a similar issue. (C) is comparing companies to students in my opinion.

Is my reasoning fine? :?

You're right that the comparison in your example is illogical, but I think the sentence is suggesting that the 8 people are equivalent to the enrollment. This also doesn't make any sense. The size of one population can be similar to the size of another population, but humans don't share characteristics with enrollments.

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My other (definitely more important) question is - how can u have a food blog and not let us all know about it?

Lol! It's mentioned in my forum signature, but so are a ton of other things. Those other things are general much more useful, so I can't blame anybody for missing the food blog link. :)
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GMATNinja neither Dazbog Coffee nor Starbucks offer cortado...

I read the analysis and comments and cannot understand whether the original NYTimes article is correct. The original articles uses "enrollment in" while option (A) uses "enrollment of"; otherwise, they are the same.

Can you please comment on the above? Thank you.
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GMATNinja neither Dazbog Coffee nor Starbucks offer cortado...

I read the analysis and comments and cannot understand whether the original NYTimes article is correct. The original articles uses "enrollment in" while option (A) uses "enrollment of"; otherwise, they are the same.

Can you please comment on the above? Thank you.

Fun question! I actually did a little sleuthing and hunted down the original Times article to confirm that it was quoted accurately. (April 2, 1985. A tip of the hat to the GMAC grunt charged with combing through random 30-year-old articles to inspire SC questions.) It was.

This is all a testament to the fact that even professional writers will occasionally produce problematic sentences in prestigious outlets. The sentence in the Times is questionable for exactly the same reason that (A) is questionable. A technical error? No, but not as clear or coherent as the OA, which logically compares one number to another.

So there you have it: the GMAT holds you to a higher standard than the editors of the New York Times hold their journalists! (At least the standard they had in 1985.)

I hope that helps!

(And mykrasovski, bonus points for the Dazbog reference. I'm betting that you're the only other person on this particular thread who has ever been to a Dazbog. :) )
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GMATNinja thank you very much for conducting a small investigation :) The GMAT indeed has very strict standards...

Haha, here is the funny fact. I have walked past multiple Dazbog coffee shops in Cherry Creek and other locations, but have never purchased a cup of coffee in the shop. I did try coffee from Dazbog (my friend got me some) and bought packaged Dazbog coffee in Sawefay. But I am yet to actually walk in the Dazbog store and buy a cup myself :)

So.... "Let's grab some, I am buying" :-D
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