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Was stuck between C and D. Chose D because C had a construction "estimate...will be". I know "will" is only used for certainty. How can estimation be so certain? Can someone please explain? But, D has a bigger problem of "year" getting "modified" by "that" clause. Both of them are faulty. In these cases, does anyone know which one to choose?
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Was stuck between C and D. Chose D because C had a construction "estimate...will be". I know "will" is only used for certainty. How can estimation be so certain? Can someone please explain? But, D has a bigger problem of "year" getting "modified" by "that" clause. Both of them are faulty. In these cases, does anyone know which one to choose?


According to Interstudy, a nonprofit organization that studies health maintenance organizations (HMO’s), they estimate that, in comparison to last year, when only 36 percent of the nation’s 607 HMO’s was profitable, this year 73 percent will be.

(A) they estimate that, in comparison to last year, when only 36 percent of the nation’s 607 HMO’s was profitable, this year 73 percent will be

(B) compared to only 36 percent of the nation’s 607 HMO’s being profitable last year, they estimate 73 percent would be this year

(C) only 36 percent of the nation’s 607 HMO’s were profitable last year; it estimates that this year 73 percent will be

(D) it estimates 73 percent of the nation’s 607 HMO’s would be profitable this year; last year that was only 36 percent

(E) only 36 percent of the nation’s 607 HMO’s last year were profitable, whereas they estimate it this year to be 73 percent


ok - I go by the meaning.....and then to the Logic....and then the grammar,etc
A - Wrong grammatically (beginning with THEY - no referrent)
B - Grammar - 1 - Comapared To [X}, [Y] - Parallelism issue,
2 - (they estimate 73 percent) should be (they estimate THAT 73 percent)
C - Meaning fine, Logic fine, Grammar (yes, some ppl noticed - estimates that.....will be) is wrong construction - But kept it aside because did not feel this to be a make/break issue
D - Wrong grammatically (beginning with IT - no referrent)
E - Grammar - 1 - (607 HMO’s last year were profitable) should be (607 HMO’s last year being profitable)
2 - [X], WHEREAS [Y] - Parallelism error

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hi,

had a doubt on this one - shouldn't the clause after a semi-colon be independent i.e. should contain both a subject and object.

what is the object of the 2nd clause in option C.

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Was stuck between C and D. Chose D because C had a construction "estimate...will be". I know "will" is only used for certainty. How can estimation be so certain? Can someone please explain? But, D has a bigger problem of "year" getting "modified" by "that" clause. Both of them are faulty. In these cases, does anyone know which one to choose?


According to Interstudy, a nonprofit organization that studies health maintenance organizations (HMO’s), they estimate that, in comparison to last year, when only 36 percent of the nation’s 607 HMO’s was profitable, this year 73 percent will be.

(A) they estimate that, in comparison to last year, when only 36 percent of the nation’s 607 HMO’s was profitable, this year 73 percent will be

(B) compared to only 36 percent of the nation’s 607 HMO’s being profitable last year, they estimate 73 percent would be this year

(C) only 36 percent of the nation’s 607 HMO’s were profitable last year; it estimates that this year 73 percent will be

(D) it estimates 73 percent of the nation’s 607 HMO’s would be profitable this year; last year that was only 36 percent

(E) only 36 percent of the nation’s 607 HMO’s last year were profitable, whereas they estimate it this year to be 73 percent


ok - I go by the meaning.....and then to the Logic....and then the grammar,etc
A - Wrong grammatically (beginning with THEY - no referrent)
B - Grammar - 1 - Comapared To [X}, [Y] - Parallelism issue,
2 - (they estimate 73 percent) should be (they estimate THAT 73 percent)
C - Meaning fine, Logic fine, Grammar (yes, some ppl noticed - estimates that.....will be) is wrong construction - But kept it aside because did not feel this to be a make/break issue
D - Wrong grammatically (beginning with IT - no referrent)
E - Grammar - 1 - (607 HMO’s last year were profitable) should be (607 HMO’s last year being profitable)
2 - [X], WHEREAS [Y] - Parallelism error


In D, *It* clearly refers to Non profit organization. I don't see a problem with this. Could you please clarify why do you think *it* is a problem in this question? In fact, if I were to point out the problem, then I would point out in C as *IT* in C is very far away from the antecedent "Non profit organization".
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Remove A, B and E as these three uses they while Interstudy is singular. D has ambiguous pronoun "that". Only C is left.
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D is out: It is just as ridiculous as saying "According to Saeed, He says that he hopes he will be able to join the 700 club " :)
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In D, *It* clearly refers to Non profit organization. I don't see a problem with this. Could you please clarify why do you think *it* is a problem in this question? In fact, if I were to point out the problem, then I would point out in C as *IT* in C is very far away from the antecedent "Non profit organization".


ok - Let me break the question and remove unnecessary modifiers that bog us down....and read the sentence for options C and D

C - According to Interstudy, only 36 percent of the nation’s 607 HMO’s were profitable last year; it estimates that this year 73 percent will be

D - According to Interstudy, it estimates 73 percent of the nation’s 607 HMO’s would be profitable this year; last year that was only 36 percent

D( simpler version) - According to Interstudy, it estimates 73 percent of.....would be profitable this year; last year that was only 36 percent
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They .. Incorrect pronoun
D changes the meaning
C is the correct
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Most of the people have pointed out "it" in D and the change in the meaning without any explanation. The only problem I can see is "that" after "last year". I am not sure what "that" points to. In contrast, C looks entirely incomplete. I don't know how C is the clear winner. Can someone please clarify what else is wrong with D?
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Whats wrong in D with "it"?
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the problem is with the structure.
According to Interstudy, an organization, it estimates

the following construction is not only correct but also sounds right.
According to Interstudy, an organization, only 607 HMO’s were profitable last year
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Whats wrong in D with "it"?
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Interstudy is followed by the pronoun it. Awkward.

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I picked C..."it" refers to the nonprofit organization

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C is the best of all. However, I remember reading about the two sentences separated with a a semicolon should be independent clauses/ sentences.

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C is the best of all. However, I remember reading about the two sentences separated with a a semicolon should be independent clauses/ sentences.

Can somebody shed more light into this semi-colon concept?


You're correct.

According to Interstudy, a nonprofit organization that studies health maintenance organizations (HMO’s), only 36 percent of the nation’s 607 HMO’s were profitable last year; it estimates that this year 73 percent will be.

Independent clause it is.
it estimates that this year 73 percent will be.
it: subject
estimates: verb

it estimates that this year 73 percent will be [profitable].
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Thankfully C is the best one...hard one!
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Remove the modifiers then the options look like

(A) According to Interstudy.....they estimate that, (wrong)

(B) According to Interstudy...compared to only 36 percent of the nation’s (wrong)

(C) According to Interstudy...only 36 percent of the nation’s 607 HMO’s were (sounds correct)

(D) According to Interstudy....it estimates 73 percent of the nation’s 607 (wrong)

(E) According to Interstudyonly.... 36 percent of the nation’s 607 HMO’s (wrong)

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"(C) only 36 percent of the nation’s 607 HMO’s were profitable last year; it estimates that this year 73 percent will be"

Can we end a sentence as above with "will be" . Profitable should have been mentioned here.

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According to Interstudy, a nonprofit organization that studies health maintenance organizations (HMO’s), they estimate that, in comparison to last year, when only 36 percent of the nation’s 607 HMO’s was profitable, this year 73 percent will be.

(A) they estimate that, in comparison to last year, when only 36 percent of the nation’s 607 HMO’s was profitable, this year 73 percent will be
(B) compared to only 36 percent of the nation’s 607 HMO’s being profitable last year, they estimate 73 percent would be this year
(C) only 36 percent of the nation’s 607 HMO’s were profitable last year; it estimates that this year 73 percent will be
(D) it estimates 73 percent of the nation’s 607 HMO’s would be profitable this year; last year that was only 36 percent
(E) only 36 percent of the nation’s 607 HMO’s last year were profitable, whereas they estimate it this year to be 73 percent


A - removing modifiers we get -> they estimate that this year 73 percent will be
This is an incomplete sentence.
B - This is run-on
C - Correct
D - "it" is ambigous
E - "they" is ambigous
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The performer of the estimation is a single institude, so any choice mentioning 'they' which is referring to the institude is false.

so A , B , E are out

In D, 'last year that was only 36 percent' is ambiguous, since the word 'that' has no reference.
according to the context, 'that' should refer to 'the percentage of HWO's that are profitable'; but this is not explicitly mentioned in the sentence. So D is out.
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According to Interstudy, a nonprofit organization that studies health maintenance organizations (HMO’s), they estimate that, in comparison to last year, when only 36 percent of the nation’s 607 HMO’s was profitable, this year 73 percent will be.

(A) they estimate that, in comparison to last year, when only 36 percent of the nation’s 607 HMO’s was profitable, this year 73 percent will be

(B) compared to only 36 percent of the nation’s 607 HMO’s being profitable last year, they estimate 73 percent would be this year

(C) only 36 percent of the nation’s 607 HMO’s were profitable last year; it estimates that this year 73 percent will be

(D) it estimates 73 percent of the nation’s 607 HMO’s would be profitable this year; last year that was only 36 percent

(E) only 36 percent of the nation’s 607 HMO’s last year were profitable, whereas they estimate it this year to be 73 percent


C wins. Semi colon prevents run on sentence and both clauses are independent.

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