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pqhai wrote:
Note:
- see the word "it" at the end of the sentence. "it" refers to what? Clearly, "it" refers to "thirty" ==> The comparison should be "women over thirty" vs "women under thirty".
- When see a comparison, be aware of "middle man" - a noun/noun phrase between two people/things being compared.


According to public health officials, in 1998 Massachusetts became the first state in which more babies were born to women over the age of thirty than [to women] under it.

1. than
Correct. Comparison "women over thirty" vs "women under thirty" (under "it"); "over" vs "under.

2. than born
Wrong. ambiguous. Because of the "middle man" - women ==> the meaning may be changed to "more babies were born to women over thirty than (women) born under it

3. than they were
Wrong. "they" refers to who? babies or women?

4. than they had been
Wrong. Same problem as in (3). "they" is not clear.

5. than had been born
Wrong. Same as in (2). Because of the middle man - women, the intended meaning may be distorted.

Hope it's clear


Hi pqhai,
Can you explain in more detail regarding usage of "more than".

What is the difference in usage of "more than" in the below sentences.

1. The number of students in school A is more than that of school B.
2. According to public health officials, in 1998 Massachusetts became the first state in which more babies were born to women over the age of thirty than under it.

In the first, "more than" is together.
In second, "more" and "than" are separated.

Can you explain this concept in detail.?

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According to public health officials, in 1998 Massachusetts became the first state in which more babies were born to women over the age of thirty than under it.

A. than
B. than born
C. that they were
D. than there had been
E. than had been born

Please give explanations to support your choices. OA will be posted soon.


+1 for A :-D ... Sheer Parallelism

B. than born --> wrong comparison (babies)
C. that they were --> wrong comparison (Babies)
D. than there had been --> Had been ???
E. than had been born --> wrong comparison (Babies)

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Let us analyze the parallel structure maintained across the sentence.

Standard correct E.g :
The air quality of Vegas in 2007 was higher than that in 1997. that = The air quality of Las Vegas
The air quality of Vegas was higher in 2007 than in 1997.

Now take current question:

in which more babies were born to women over the age of 30 than to women under the age of 30.
in which more babies were born to women over the age of 30 than under it (the age of 30) (to women is in ellipse)

Q: Is following construction OK?

in which more babies to women over the age of 30 were born than that under it.

that=babies to women
it= the age of 30
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According to public health officials, in 1998 Massachusetts became the first state in which more babies were born to women over the age of thirty than under it.

1. than
2. than born
3. than they were
4. than they had been
5. than had been born

Explanation please !!


Clearly, any verb or helping verb in the comparison clause would change the comparison: from "women over the age of thirty" and "women under it" to "babies born over thirty" and "babies born under thirty." This is illogical and wrong. Thus, the correct answer is A.

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Hi

Can someone please explain how parallelism exsits in this sentence? I don't see how one is better than the other. For example, in my mind, B could read:

-Born to women over the age of thirty than born (to women) under it.

The "to women" part is implied in A so why can't it be implied in B?

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According to public health officials, in 1998 Massachusetts became the first state in which more babies were born to women over the age of thirty than under it.

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According to public health officials, in 1998 Massachusetts became the first state in which more babies were born to women over the age of thirty than under it.

Basically
more babies were born to women over the age of thirty
than
babies were born to women under the age of thirty

age of thirty -> it
"babies were born to women" is ellipsed.


A. than -> Hence correct
B. than born
C. than they were
D. than there had been
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According to public health officials, in 1998 Massachusetts became the first state in which more babies were born to women over the age of thirty than under it.

Basically
more babies were born to women over the age of thirty
than
babies were born to women under the age of thirty

age of thirty -> it
"babies were born to women" is ellipsed.


A. than -> Hence correct
B. than born
C. than they were
D. than there had been
E. than had been born


I have a same reason as you. But I answered C because I thought they refer to babies. but they can refer to women. This is ok. I got it.

However, if it has a choice like this.

F. than babies were

Is it correct?

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The standard pattern for comparisons: X is less than Y, NOT X is less than it is Y.

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The comparison is: preposition noun (noun phrase) than preposition noun (pronoun)

All the choices except the original one mess this up...

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According to public health officials, in 1998 Massachusetts became the first state in which more babies were born to women over the age of thirty than under it.

1. than
2. than born
3. than they were
4. than they had been
5. than had been born

Explanation please !!


why b is wrong?

born to women
born under it.

so, this mean, "it' parallel to "women..". this is not logic
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According to public health officials, in 1998 Massachusetts became the first state in which more babies were born to women over the age of thirty than under it.

1. than
2. than born
3. than they were
4. than they had been
5. than had been born

Explanation please !!


why b is wrong?

born to women
born under it.

so, this mean, "it' parallel to "women..". this is not logic


Yeah, you can't compare women to 'it'

The comparison is correct as it is, ie, using 'than'.

...over (the age of the thirty) than under (it) > That's the comparison and it's correct.

The rest of the choices add something after the word 'than', and make it incorrect.

We want a parallel comparison, and a preposition followed by a noun/noun phrase that comes before 'than' in the question stem can only be mirrored correctly if you just use 'than' (than the choices with something after it).

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According to public health officials, in 1998 Massachusetts became the first state in
which more babies were born to women over the age of thirty .than under it.
A. than
B. than born
C. than they were
D. than there had been
E. than had been born


this question involves comparison and the idiom involved for comparing id more x than y
as the meaning says we need to compare women over the age of thirty to women under the
age of thirty

A.correct than
women is implicit after than and it refers to age of thirty
B. Incorrectthan born
if anything implicit one could think of is babies and is wrong
C. Incorrectthan they were
"they" is ambiguous. even if they is correct but meaning-wise this answer is wrong
D. Incorrectthan there had been
use of had been is wrong and what had been under it ??
E. Incorrectthan had been born
babies born under thirty??
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According to public health officials, in 1998 Massachusetts became the first state in which more babies were born to women over the age of thirty than under it.
A. than
B. than born
C. than they were
D. than there had been
E. than had been born


I find a point here.
look at choice b.
it means

more babies were born to women over the age of thirty than /babies were/born /to women /under it
there is 2 phrases which is cut off here. this is impossible.
in contrast, choice a means

more babies were born to women over the age of thirty than /babies were born to women/under it

here, there is one phrase which is cut off. this is good.

the takeaway is that, the cut off part in ellipsis pattern must be one phrase and can not be two phrases at 2 places.

am i correct.

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