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Adult survivors of child abuse traditionally have had little or no chance that they could get their symptoms recognized and treated.

(A) that they could get their symptoms recognized and treated
(B) to recognize and treat their symptoms
(C) of getting their symptoms recognized and treated
(D) of recognizing and treating symptoms
(E) of getting his or her symptoms recognized and treated
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Adult survivors of child abuse traditionally have had little or no chance that they could get their symptoms recognized and treated.
(A) that they could get their symptoms recognized and treated
(B) to recognize and treat their symptoms.
(C) of getting their symptoms recognized and treated.
(D) of recognizing and treating symptoms.
(E) of getting his or her symptoms recognized and treated.


Hi Guys,

There are a couple of issues here, idioms among them. Your idiomatic uses of "chance" are the following:

Chance that: Ex. There is a chance that it will rain.
Chance of: Ex. There is a chance of rain.
To have a chance of: She has a chance of doing well.
Chance to: Have you had a chance (meaning an opportunity) to look at the file?
There is no idiom "have a chance that." E


A: You can have a "chance of" or a "chance to (meaning an opportunity to), but you cannot "have a chance that".

B. The intended meaning is NOT that people do not have the opportunity to recognize and treat their symptoms.

C. Correct: The people have not had the chance to get (someone) to recognize/treat their symptoms.

D. As others have noted, while there is no grammatical error, the meaning is incorrect, as people do not recognize and treat their own symptoms.

E. As has already been noted, "his" and "her" are singular pronouns, but the referent ("survivors") is plural.

I hope that helped.

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“his or her” doesn’t agree with "Adult survivors". Hence E is Out
Symptoms cannot be treated. People can be treated. Hence B and D are out
"little or no chance" clearly makes "could" unnecessary, because "little or no chance" leaves nothing to uncertainty, while "could" introduces probability.

Answer should be C
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(A) that they could get their symptoms recognized and treated
(B) to recognize and treat their symptoms.
(C) of getting their symptoms recognized and treated.
(D) of recognizing and treating symptoms.
(E) of getting his or her symptoms recognized and treated.
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the sentence is in past tense, so I think its C...
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Why not B?

Because B is "to recognize and treat their symptoms".

Do we really TREAT symptoms? We treat diseases.
Symptoms tell us what disease is the person suffering from. I can treat disease. Not the symptom.

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58. Adult survivors of child abuse traditionally have had little or no chance that they could get their symptoms recognized and treated.

(A) that they could get their symptoms recognized and treated-->could get does not go with the past construction.
(B) to recognize and treat their symptoms-->present tense so does not go with past have had...
(C) of getting their symptoms recognized and treated
(D) of recognizing and treating symptoms---> continuous does not go with have had..(past perfect)
(E) of getting his or her symptoms recognized and treated--->like D
Hence, only avl is C.. share OA and OE
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Adult survivors of child abuse traditionally have had little or no chance that they could get their symptoms recognized and treated.

(A) that they could get their symptoms recognized and treated
wordier construction than C

(B) to recognize and treat their symptoms

This suggests that Adult survivors recognize and treat their own symptoms. Out

(C) of getting their symptoms recognized and treated

Correct idiomatic use of chance of. Conveys the correct meaning

(D) of recognizing and treating symptoms
same problem as B

(E) of getting his or her symptoms recognized and treated

pronoun agreement error

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Why C? i thought 'getting' is odd in that option and 'their' makes sense but still i didn't choose that option.BTW OA is C
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logically you never recognize your own symptoms and treat them. Somebody, for instance, doctor does it for you.
that is why it is C
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in E there is HIS OR HER. With survivors ?
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I am between B and C, but B sounds less wordy and better! So I think it is B
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I'd also choose B.

Can somebody explain what's wrong with B.
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My answer is B...

We are talking about something that had "little or no chance" of happening. So I don't think it would make sense to use past tense for the verbs "recognize and treat". Hence B.

What is the OA?
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So... Which is the official answer????
B or C??
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Adult survivors of the child abuse traditionally have had little or no chance that they could get their symptoms recognized and treated.
(A) that they could get their symptoms recognized and treated
(B) to recognize and treat their symptoms.
(C) of getting their symptoms recognized and treated.
(D) of recognizing and treating symptoms.
(E) of getting his or her symptoms recognized and treated.

C for me
First, no chance of is a correct idiom
Second, their clearly refer to survivors
Third, to recognize distorts the meaning - survivors are not the ones who recognize their symptoms.
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(A) that they could get their symptoms recognized and treated
wordier construction than C
(B) to recognize and treat their symptoms
This suggests that Adult survivors recognize and treat their own symptoms. Out
(C) of getting their symptoms recognized and treated
Correct idiomatic use of chance of. Conveys the correct meaning
(D) of recognizing and treating symptoms
same problem as B
(E) of getting his or her symptoms recognized and treated
pronoun agreement error


I disagree with some of the explanations although the answer C is chosen correctly.
(A) - have chance that could get is incorrect. Chance of something is more idiomatic
(B) - AS can't treat their own symptoms
(C) - CORRECT
(D) - not clear of whose symptoms. lacks clarity
(E) - Adult survivors is PLURAL vs his/her is SINGULAR
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Adult survivors of the child abuse traditionally have had little or no chance that they could get their symptoms recognized and treated.
(A) that they could get their symptoms recognized and treated
(B) to recognize and treat their symptoms.
(C) of getting their symptoms recognized and treated.
(D) of recognizing and treating symptoms.
(E) of getting his or her symptoms recognized and treated.


I think its "E" . They have no chance of getting his / her (each one of their) symptoms recognized and treated. Please correct me if i am wrong.


Hi kabilank87,

Note that the pronoun "his/ her" is singular and needs a singular noun to agree with it.

Consider the examples below

The teacher asked each student to submit his/ her assignments --> Correct, his/ her refers to each student

The teacher asked each student to submit their assignments --> Incorrect, "their", a plural, refers to "each", singular

The teacher asked the students to submit their assignments --> Correct, "their" correctly refers to the plural noun "students"

The teacher asked the students to submit his/ her assignments --> Incorrect, "his/ her" is singular and can not refer to the plural "students"

In the question above the subject is "Adult survivors", which is a plural noun, so, the use of "their" is correct and his/ her is incorrect.

If we rephrase the sentence as -

Each adult survivor of the child abuse traditionally has had little or no chance of getting his/ her symptoms recognized and treated. --> Correct, singular noun - singular pronoun

Hope this helps,

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58. Adult survivors of child abuse traditionally have had little or no chance that they could get their symptoms recognized and treated.

(A) that they could get their symptoms recognized and treated-->could get does not go with the past construction.
(B) to recognize and treat their symptoms-->present tense so does not go with past have had...
(C) of getting their symptoms recognized and treated
(D) of recognizing and treating symptoms---> continuous does not go with have had..(past perfect)
(E) of getting his or her symptoms recognized and treated--->like D
Hence, only avl is C.. share OA and OE


Have had is not past perfect, but present perfect, so why is B incorrect?

C is very wordy since it is a passive voice with the verb "get"

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58. Adult survivors of child abuse traditionally have had little or no chance that they could get their symptoms recognized and treated.

(A) that they could get their symptoms recognized and treated
(B) to recognize and treat their symptoms
(C) of getting their symptoms recognized and treated
(D) of recognizing and treating symptoms
(E) of getting his or her symptoms recognized and treated


I think passive voice here is OK .. survivors can't treat symptoms themselves ...so these symptoms get treated.. based on this, the choice is between A and C..

I pick A .. ( don't know what is not correct in C ..)
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