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30 Apr 2006, 19:51
Hi,
Can we please continue with this thread & request Paul or somebody tp make it a sticky. It was pretty useful

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30 Apr 2006, 20:06
Very good initiative and even better responses ...

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30 Apr 2006, 20:08
Because Vs Due to

Because: Used to give the reason
Due to: Used in situations where it means "attributable to"

Possible structures: â€˜Due to + Noun Phraseâ€™ and â€˜Due to the fact that + Main Clauseâ€™, and â€˜Because + Main Clauseâ€™ and â€˜Because of + Noun Phraseâ€™.

Examples:
SC504 of 1000SC (Because Vs due to)
SC879 of 1000SC (Because Vs due to)
SC990 of 1000SC (Usage of "due to")

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02 May 2006, 11:26
Hey Paul,Thanks a ton!

I want to clarify the use of none..I am aware that it can be used both as singular n plural.

None of us are going to rocky's party.

Acc. to the rule, 'are' should be present..as the object of the 'of' construction is plural.

The above sentence sounds fine if us refers to a group of people..say 5 or 6....howver..if us refers to a group of just 2....in thatt situation I found 'are' a lil awkward.
Can some please explain...also...does 'are' holds good if us refers to just 2 ppl.?

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10 May 2006, 20:26
"not" usage

1) All my friends do not study business --> None of my friends studies business
2) Not all my friends study business --> Few of my friends do not study business

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31 May 2006, 07:03
Great grammar points by Paul:

1)"as well as" can be used as a conjunction or a preposition. When used as a preposition, it is indeed a parenthetical element and the following verb should be singular.
eg Mike, as well as Ron, is the best person for the challenge.

2)"despite the fact that" is redundant and hence wordy.
"despite" is usually followed by a gerund phrase (-ing).
eg Despite being so tall, Sue wears small size shoes.

Reference: http://gmatclub.com/phpbb/t27711

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31 May 2006, 07:15
Advanced usage of .....neither .....nor : The structure can be used to combine two clauses.

Ex: There has neither been a new contract nor have teachers seen any improvements in working conditions.

Further reference: http://gmatclub.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=24274

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31 May 2006, 07:31
Listing:

All items in the list must be parallel AND there must be an "and" before the last item.

If the list contains no "and" , it's incomplete hence wrong.
If the list contains more than one "and", it's a trapped list.

Reference: http://gmatclub.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=24275

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04 Jun 2006, 09:21
Is there a good GMAT Grammar book out there that explains all this? I am aiming for a 700+ score. Is the grammar given in Kaplan and Princeton guides good enough?

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26 Jun 2006, 20:29
mailtheguru wrote:
Is there a good GMAT Grammar book out there that explains all this? I am aiming for a 700+ score. Is the grammar given in Kaplan and Princeton guides good enough?

Get Manhattan SC book
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27 Jun 2006, 00:35
[quote="laxieqv"]My SC note [/quote]

Thanks laxieqv. I found these notes very useful.
I will use them as a ready reckoner for SC.
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02 Jul 2006, 06:08
vivek123 wrote:
Possessive Noun And Pronoun Reference

"The department of labor allows the investment officers' fees to be based on the performance of the funds they manage"

In the sentence above, "they" can't refer to "officers". "officers" is used as a possessive noun to modify "fees".
Whereas, in the sentence below, "they" refers to "officers"

"The department of labor allows the fees of investment officers to be based on the performance of the funds they manage"

This concept is also explained in the OG (10th Edition) for SC No. 90

Hi,

Sorry but i dint get this one.what is possesive noun btw?

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02 Jul 2006, 11:37
amitxx wrote:
vivek123 wrote:
Possessive Noun And Pronoun Reference

"The department of labor allows the investment officers' fees to be based on the performance of the funds they manage"

In the sentence above, "they" can't refer to "officers". "officers" is used as a possessive noun to modify "fees".
Whereas, in the sentence below, "they" refers to "officers"

"The department of labor allows the fees of investment officers to be based on the performance of the funds they manage"

This concept is also explained in the OG (10th Edition) for SC No. 90

Hi,

Sorry but i dint get this one.what is possesive noun btw?

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Hello Amit,

Look at this sentence:
Amit's car is bigger

Here "Amit's" is a possessive noun. "Amit" is a noun. Possessive noun is used to modify another noun OR in other words, a possessive noun shows ownership.

Hope this helps!

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Vivek

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I edited some grammar stuff that can be usefull is not finished and adjusted yet. I want to add more stuff on it and organize it but will take tike I will then update it periodically ... have fun....
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24 Jul 2006, 09:56
holy macro I see you're working hard if you compiled this... keep it up!!!

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24 Jul 2006, 10:21
thanks for the support U2lover I hope just to crack this exam and for me is not a prob to make my material available to the forum. As I wrote is not adjusted yet I would like to integrate it with 2 commonly available notes that are available on the net Spidy and psahil notes with SCMGMAT and Gmat800 in addition to the grammar that will come up regularly from our forum.... hope that will help i need a 600 badly....
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21 Aug 2006, 09:12
Dear All,

Uploading here the whole discussion on SC in a single file. Thanks Laxie and Vivek. You guys are amazing.
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28 Aug 2006, 04:03
laxieqv wrote:
Thank you, buddies, for your participation!!! ^_^

GMAT likes testing REDUNDANCY:

If you encounter any of the following, cross the answer choice right away

Some typical redundancy:
+ regain ......again ......
+ rise ........up ............
+ decline ....down ...
+ It is likely that â€¦â€¦may â€¦â€¦.
+ soar ......up ............
+ decrease .....down
+ re- Verb .....again .....
and so forth

If you find out more, please chip in!!

Here are few more to the redudancy list:

- free gift
- co-operate ...together
- can potentially
- appears to be

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