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+1 for C. It's not because Novex is effective that hospitals choose it, it's because the medecine is cheap.
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I would think about this problem in the following way: Give me the another reason why hospitals are giving patients the mentioned drug? What is the conclusion of the argument?

"So when you want the most effective
painkiller for sinus pain, Novex is the one to choose." --- Pay attention to the "So" since it indicates a conclusion.

(B) Many hospitals that do not usually use Novex
will do so for those patients who cannot
tolerate the drug the hospitals usually use. ---- This answer does not really weaken the argument, I would even think it strengthens the conclusion a bit ---- Hey! This drug can help even the people who are intolerant to all others, yey It's the best drug.

However:

(C) Many drug manufacturers increase sales of their
products to hospitals by selling these products
to the hospitals at the lowest price the manu-
facturers can afford. ---- Hmmm, so 3/4 of hospitals treat patients with this drug not because it's the best one but because it's cheaper! Shame on you hospitals :P

I would definitely go with "C"

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For weaken questions I follow the strategy that first i identify the conclusion and then look for ways on what are the other ways in which the conclusion can hold ( without the given premise)

In this question Conclusion - Novex should be used in as the most effective painkiller in Sinus
Premise - 3/4 hospitals use Novex for sinus pain.

If we can somehow think of other ways as to why Novex is used ( without thinking of the hospitals answer , we hit the nail there)

(A) Some competing brands of painkillers are intended to reduce other kinds of pain in addition to sinus pain.
- Talks about other kinds of pain , irrelevant in the conclusions context.
(B) Many hospitals that do not usually use Novex will do so for those patients who cannot tolerate the drug the hospitals usually use.
- This answer choice tells us that hospitals will use Novex for patients who cannot tolerate the drug that the hospitals usually give.
Again does not help our conclusion.
(C) Many drug manufacturers increase sales of their products to hospitals by selling these products to the hospitals at the lowest price the manufacturers can afford.
- This answer choice states that because of ulterior motives of hospitals ( that they have the drug at very low cost) , the drug Novex is used by hospitals and not because its very effective. Bingo
(D) Unlike some competing brands of painkillers, Novex is available from pharmacies without a doctor's prescription.
- Irrelevant in the context of the conclusion , talks about getting the medicine from pharmacy.
(E) In clinical trials Novex has been found more effective than competing brands of painkillers that have been on the market longer than Novex.
- Again irrelevant in context of the conclusion.

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C is the correct answer:

Reason :
the assumption behind the conclusion is that what majority of the medicines hospital use are the best in market. option C directly attack on this assumption by telling why hospitals actually have more of a certain brand of medicine stock.

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This is a weaken question. Correct answers do not have to absolutely, without a doubt, in all circumstances weaken the conclusion. They only have to open up the possibility that the conclusion is not valid. The correct answer on a weaken question will typically accomplish this by introducing a new piece of information that calls into question an assumption made by the author.

Given -->75% of hospitals give patients Novex.

Claim --> Novex is most effective.

Assumption --> author assumes that effectiveness is the metric the hospitals use when deciding what medication to give.

Note --> the argument does not say WHY hospitals give patients Novex. We would all like to believe that they will choose based on the effectiveness of the medication, but that's not necessarily the case. We have no idea why these hospitals gave patients Novex. This is where the author's assumption comes in.

In order to weaken, the correct answer will open up the possibility that the hospitals use some other metric, not effectiveness, when deciding what medication to use.

And that's exactly what choice C does: the hospitals may be basing their decision on money, not effectiveness. That negatively affects the author's assumption that the hospitals must be deciding based upon effectiveness.

B talks about the 25% of the hospitals that don't give their patients Novex (at least to start). So, first, this is a minority (part of the author's argument was based on the behavior of the 75% majority). Second, if these 25% that don't start with Novex will then use Novex when the first medication doesn't work... if anything, that would seem to strengthen the author's assumption that Novex is the most effective. Perhaps that 25% uses some cheaper but inferior drug first and then switches to the more effective but more expensive Novex for those patients for whom the inferior drug fails.

More simply, though, B is out of scope because it's focusing on the 25% minority. The author isn't claiming that everyone uses Novex - only that it's the most effective because a majority uses it. Information about the minority doesn't affect that claim.

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This is a weaken question. Correct answers do not have to absolutely, without a doubt, in all circumstances weaken the conclusion. They only have to open up the possibility that the conclusion is not valid. The correct answer on a weaken question will typically accomplish this by introducing a new piece of information that calls into question an assumption made by the author.

Given -->75% of hospitals give patients Novex.

Claim --> Novex is most effective.

Assumption --> author assumes that effectiveness is the metric the hospitals use when deciding what medication to give.

Note --> the argument does not say WHY hospitals give patients Novex. We would all like to believe that they will choose based on the effectiveness of the medication, but that's not necessarily the case. We have no idea why these hospitals gave patients Novex. This is where the author's assumption comes in.

In order to weaken, the correct answer will open up the possibility that the hospitals use some other metric, not effectiveness, when deciding what medication to use.

And that's exactly what choice C does: the hospitals may be basing their decision on money, not effectiveness. That negatively affects the author's assumption that the hospitals must be deciding based upon effectiveness.

B talks about the 25% of the hospitals that don't give their patients Novex (at least to start). So, first, this is a minority (part of the author's argument was based on the behavior of the 75% majority). Second, if these 25% that don't start with Novex will then use Novex when the first medication doesn't work... if anything, that would seem to strengthen the author's assumption that Novex is the most effective. Perhaps that 25% uses some cheaper but inferior drug first and then switches to the more effective but more expensive Novex for those patients for whom the inferior drug fails.

More simply, though, B is out of scope because it's focusing on the 25% minority. The author isn't claiming that everyone uses Novex - only that it's the most effective because a majority uses it. Information about the minority doesn't affect that claim.



From this : "Many hospitals that do not usually use Novex", how can we tell that its talking about "the 25% of the hospitals that don't give their patients Novex"?
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As mentioned in one of the other replies, we are looking for the best out of 5 and not the 'perfect' answer.

Option C gives another cause (Manufacturers selling it for a lower price) for the effect (Majority of hospital selling Novex) than the one given in the statement (it's the best painkiller), breaking the conclusion.
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Advertisement: For sinus pain, three out of four hospitals give their patients Novex. So when you want the most effective painkiller for sinus pain, Novex is the one to choose.

Which of the following, if true, most seriously undermines the advertisement’s argument?

A) Some competing brands of painkillers are intended to reduce other kinds of pain in addition to sinus pain.

B) Many hospitals that do not usually use Novex will do so for those patients who cannot tolerate the drug the hospitals usually use.

C) Many drug manufacturers increase sales of their products to hospitals by selling these products to the hospitals at the lowest price the manufacturers can afford.

D) Unlike some competing brands of painkillers, Novex is available from pharmacies without a doctor’s prescription.

E) In clinical trials Novex has been found to be more effective than competing brands of painkillers that have been on the market longer than Novex.



Official answer says it's C. I however think the right answer is B.

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IMO B.

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I think C is the answer, B says that hospitals are inclined to novex only when patients find the pain unbearable, I am hoping this strengthens the argument. It's my assumption plss let me know if I am wrong.
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How is B incorrect? It states that hospitals are forced to prescribe Novex. It could be that the the drugs which are unbearable could be more effective than Novex. Pls correct me if I am wrong.
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How is B incorrect? It states that hospitals are forced to prescribe Novex. It could be that the the drugs which are unbearable could be more effective than Novex. Pls correct me if I am wrong.

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Advertisement: For sinus pain, three out of four hospitals give their patients Novex. So when you want the most effective painkiller for sinus pain, Novex is the one to choose.

Which of the following, if true, most seriously undermines the advertisement’s argument?

(A) Some competing brands of painkillers are intended to reduce other kinds of pain in addition to sinus pain.
(B) Many hospitals that do not usually use Novex will do so for those patients who cannot tolerate the drug the hospitals usually use.
(C) Many drug manufacturers increase sales of their products to hospitals by selling these products to the hospitals at the lowest price the manufacturers can afford.
(D) Unlike some competing brands of painkillers, Novex is available from pharmacies without a doctor’s prescription.
(E) In clinical trials Novex has been found more effective than competing brands of painkillers that have been on the market longer than Novex.

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(B) Many hospitals that do not usually use Novex will do so for those patients who cannot tolerate the drug the hospitals usually use.

All we know from (B) is that the hospitals that do NOT usually use Novex will use Novex occasionally. Sure, it is possible that the drug normally used by those hospitals is more effective, but we don't know that. Consider the following scenario:

  • The hospitals referred to in choice (B)--those that do not usually use Novex--normally use Drug X, which is slightly less effective than Novex but MUCH cheaper.
  • Sometimes, their patients cannot tolerate Drug X, so these hospitals must use Novex.
  • Novex is still the most effective option, so choice (B) does not necessarily undermine the advertisement's argument.

In other words, maybe Novex IS the most effective painkiller and these hospitals normally use another, cheaper option. In order for (B) to weaken the argument, you have to assume that there is another, more effective option. But (B) does not suggest that such an option exists. Eliminate (B).

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(C) Many drug manufacturers increase sales of their products to hospitals by selling these products to the hospitals at the lowest price the manufacturers can afford.

Just because three out of four hospitals give their patients Novex, does that mean that Novex is the most EFFECTIVE painkiller? Maybe there is another painkiller that is a bit more effective, but since Novex is much cheaper, the hospitals go with the cheaper option.

Choice (C) fits with this scenario. Drug manufacturers encourage hospitals to buy Novex by selling it at very low prices. Sure, this doesn't PROVE that a more effective option exists, but it certainly suggests that the hospitals might purchase Novex because it is cheap, not necessarily because it is the most effective option.

In other words, (C) provides an alternate explanation for the data cited in the ad and, thus, seriously undermines the advertisement’s argument. (C) is the best answer.
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