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# After a few weeks experience, apprentice jewelers can

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21 Sep 2006, 19:57
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After a few weeksâ€™ experience, apprentice jewelers can usually begin to discriminate, though not with absolute certainty, genuine diamonds from imitation diamonds.

(A) genuine diamonds from imitation diamonds
(B) genuine diamonds apart from imitations
(C) between genuine diamonds and imitation diamonds
(D) among genuine diamonds and imitation diamonds
(E) whether diamonds are imitation or genuine

Eliminating 3 choices was pretty simple. But I simply couldn't choose between the 2 remaning ones...

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21 Sep 2006, 21:51
mahesh004 wrote:
will go with C.

Why is C better than A? According to the Princeton Review both
a. discriminate from and
b. discriminate between ... and ...

are idiomatic.

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21 Sep 2006, 21:55
may because both entities of similar nature...diamond.

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22 Sep 2006, 00:27
What are the OA and OE?

discriminate ... from ... and discriminate between ... and ... are both idiomatic usages.

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22 Sep 2006, 01:05
Well, the OA is C.
No OE though, this is from SC-1000.
Since both A and C are idiomatic, both are gramatically right. A is just more consise. So I still think that its gotta be A. Could any of the 'C - guys' please explain why A is wrong?

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22 Sep 2006, 01:56
I thought between is used when entities are similar. since both are diamonds we use between but if entities discriminated are very different from each other use x from y form.

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22 Sep 2006, 07:24
Great question! I selected A

But an explanation is present here -
http://www.gmatclub.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=22629&highlight=apprentice+jewellers+diamond+discriminate
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Uh uh. I know what you're thinking. "Is the answer A, B, C, D or E?" Well to tell you the truth in all this excitement I kinda lost track myself. But you've gotta ask yourself one question: "Do I feel lucky?" Well, do ya, punk?

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22 Sep 2006, 08:29

So is the comment in the referenced thread correct, or is mahesh004's comment correct?

They are opposite.

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22 Sep 2006, 08:35
The correct one should be the one in the referenced thread... it does lead to the OA!

I'm not too convinced about this distinction though. I'm grudgingly accepting this rule in the absence of a better explanation.
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22 Sep 2006, 19:37
genuine diamonds from imitation diamonds is a phrase and a preposition is needed to intoduce a phrase.

So C it is

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23 Sep 2006, 17:23
IMO, A is false...genuine and imitation diamonds are mutually exclusive, hence discriminating "between" the two is logical as opposed to discriminating one "from" the population of another.

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25 Sep 2006, 00:42
So, to sum up:
discriminate - between is used when distinguishing between different categories
discriminate X from Y is used when distinguishing within the same category.

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25 Sep 2006, 01:10
Good summary.

but the categorization is debatable.
Both genuine and imitated diamonds are diamonds before they are discriminated.

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25 Sep 2006, 09:01
2. to note or observe a difference; distinguish accurately: to discriminate between things.

3. to make or constitute a distinction in or between; differentiate: a mark that discriminates the original from the copy.

From dictionnary.com, C is clearly the right answer because the jewelers observe a difference rather than make a difference.

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26 Sep 2006, 03:14
karlfurt wrote:
2. to note or observe a difference; distinguish accurately: to discriminate between things.

3. to make or constitute a distinction in or between; differentiate: a mark that discriminates the original from the copy.

From dictionnary.com, C is clearly the right answer because the jewelers observe a difference rather than make a difference.

Good point...

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08 Aug 2007, 14:06
bmwhype2 wrote:
karlfurt wrote:
2. to note or observe a difference; distinguish accurately: to discriminate between things.

3. to make or constitute a distinction in or between; differentiate: a mark that discriminates the original from the copy.

From dictionnary.com, C is clearly the right answer because the jewelers observe a difference rather than make a difference.

nice... this is going into my notes

Thank you for resurrecting this thread. This will also be going to my notes!

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08 Aug 2007, 16:27
I voted for C as well.

However this lesson on "Between vs. From" is confusing to me.

Use Between when someone observes a difference.
Use From when someone can find a specific mark that differentiates it from the original.

Is that correct?

After reading this, couldn't jewelers actually find a mark that distinguishes fake from real diamonds? Or is that difference only observed?

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08 Aug 2007, 17:06
C

You're discriminating BETWEEN them, not 'discriminating' them

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