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New post 31 Jul 2018, 17:48
Before seeing this question, I would always think that "that" refers to immediate noun.
In this question, noun, "the jet engine", is far away from that. Moreover, "A jet engine is being tested" is in passive voice.
So, this question doesn't seem like GMAT question.
I understood parallelism error. My doubt is that can GMAT put such question in which one error is corrected and other is ignored?

Please throw light on this doubt.
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gvij2017 wrote:
Before seeing this question, I would always think that "that" refers to immediate noun.
In this question, noun, "the jet engine", is far away from that. Moreover, "A jet engine is being tested" is in passive voice.
So, this question doesn't seem like GMAT question.
I understood parallelism error. My doubt is that can GMAT put such question in which one error is corrected and other is ignored?

Please throw light on this doubt.


First, let's address the use of the passive voice.

In many cases the use of the passive voice is clearly sub optimal. When such sentences are presented in GMAT Sentence Correction questions, the correct answers to the questions will be ones that involve use of the active voice rather than use of the passive voice. However, while it is the case that in most cases, use of the active voice will result in a version better than one in which the passive voice is used, the use of the passive voice makes sense in some cases, and, therefore, it is not the case that one can always consider the use of the passive voice to be an error in a Sentence Correction question. Sometimes, the correct answer to a GMAT Sentence Correction question will involve the use of the passive voice.

So, the use of the passive voice in the OA to this question does not constitute an error.

Now let's address the separation of "that" from the noun to which it refers, which is "engine".

It is not entirely correct to say that a restrictive modifier always directly follows that noun that it modifies. Consider the following example:

The house near the center of town that Jim wanted to buy is no longer available.

In the above example, it is clear that Jim didn't want to buy the center of town or the town, he wanted to buy the house. However, the restrictive modifier, "that Jim wanted to buy" is separated from "house" by another modifier, "near the center of town".

This separation is fine, and a sentence structured in this way would be considered correct were it to appear in a Sentence Correction question. As a matter of fact, the entire structure, "house near the center of town", could be considered a noun, in which case, the restrictive modifier, "that Jim wanted to buy" would directly follow the noun that it modifies, "house near the center of town."

However, in the question posted in this thread, we don't have such a situation, we have a noun, "jet engine", followed by a verb, "is being tested", followed by a modifier, "that could eventually propel ..."

As I said in an earlier post, I find this structure to be illogical and awkward, one could only hope that you wouldn't see such a structure in any other practice question or in any question that you see on the GMAT. However, you might see it. In fact, here it is again in the OA to this question from the Official Guide, https://gmatclub.com/forum/gusty-wester ... 42543.html.

The story out there is that, when a sentence includes a relative clause modifier that is long, as is the modifier in the sentence in the question that is the topic of this thread, a verb in the sentence may correctly come between the modifier and the antecedent of the pronoun that appears at the beginning of the modifier, in order to make identifying the subject-verb relationship easy for a reader.

Therefore, while I personally still do not like this structure, and, while I find that including it in GMAT Sentence Correction questions does not make sense, you may want to keep it in mind on the off chance that you see it in a Sentence Correction question on the actual GMAT.
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Originally posted by MartyMurray on 31 Jul 2018, 18:39.
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Thanks Mr. Marty for such a elaborative explanation.
MartyMurray wrote:
gvij2017 wrote:
Before seeing this question, I would always think that "that" refers to immediate noun.
In this question, noun, "the jet engine", is far away from that. Moreover, "A jet engine is being tested" is in passive voice.
So, this question doesn't seem like GMAT question.
I understood parallelism error. My doubt is that can GMAT put such question in which one error is corrected and other is ignored?

Please throw light on this doubt.


First, let's address the use of the passive voice.

In many cases the use of the passive voice is clearly sub optimal. When such sentences are presented in GMAT Sentence Correction questions, the correct answers to the questions will be ones that involve use of the active voice rather than use of the passive voice. However, while it is the case that in most cases, use of the active voice will result in a version better than one in which the passive voice is used, the use of the passive voice makes sense in some cases, and, therefore, it is not the case that one can always consider the use of the passive voice to be an error in a Sentence Correction question. Sometimes, the correct answer to a GMAT Sentence Correction question will involve the use of the passive voice.

So, the use of the passive voice in the OA to this question does not constitute an error.

Now let's address the separation of "that" from the noun to which it refers, which is "engine".

It is not entirely correct to say that a restrictive modifier always directly follows that noun that it modifies. Consider the following example:

The house near the center of town that Jim wanted to buy is no longer available.

In the above example, it is clear that Jim didn't want to buy the center of town or the town, he wanted to buy the house. However, the restrictive modifier, "that Jim wanted to buy" is separated from "house" by another modifier, "near the center of town".

This separation is fine, and a sentence structured in this way would be considered correct were it to appear in a Sentence Correction question. As a matter of fact, the entire structure, "house near the center of town", could be considered a noun, in which case, the restrictive modifier, "that Jim wanted to buy" would directly follow the noun that it modifies, "house near the center of town."

However, in the question posted in this thread, we don't have such a situation, we have a noun, "jet engine", followed by a verb, "is being tested", followed by a modifier, "that could eventually propel ..."

As I said in an earlier post, I find this structure to be illogical and awkward, and I can only hope that you won't see such a structure in any other practice question or in any question that you see on the GMAT.

That having been said, it seems worth noting that someone, in an earlier post in this thread, indicated that a GMAT instructor had indicated that, when a sentence includes a modifier that is very long, as the modifier in this sentence is, the verb of the sentence may correctly precede the modifier in order to make identifying the subject-verb relationship easy for a reader.

Therefore, while I personally still do not like this structure, you may want to keep it in mind on the off chance that it appears in a Sentence Correction question on the actual GMAT.
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