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elevinty wrote:
am confused here, what is wrong with D, I think D grammatically is right. "Appear that" is an idiom too, none of you provided an explanation why it is wrong.
??????? I think am missing something here


"appears that" is normally used after "it".
For example: It appears that he has done well in the exam.

It is awkward to say: He appears that he has done well in the exam.
"He appears to have done well in the exam" sounds better.
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sacmanitin wrote:
After suffering $2 billion in losses and 25,000 layoffs, the nation’s semiconductor industry, which makes chips that run everything from computers and spy satellites to dishwashers, appears to have made a long-awaited recovery.


(A) computers and spy satellites to dishwashers, appears to have

(B) computers, spy satellites, and dishwashers, appears having

(C) computers, spy satellites, and dishwashers, appears that it has

(D) computers and spy satellites to dishwashers, appears that it has

(E) computers and spy satellites as well as dishwashers, appears to have



Meaning is crucial to solving this problem:
Understanding the intended meaning is key to solving this question; the intended meaning of this sentence is that the nation’s semiconductor industry makes chips that run everything from computers and spy satellites to dishwashers and appears to have recovered after suffering $2 billion in losses and 25,000 layoffs.

Concepts tested here: Meaning + Idioms

• “from A to B” is an acceptable idiomatic construction; A and B must be comparable and parallel.

A: Correct. This answer choice uses the phrase "appears to have made", conveying the intended meaning - that the nation's semiconductor industry appears to have recovered. Further, Option A uses the correct, idiomatic construction "from A ("computers and spy satellites") to B ("dishwashers").

B: This answer choice alters the meaning of the sentence through the phrase "appears having"; the construction of this phrase leads to an incoherent meaning; the intended meaning is that the nation's semiconductor industry appears to have recovered. Further, Option B incorrectly uses the unidiomatic construction "from A ("computers"),B ("spy satellites"), and C ("dishwashers")" rather than the correct construction "from A to B"; please remember, “from A to B” is an acceptable idiomatic construction; A and B must be comparable and parallel.

C: This answer choice alters the meaning of the sentence through the phrase "appears that it has"; the construction of this phrase leads to an incoherent meaning; the intended meaning is that the nation's semiconductor industry appears to have recovered. Further, Option C incorrectly uses the unidiomatic construction "from A ("computers"), B ("spy satellites"), and C ("dishwashers")" rather than the correct construction "from A to B"; please remember, “from A to B” is an acceptable idiomatic construction; A and B must be comparable and parallel.

D: This answer choice alters the meaning of the sentence through the phrase "appears that it has"; the construction of this phrase leads to an incoherent meaning; the intended meaning is that the nation's semiconductor industry appears to have recovered.

E: This answer choice incorrectly uses the unidiomatic construction "from A ("computers and spy satellites") as well as B ("dishwashers") rather than the correct construction "from A to B"; please remember, “from A to B” is an acceptable idiomatic construction; A and B must be comparable and parallel.

Hence, A is the best answer choice.

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to has is incorrect.
to have is correct.

"have" is used as the infinitive form and not "has"
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am confused here, what is wrong with D, I think D grammatically is right. "Appear that" is an idiom too, none of you provided an explanation why it is wrong.
??????? I think am missing something here
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65. After suffering $2 billion in losses and 25,000 layoffs, the nation’s semiconductor industry, which makes chips that run everything from computers and spy satellites to dishwashers, appears to have made a long-awaited recovery.
(A) computers and spy satellites to dishwashers, appears to have
(B) computers, spy satellites, and dishwashers, appears having
(C) computers, spy satellites, and dishwashers, appears that it has
(D) computers and spy satellites to dishwashers, appears that it has(A)
(E) computers and spy satellites as well as dishwashers, appears to have



A is the right option.

My Analysis is as follows,

Omitting "which makes chips that run everything from computers and spy satellites to dishwashers" as it is optional in the sentence, we see a 3:1:1 split in the choices. "appears to have" is gramatically correct.Hence A and E remains. Comparing the two choices, A is clearly the better choice .
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65. After suffering $2 billion in losses and 25,000 layoffs, the nation’s semiconductor industry, which makes chips that run everything from computers and spy satellites to dishwashers, appears to have made a long-awaited recovery.
(A) computers and spy satellites to dishwashers, appears to have
(B) computers, spy satellites, and dishwashers, appears having
(C) computers, spy satellites, and dishwashers, appears that it has
(D) computers and spy satellites to dishwashers, appears that it has(A)
(E) computers and spy satellites as well as dishwashers, appears to have

what is the correct answer for this ,its given (A) ,whether it should be appears to has or appears to have



Correct Answer: A

First, Sentence uses ...from....to.. construction, Answer should have a word to also.. Eliminate B, C , E.

Second, Divide the sentence and find out the subject, it will help to check the verb agreement.
After suffering $2 billion in losses and 25,000 layoffs, the nation’s semiconductor industry, which makes chips that run everything from computers and spy satellites to dishwashers, appears to have made a long-awaited recovery.

Here, Subject is semiconductor industry, i.e. singular, Verb will be appears not appear. can't eliminate any more option choice.

Now, verb 'appear' should be follow by 'to' for correct sentence construction. Between A & E, A have correct usage as 'appears to have'
Correct Answer A

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Sorry people, cant understand why D is incorrect. Please help. Below is my reasoning.

the nation’s semiconductor industry (this is singular) has/have made a long-awaited recovery.-- I would go with 'has' here, please let me know this is incorrect.
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Sorry people, cant understand why D is incorrect. Please help. Below is my reasoning.

the nation’s semiconductor industry (this is singular) has/have made a long-awaited recovery.-- I would go with 'has' here, please let me know this is incorrect.


65. After suffering $2 billion in losses and 25,000 layoffs, the nation’s semiconductor industry, which makes chips that run everything from computers and spy satellites to dishwashers, appears to have made a long-awaited recovery.
(A) computers and spy satellites to dishwashers, appears to have
(B) computers, spy satellites, and dishwashers, appears having
(C) computers, spy satellites, and dishwashers, appears that it has
(D) computers and spy satellites to dishwashers, appears that it has(A)
(E) computers and spy satellites as well as dishwashers, appears to have


Notice that in Sentence A the main verb is appears which is singular and goes with subject nation's semiconductor industry.

in option D "that it has" actually makes the sentence redundant and long.
the nation’s semiconductor industry, which makes chips that run everything from computers and spy satellites to dishwashers,appears that it has made a long-awaited recovery

"The semiconductor industry appears that it has made -------> The construction doesn't make sense"

A does a much better job here

More explanation is here :https://gmatclub.com/forum/after-suffering-2-billion-in-losses-and-25-000-layoffs-the-82694.html#p1164316

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Thank you every body for your responses. I can not understand why D is wrong.

My approach to the question:

1. Eliminate B,C and E- The correct idiom should be "from A and B to C". With this step we only have two possible answers A or D.

2. Semiconductor Industry is a singular subject, so we should use appears (A and D use appears). but I do not know why we should use have and not has. For me the correct form should be has. I am confused.

In the verbal review 2nd edition the explanation says: The main verb appears is intansitive and is most efficiently followed by the infinitive form TO HAVE.
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Thank you every body for your responses. I can not understand why D is wrong.

My approach to the question:

1. Eliminate B,C and E- The correct idiom should be "from A and B to C". With this step we only have two possible answers A or D.

2. Semiconductor Industry is a singular subject, so we should use appears (A and D use appears). but I do not know why we should use have and not has. For me the correct form should be has. I am confused.

In the verbal review 2nd edition the explanation says: The main verb appears is intansitive and is most efficiently followed by the infinitive form TO HAVE.

As shirvats rightly pointed out in the mail above, the only instance that comes to my mind, when appears that would be correct is in: It appears that... construct, where it is used as a placeholder.

to have made in option A is a perfect infinitive. The perfect infinitive has an interesting usage, in that it always indicates that its action happened before the action of the main verb of the clause. A question that comes to mind is # 76 in OG-13 (Combining enormous physical strength with higher intelligence...); you might want to look into it.

p.s. Perfect infinitive has been discussed in detail in our book. If you can PM me your mail id, I can send the corresponding section to you.
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in the pattern

appear to have done

have done show an action which happen before "appear" or which finished before "appear". pls, explain

I want to know of the relation between these two verbs
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vietmoi999 wrote:
in the pattern

appear to have done

have done show an action which happen before "appear" or which finished before "appear". pls, explain

You are right; this is exactly what it depicts. In appear to have done, the act of doing finished before appears.

So, here, appears is simple present tense, and so, the perfect infinitive acts as present perfect (the act of doing finished at some unspecified time before now).

If the phrase was appeared to have, then perfect infinitive would act as past perfect.
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In SC ,look out for logical errors too ,
In this example :
After suffering $2 billion in losses and 25,000 layoffs, the nation’s semiconductor industry, which makes chips that run everything from computers and spy satellites to dishwashers, appears to have made a long-awaited recovery.

In the the highlighted part computers and spy satellites to dishwashers is a modifier .Read the sentence after removing it and option [A] and [E] will stand out .
Now look at the meaning conveyed by the modifier : computers and spy satellites to dishwashers The semiconductor industry makes everything including computers ,spy satellites to dishwaters.[E] distorts this message by saying computers and spy satellites as well as dishwashers

A is the answer .

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After suffering $2 billion in losses and 25,000 layoffs, the nation’s semiconductor industry, which makes chips that run everything from computers and spy satellites to dishwashers, appears to have made a long-awaited recovery.
(A) computers and spy satellites to dishwashers, appears to have - Correct
(B) computers, spy satellites, and dishwashers, appears having - From X to Y is correct idiom ; appears having is incorrect, appears is followed by to verb form
(C) computers, spy satellites, and dishwashers, appears that it has - From X to Y is correct idiom ; appears that is incorrect
(D) computers and spy satellites to dishwashers, appears that it has - appears that is incorrect
(E) computers and spy satellites as well as dishwashers, appears to have - From X to Y is correct idiom

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After suffering $2 billion in losses and 25,000 layoffs, the nation’s semiconductor industry, which makes chips that run everything from computers and spy satellites to dishwashers, appears to have made a long-awaited recovery.

Issue: Idiom | Construction

Analysis:
1. Since the non-underlined part of the sentence specified "everything from...", we need "to" to complete the phrase "from X to Y".
2. Core of the sentence: "...industry(, which....,) appears to have made a recovery". "appears having..." and "appears that it has..." have the wrong verb form.


(A) computers and spy satellites to dishwashers, appears to have

(B) computers, spy satellites, and dishwashers, appears having
- Unidiomatic; Uses "and" instead of a "to"
- Incorrect verb form: "having"


(C) computers, spy satellites, and dishwashers, appears that it has
- Unidiomatic; Uses "and" instead of a "to"
- Incorrect construction: "that it has"


(D) computers and spy satellites to dishwashers, appears that it has
- Incorrect construction: "that it has"

(E) computers and spy satellites as well as dishwashers, appears to have
- Unidiomatic; Uses "as well as" instead of a "to"

Answer: (A)
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VeritasPrepKarishma, GMATNinja ,

Please clarify Why D is wrong. Is "appears that it has" wrong?


hao922 wrote:
elevinty wrote:
am confused here, what is wrong with D, I think D grammatically is right. "Appear that" is an idiom too, none of you provided an explanation why it is wrong.
??????? I think am missing something here


"appears that" is normally used after "it".
For example: It appears that he has done well in the exam.

It is awkward to say: He appears that he has done well in the exam.
"He appears to have done well in the exam" sounds better.
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gmatbusters wrote:
VeritasPrepKarishma, GMATNinja ,

Please clarify Why D is wrong. Is "appears that it has" wrong?


hao922 wrote:
elevinty wrote:
am confused here, what is wrong with D, I think D grammatically is right. "Appear that" is an idiom too, none of you provided an explanation why it is wrong.
??????? I think am missing something here


"appears that" is normally used after "it".
For example: It appears that he has done well in the exam.

It is awkward to say: He appears that he has done well in the exam.
"He appears to have done well in the exam" sounds better.


Remove the modifiers and look at the structure of the sentence.

... the semiconductor industry ... appears that ...
is unidiomatic.
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