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After the 2010 census, Texas, the second most populous

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After the 2010 census, Texas, the second most populous state, has 38 electoral votes, 17 votes less than that of California.
(A) has 38 electoral votes, 17 votes less than that of California
(D) with 38 electoral votes, 17 votes fewer than that of California
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05 Jul 2012, 12:35
E

we use fewer for countable items (17 votes);however, i got stuck between D and E and choose E

I think in D subordinate clause "than that of California" is unnecessary

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05 Jul 2012, 13:26
D lacks main verb.

ANother issue with D - That of California = 38 electoral votes of California.

E is perfect.
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05 Jul 2012, 19:54
By removing the unnecessary clauses, we are left with "...Texas...". So the answer has to be one of the choices with "has".

Since votes are countable, use "fewer" and not "less".

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05 Jul 2012, 23:25
(E) wins

Fewer than is the most suitable
than that of is unnecessary.
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05 Jul 2012, 23:52
picked d. thought it had "has" as well

E is the right one.
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After the 2010 census, Texas, the second most populous state, has 38 electoral votes, 17 votes less than that of California.
(A) has 38 electoral votes, 17 votes less than that of California -- Not correct
(B) has 38 electoral votes, 17 votes less than California-- Not correct
(C) with 38 electoral votes, 17 votes less than California-- Not correct
(D) with 38 electoral votes, 17 votes fewer than that of California--that of California is redundant
(E) has 38 electoral votes, 17 votes fewer than California- California (has)-- Correct

A, B n C -- less than used when noun is non-countable and fewer is used when noun is countable
E- seems more correct

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Eliminate A,B,C because an adjective "less" is used for countable noun "Votes".
Eliminate D because "the second most populous state" works as additive to Texas. Texas with 38 electoral votes.Seem inappropriate

So answer is E with correct sound Texas has 38 electoral votes.

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mikemcgarry wrote:
After the 2010 census, Texas, the second most populous state, has 38 electoral votes, 17 votes less than that of California.
(A) has 38 electoral votes, 17 votes less than that of California
(D) with 38 electoral votes, 17 votes fewer than that of California

vote is a countable entity. Hence 'less' is incorrect, 'few' is correct. That leaves us with option (D) and (E).
In (D),'that' is referring to votes. The construction '17 votes fewer than votes of California' is very awkward and does not convey that intended comparison as clearly as option (E). Also, (D) is missing the main verb

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mikemcgarry wrote:
After the 2010 census, Texas, the second most populous state, has 38 electoral votes, 17 votes less than that of California.
(A) has 38 electoral votes, 17 votes less than that of California
(D) with 38 electoral votes, 17 votes fewer than that of California

here , if 'those of ' used in place of 'that of' , will that makes option D correct?
what is the ellipsis in option 'E' . I do not remember a official ques , in which option similar to E is correct . mikemcgarry please help.
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anje29 wrote:
mikemcgarry wrote:
After the 2010 census, Texas, the second most populous state, has 38 electoral votes, 17 votes less than that of California.
(A) has 38 electoral votes, 17 votes less than that of California
(D) with 38 electoral votes, 17 votes fewer than that of California

here , if 'those of ' used in place of 'that of' , will that makes option D correct?
what is the ellipsis in option 'E' . I do not remember a official ques , in which option similar to E is correct . mikemcgarry please help.

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Notice that (D) has no verb. The entire sentence would be without a verb---the famous missing verb mistake. That's a big problem with (D).

Suppose, we change (D) to give it a verb and to change "that" to "those"
(D1) has 38 electoral votes, 17 votes fewer than those of California
Meh! This is grammatically correct, but baggy and bloated, not elegant and appealing. Version (E) has much more "snap" than this.

You see, a big part of GMAT SC is rhetorical construction. The GMAT likes language that is direct, concise, and powerful. It likes a crisp down-to-business tone. Let the poets construct meandering sentences that wander on before they get to a point! The business world doesn't have time for that. Time is money, and the language reflects that.

"Texas" is the subject of the sentence, so the comparison to "California" puts it in a parallel subject role. I guess you would say that simply the verb "has" has been omitted.

Does this make sense?
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mikemcgarry wrote:
anje29 wrote:
mikemcgarry wrote:
After the 2010 census, Texas, the second most populous state, has 38 electoral votes, 17 votes less than that of California.
(A) has 38 electoral votes, 17 votes less than that of California
(D) with 38 electoral votes, 17 votes fewer than that of California

here , if 'those of ' used in place of 'that of' , will that makes option D correct?
what is the ellipsis in option 'E' . I do not remember a official ques , in which option similar to E is correct . mikemcgarry please help.

Dear anje29

Notice that (D) has no verb. The entire sentence would be without a verb---the famous missing verb mistake. That's a big problem with (D).

Suppose, we change (D) to give it a verb and to change "that" to "those"
(D1) has 38 electoral votes, 17 votes fewer than those of California
Meh! This is grammatically correct, but baggy and bloated, not elegant and appealing. Version (E) has much more "snap" than this.

You see, a big part of GMAT SC is rhetorical construction. The GMAT likes language that is direct, concise, and powerful. It likes a crisp down-to-business tone. Let the poets construct meandering sentences that wander on before they get to a point! The business world doesn't have time for that. Time is money, and the language reflects that.

"Texas" is the subject of the sentence, so the comparison to "California" puts it in a parallel subject role. I guess you would say that simply the verb "has" has been omitted.

Does this make sense?
Mike

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