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Yes I agree. In fact, if one is doing good then he will not face any such problem.
This problem is a special case of such problems where we can eliminate the answer choices just on the basis of referent.
Regarding the concision issue, I asked Tommy about this and he told that concision should be taken as last resort. Their might be several issues with the help of which we can eliminate the answer choices.
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New post 31 Oct 2012, 12:33
I dont know you know.
Tangible concision is my fav way to eliminate answers
like annual per year
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these are almost always wrong and I used to fail to notice these apparently insignificant things.
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New post 31 Oct 2012, 18:04
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The issue raised here is the referent.
In A, what is "its" referring to? State's economy or state
In B, what is "they" referring to?
In D, what is "its" referring to?
In E, what is "they" referring to?

A good advice: When you encounter any of the deadly five: it, its, they, their and one more, just get to their referent. If there is an ambiguity, immediately eliminate it.
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the It in has to refer to State's right... there is no ambiguity here!

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Alaska regularly deposits some of its profits from the sale of oil into a special fund, with the intention to sustain the state's economy after the exhaustion of its oil reserves.

(A) fund, with the intention to sustain the state's economy after the exhaustion of its oil reserves
(B) fund, the intention of which is to sustain the state's economy after they have exhausted their oil reserves
(C) fund intended to sustain the state's economy after oil reserves are exhausted
(D) fund intended to sustain the state's economy after exhausting its oil reserves
(E) fund that they intend to sustain the state's economy after oil reserves are exhausted

OA after some discussion....


One more confusion , IN option C it says "after oil reserves are exhausted " so after whose "oil reserves are exhausted" the funds will support the state's economy?

Besides that why is A wrong? Any one has good explanation for this problem?

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(A) fund, with the intention to sustain the state's economy after the exhaustion of its oil reserves - usage of its is wrong
(B) fund, the intention of which is to sustain the state's economy after they have exhausted their oil reserves - refers to the intention of the funds not that of the state
(C) fund intended to sustain the state's economy after oil reserves are exhausted - Correct
(D) fund intended to sustain the state's economy after exhausting its oil reserves - wrong usage of its
(E) fund that they intend to sustain the state's economy after oil reserves are exhausted - fund is not intending to do anything but the state is

Correct choice - C

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73. Alaska regularly deposits some of its profits from the sale of oil into a special
fund, with the intention to sustain the state’s economy after the exhaustion of its
oil reserves.
(A) fund, with the intention to sustain the state’s economy after the exhaustion of
its oil reserves0
(B) fund, the intention of which is to sustain the state’s economy after they have
exhausted their oil reserves
(C) fund intended to sustain the state’s economy after oil reserves are exhausted
(D) fund intended to sustain the state’s economy after exhausting its oil reserves
(E) fund that they intend to sustain the state’s economy after oil reserves are
exhausted

Why A is wrong & C is right ? .... is it due to : " .. fund, with the intention to sustain .... & ....fund intended to sustain ...." .... please explain in detail ??

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73. Alaska regularly deposits some of its profits from the sale of oil into a special
fund, with the intention to sustain the state’s economy after the exhaustion of its
oil reserves.
(A) fund, with the intention to sustain the state’s economy after the exhaustion of
its oil reserves0
(B) fund, the intention of which is to sustain the state’s economy after they have
exhausted their oil reserves
(C) fund intended to sustain the state’s economy after oil reserves are exhausted
(D) fund intended to sustain the state’s economy after exhausting its oil reserves
(E) fund that they intend to sustain the state’s economy after oil reserves are
exhausted

Why A is wrong & C is right ? .... is it due to : " .. fund, with the intention to sustain .... & ....fund intended to sustain ...." .... please explain in detail ??


IMHO I dont find anything wrong with A as far as grammar is concerned. I think C gains preference only due to concision.

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73. Alaska regularly deposits some of its profits from the sale of oil into a special
fund, with the intention to sustain the state’s economy after the exhaustion of its
oil reserves.
(A) fund, with the intention to sustain the state’s economy after the exhaustion of
its oil reserves0 with the intention, wordy
(B) fund, the intention of which is to sustain the state’s economy after they have
exhausted their oil reserves the intention of which... wordy
(C) fund intended to sustain the state’s economy after oil reserves are exhausted correct
(D) fund intended to sustain the state’s economy after exhausting its oil reserves tense error. after exhausting vs after exhausted
(E) fund that they intend to sustain the state’s economy after oil reserves are
exhaustedthat??? they??? who is they? Alaska should be treated singularly here

Why A is wrong & C is right ? .... is it due to : " .. fund, with the intention to sustain .... & ....fund intended to sustain ...." .... please explain in detail ??


IMO, A is ruled out because of concision properties. In one of the Manhattan chapters the rule was to drive the VAN. Prefer verb over adjective over Noun. What you can say concisely in fund intended is not so concise in fund, with the intention of.

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Alaska regularly deposits some of its profits from the sale of oil into a special fund, with the intention to sustain the state's economy after the exhaustion
of its oil reserves.


(A) fund, with the intention to sustain the state's economy after the exhaustion of its oil reserves.
(B) fund, the intention of which is to sustain the state's economy after they have exhausted their oil reserves
(C) fund intended to sustain the state's economy after oil reserves are exhausted
(D) fund intended to sustain the state's economy after exhausting its oil reserves
(E) fund that they intend to sustain the state's economy after oil reserves are exhausted

My preference was to D official answer is C

Apart from this i have also one query.
In choice A "with the intension .........oil reserves" seems to modify the verb 'deposits'
Inchoice C "intended to .............are exhausted" seems to modify 'fund'
How should one decide/recognize which word logically be modified by the modifier.
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(D) fund intended to sustain the state's economy after exhausting its oil reserves
-- The pronoun "its" is ambiguous, it can refer to both economy or alaska. Hence choice (D) is incorrect.



Apart from this i have also one query.
In choice A "with the intention .........oil reserves" seems to modify the verb 'deposits'
-- Choice (A) has redundant comma prefixed to "with", because of which the "with clause" appears to modify the entire first part of the sentence. Such constructions are usually less preferred in GMAT (including few OG solutions). And yes, "with intention" refers to the Alaska's action "deposits".

Inchoice C "intended to .............are exhausted" seems to modify 'fund'. How should one decide/recognize which word logically be modified by the modifier.
This is VERB-ED type modifier. Refer to below article and you will be more clear about this type of modifier.
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A is incorrect because it is wordy.

B is incorrect is wordy too and uses "they" without giving it a proper antecedent. One could assume "they" refers to "Alaska", but that would also be incorrect as Alaska is not a group of anything.

D is incorrect because it implies that the fund itself will exhaust the oil reserves. D is incorrect because it modifies the sentence's meaning.

E is incorrect because of the ambiguous "they".

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My preference was to D official answer is C
(D) fund intended to sustain the state's economy after exhausting its oil reserves
-- The pronoun "its" is ambiguous, it can refer to both economy or alaska. Hence choice (D) is incorrect.



Apart from this i have also one query.
In choice A "with the intention .........oil reserves" seems to modify the verb 'deposits'
-- Choice (A) has redundant comma prefixed to "with", because of which the "with clause" appears to modify the entire first part of the sentence. Such constructions are usually less preferred in GMAT (including few OG solutions). And yes, "with intention" refers to the Alaska's action "deposits".

Inchoice C "intended to .............are exhausted" seems to modify 'fund'. How should one decide/recognize which word logically be modified by the modifier.
This is VERB-ED type modifier. Refer to below article and you will be more clear about this type of modifier.
ed-forms-verbs-or-modifiers-134691.html


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I am still not able to understand why "A" is wrong.
I think the author intends to say "Alaska deposits the money...with an intention to sustain economy".
But option "C" talks about the intention with which the fund was created. Why is "C" correct even though it changes the meaning?

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C - uses "intended" as Noun Modifier modifying "fund".

A - uses "with the intention" as verb modifier modifying verb "deposits"

Why C : 1. Problem of "its " in A

2. C - Worded concisely.
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Alaska regularly deposits some of its profits from the sale of oil into a special fund, with the intention to sustain the state’s economy after the exhaustion of its oil reserves.

A) fund, with the intention to sustain the state’s economy after the exhaustion of its oil reserves
B) fund, the intention of which is to sustain the state’s economy after they have exhausted their oil reserves
C) fund intended to sustain the state’s economy after oil reserves are exhausted
D) fund intended to sustain the state’s economy after exhausting its oil reserves
E) fund that they intend to sustain the state’s economy after oil reserves are exhausted

I was doubting between options A and C. The key to discarding A was the fact that "intention to sustain" is wrong. It should be "intention of sustaining".

However, I have a question regarding the logicality of option C. Can a fund sustain (or be intended to sustain) somebody or something? I do not think so.

Your thoughts on this latter doubt will be greatly appreciated.

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The answer is C. Before going into the explanation consider the following example of official GMAT paper test

Asset allocators create portfolios, often in the form of mutual funds, with the intention to turn in good results in both “bull” and “bear” markets.

(A) with the intention
(B) the intention of which is
(C) intended
(D) and intending
(E) so intended as

Here the ans is C. coz it clearly refers to the what the portfolios are created for. They are created for turning in good results.

Whereas, "with the intention" shifts the referent to the Asset allocators, thereby distorting the intended meaning.

The same logic can be extended to the discussed question.

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Alaska regularly deposits some of its profits from the sale of oil into a special fund, with the intention to sustain the state’s economy after the exhaustion of its oil reserves.
(A) fund, with the intention to sustain the state’s economy after the exhaustion of its oil reserves
(B) fund, the intention of which is to sustain the state’s economy after they have exhausted their oil reserves
(C) fund intended to sustain the state’s economy after oil reserves are exhausted
(D) fund intended to sustain the state’s economy after exhausting its oil reserves
(E) fund that they intend to sustain the state’s economy after oil reserves are exhausted

Can someone explain why "..... fund intended to..." is working on this sentence? I can't understand what role does "intended to" play here?

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Why is D incorrect? In D it is clear that the state's oil reserves, in C this clarity is missing.

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