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Albert Einstein dropped out of school before he reached the

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Albert Einstein dropped out of school before he reached the age of fifteen and, without a certificate, was not accepted into the Polytechnic school in Zurich.

A) dropped out of school before he reached the age of fifteen and, without a certificate, was
B) had dropped out of school before he reached the age of fifteen and, without a certificate, was
C) dropped out of school, without a certificate, before he reached the age of fifteen and, was
D) had dropped out of school before he reached the age of fifteen and, not having received a certificate, was
E) had dropped out of school before he reached the age of fifteen and, without a certificate, were
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to me both A and B seems OK .
i mean the sequence of events are pretty much clear in A as well because of the usage of "before" .
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I would go with A, it seem more paralell than B
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to me both A and B seems OK .
i mean the sequence of events are pretty much clear in A as well because of the usage of "before" .




I suppose A will do, there is not much difference in A and B as "Before" is used, use of HAD is redundant ..
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New post 02 Jun 2014, 17:43
Selected A over B
Since the sequence of tenses is already clear in Option A, usage of 'HAD' looks redundant in option B.
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I will go with B , as the sequence of events requires the use of past perfect tense, Albert Einstein dropped of from school( an event before another event in past)before he was 15( the later event in past)

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Albert Einstein dropped out of school before he reached the age of fifteen and, without a certificate, was not accepted into the Polytechnic school in Zurich.

A) dropped out of school before he reached the age of fifteen and, without a certificate, was
perfect tense is required
B) had dropped out of school before he reached the age of fifteen and, without a certificate, was
Correct as one event is happening before the other event and has the bearing on the later event
C) dropped out of school, without a certificate, before he reached the age of fifteen and, was
Changes the meaning.
D) had dropped out of school before he reached the age of fifteen and, not having received a certificate, was
not having is not required.
E) had dropped out of school before he reached the age of fifteen and, without a certificate, were
Were is wrong.

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Use perfect tense only if there is a bearing of one action on the other.

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Re: Albert Einstein dropped out of school before he reached the [#permalink]

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I would like to reinforce the post above.

How A is the possible answer ??'

is parallel, yes sure but here is not tested a parallel structure rather a tense form and an unfolding of different time frames.

B must be correct
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Albert Einstein dropped out of school before he reached the age of fifteen and, without a certificate, was not accepted into the Polytechnic school in Zurich.

A) dropped out of school before he reached the age of fifteen and, without a certificate, was
B) had dropped out of school before he reached the age of fifteen and, without a certificate, was
C) dropped out of school, without a certificate, before he reached the age of fifteen and, was
D) had dropped out of school before he reached the age of fifteen and, not having received a certificate, was
E) had dropped out of school before he reached the age of fifteen and, without a certificate, were


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Re: Albert Einstein dropped out of school before he reached the [#permalink]

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to me both A and B seems OK .
i mean the sequence of events are pretty much clear in A as well because of the usage of "before" .

Dear aditya8062,
I'm happy to respond to your private message. :-)

Frankly, I don't think this is a very good question. In a good GMAT question, (a) every wrong answer is clearly and unambiguously wrong, and (b) as a rule, most incorrect answers test more than one thing at a time. For example, there may be verb splits and also pronoun problems. The only time a wrong answer has only one mistakes is if that mistake is 100% beyond ambiguity.

This question falls abysmally short of that high standard. The only split between (A) & (B) is the verb tense. This is NOT a case in which the past perfect tense is absolutely demanded. It's actually debatable whether the past or past perfect is preferable. The word "before" seems to indicate time sequence unambiguously, and the GMAT general discourages "doubling up" the indicators of time sequence. Parallelism is simply not an issue at all in determining the correct tense, because it's perfectly acceptable for verbs of different tenses to be in parallel. See:
http://magoosh.com/gmat/2012/gmat-gramm ... rb-tenses/
Thus, (A) & (B) provide an ambiguous split, and the authors provided no other mistake that would let us decide between these two choices. This is a question that falls well short of the lofty standards that the GMAT has established.

I do like the fact that the question is about Einstein. Nothing wrong with learning more about Einstein!

Here's a much higher quality GMAT SC practice question:
http://gmat.magoosh.com/questions/3221

Does all this make sense?
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This question falls abysmally short of that high standard.


hi mike
this is exactly what i thought when i had read this question

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This is NOT a case in which the past perfect tense is absolutely demanded. It's actually debatable whether the past or past perfect is preferable. The word "before" seems to indicate time sequence unambiguously, and the GMAT general discourages "doubling up" the indicators of time sequence.


thanks for corroborating my logic
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Completely agree with you and aditya. And the presence of before makes had usage redundant. Hence don't think the OA should be B. Answer should be A.

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Although i agree that we have a rule which says "do not use after/before with a perfect tense"

I am not sure if the rule is followed always by the GMAT.
I have seen a problem in the GMAT prep where this rule is not followed.
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Albert Einstein dropped out of school before he reached the age of fifteen and, without a certificate, was not accepted into the Polytechnic school in Zurich.

A) dropped out of school before he reached the age of fifteen and, without a certificate, was
B) had dropped out of school before he reached the age of fifteen and, without a certificate, was
C) dropped out of school, without a certificate, before he reached the age of fifteen and, was
D) had dropped out of school before he reached the age of fifteen and, not having received a certificate, was
E) had dropped out of school before he reached the age of fifteen and, without a certificate, were


Ans: B

A and C are wrong because the he dropped out of school before not getting accepted. So past perfect will be used.
D is clearly wrong and Option E has a S-V error at the end
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