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# All 2018 MBA Rankings

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08 Feb 2011, 14:44
Attached is a average of rankings from multiple full time programs. Not all inclusive but still may help in your research.
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08 Feb 2011, 18:29
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Attached is a average of rankings from multiple full time programs. Not all inclusive but still may help in your research.

Dude, nice chart - but where is Haas, for example? I do love Ross too, but it's debatable whether it's Top10 over, say, Berkeley.

It's funny, though, to see how all of us tend to make a serf-serving argument about the "Top X" of our desired school. I saw a very funny - and spot-on - definition on Business Week forum:

"The label M7 is a far less official term than "ivy league".

The ivy league itself is an athletic conference in which members set high standards for student athletes. People have come to associate it with academics.

The forum legend is that "M7" was coined by a Columbia dean who referred to a meeting of top business schools. It is a challenge to find any business school that uses that term in their admissions materials or websites (contrast this with the use of the 'ivy league' name).

To be blunt, people use these terms to associate their schools with better ranked schools. How often do you hear HBS bragging about being in the M7? Or Yale reminding people it's in the Ivy League?

Here's a quick guide:

If someone describes their school as the top ranked school, they go to HBS or Stanford
If someone says they go to a "Top 3" school, they go to Wharton
If someone says they go to a "Top 5" school, its either Chicago, Kellogg, or MIT Sloan
If someone says they're in the "M7", they go to Columbia
If someone says "Top 10", they mean Tuck, Ross, Haas, or <insert whatever school you insist belongs in the top ten, thus proving my point".

My opinion? It doesn't really matter. As long as it is a "brand-name" - and the list is known (it's the "Top 10 Plus" (about 15-16, actually) - you can get anywhere you want. It's all up to you, your ambition and ability to (net)work hard.
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09 Feb 2011, 11:40
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^^^I found them on the FT website today.... here is a PDF:

http://rankings.ft.com/exportranking/gl ... nkings/pdf

That's the 2010 rankings. The article specifically mentions that it would be the 2011 rankings that come out next week.

2011 MBA rankings from Financial Times: http://rankings.ft.com/businessschoolra ... kings-2011
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10 Feb 2011, 04:27
Thanks! +1. I will update the rankings soon.
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Updated the table and XLS files with the 2011 Financial Times rankings.
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14 Feb 2011, 08:02
AgeDoesntMatter wrote:

Here's a quick guide:

If someone describes their school as the top ranked school, they go to HBS or Stanford
If someone says they go to a "Top 3" school, they go to Wharton
If someone says they go to a "Top 5" school, its either Chicago, Kellogg, or MIT Sloan
If someone says they're in the "M7", they go to Columbia
If someone says "Top 10", they mean Tuck, Ross, Haas, or <insert whatever school you insist belongs in the top ten, thus proving my point".

LOL!! +1
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14 Feb 2011, 09:57
brainhurt wrote:
AgeDoesntMatter wrote:

Here's a quick guide:

If someone describes their school as the top ranked school, they go to HBS or Stanford
If someone says they go to a "Top 3" school, they go to Wharton
If someone says they go to a "Top 5" school, its either Chicago, Kellogg, or MIT Sloan
If someone says they're in the "M7", they go to Columbia
If someone says "Top 10", they mean Tuck, Ross, Haas, or <insert whatever school you insist belongs in the top ten, thus proving my point".

LOL!! +1

I agree completely - fun analysis
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16 Feb 2011, 14:45
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How far down do you have to dig for the different methodologies used to rank the schools? I've seen some wildly disparate rankings such as a WSJ poll ranking Ross #1 (based solely on recruiter feedback) and an Economist poll ranking Haas #1.

It seems most rankings tend to go by brand (HBS, Stanford, etc. at the top) but then I am amazed that Fuqua is number 6 in the newest Business Week raninkings. I like Fuqua a lot, but the school is in it's infancy compared to the other top schools so I'm surprised to see it rise so high. I wouldn't think it would have the same strength of brand and network as it's competitors. Friends of mine who have gone to top schools swear that you are paying for the brand and access to the network - fit and all of that other stuff are really just for the ad comms to decide if they want you.

And I knew HBS and Stanford were getting younger, but wow... 3.5 years average work experience? (Disclaimer: I'd go to HBS or Stanford if I was admitted) One of the biggest reasons to attend an MBA program is to learn from your peers. You lose 135 years of knowledge in an HBS section of 90 students compared to most other schools. That seems pretty significant, but doesn't seem to hurt their standing at the top.
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One of the biggest reasons to attend an MBA program is to learn from your peers. You lose 135 years of knowledge in an HBS section of 90 students compared to most other schools. That seems pretty significant, but doesn't seem to hurt their standing at the top.

I definitively agree with the statement above. H/S become younger and one loses a tone of experience if admitted to younger class/interacting with younger peers. just my few cents.

However, here is hidden part of the coin: H/S MBA alumni are younger than average MBA alumni so their life-long earnings are higher <-this may partially explain why gradutaes of H/S earn more in average.
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17 Feb 2011, 09:36
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One of the biggest reasons to attend an MBA program is to learn from your peers. You lose 135 years of knowledge in an HBS section of 90 students compared to most other schools. That seems pretty significant, but doesn't seem to hurt their standing at the top.

I definitively agree with the statement above. H/S become younger and one loses a tone of experience if admitted to younger class/interacting with younger peers. just my few cents.

However, here is hidden part of the coin: H/S MBA alumni are younger than average MBA alumni so their life-long earnings are higher <-this may partially explain why gradutaes of H/S earn more in average.

I have to disagree with what you said a bit.

The student body doesn't lose that much if the class has an avg of 3-4 years of experience; after 2 good years of experience, you are not bringing much in an MBA setting. You may want to look for an Executive MBA then. MBA is positioning you in a leadership position, and the schools are picking those who have shown skills, interest, and desire to do so. Harvard and Stanford get the best applicants with 3-4 years of experience (usually the "best" work experience), therein the average of their class. In visits at multiple schools- Harvard, MIT and Tuck- the admission person would often say that after 2 years, it really does not matter, they can see the picture: you are either interested and capable at being a leader or you are not.

The reality is, most applicants, would show their interest and capabilities at being a leader -aka taking leadership positions after 3-4 years of experience at your job usually. Because of that most schools have a higher average.
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17 Feb 2011, 11:50
Only 22% of people at Yale receive financial aid? Am I reading that correctly?
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17 Feb 2011, 23:51
Hi,

I have a question. Is the age, the age when you begin your MBA, or it is the age when you are admitted ?
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18 Feb 2011, 05:01
This should be the age at matriculation. Guys, correct me if I'm wrong.
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I have a question. Is the age, the age when you begin your MBA, or it is the age when you are admitted ?

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This should be the age at matriculation. Guys, correct me if I'm wrong.
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Hi,

I have a question. Is the age, the age when you begin your MBA, or it is the age when you are admitted ?

Thanks dzyubam.

Forgive me for the further inconvenience, but the matriculation age is then your age when you begin your classes, not the age when you are admitted or when you applied ?

PS: I am non-US, therefore I am unfamiliar with some notions natural to you
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18 Feb 2011, 06:30
amaterasu wrote:
dzyubam wrote:
This should be the age at matriculation. Guys, correct me if I'm wrong.
amaterasu wrote:
Hi,

I have a question. Is the age, the age when you begin your MBA, or it is the age when you are admitted ?

Thanks dzyubam.

Forgive me for the further inconvenience, but the matriculation age is then your age when you begin your classes, not the age when you are admitted or when you applied ?

PS: I am non-US, therefore I am unfamiliar with some notions natural to you

It's age at matriculation.
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Guys, here is a comprehensive "Decade" ranking of all the top MBA programs. I used the BW, USN, and FT to compile the rankings. I created it because I wanted to see how the programs hold their rankings over time.

Enjoy!

Final Rankings based on Averages
Rank School
1 HBS
2 Wharton
3 Stanford
4 Chicago
5 Kellogg
6 MIT
6 Columbia
8 Tuck
9 Haas
9 Ross
9 Duke
12 NYU
13 Yale
14 Darden
14 UCLA
16 Cornell
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Guys, here is a comprehensive "Decade" ranking of all the top MBA programs. I used the BW, USN, and FT to compile the rankings. I created it because I wanted to see how the programs hold their rankings over time.

Enjoy!

Great stuff man!
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Guys, here is a comprehensive "Decade" ranking of all the top MBA programs. I used the BW, USN, and FT to compile the rankings. I created it because I wanted to see how the programs hold their rankings over time.

Enjoy!

Stern was placed by FT 13th and 15th in 2010 and 2011 and not 8th and 7th (cells J17, K17)
Haas is often place 28th and 30th in FT rankings.

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rpratt620 wrote:
Guys, here is a comprehensive "Decade" ranking of all the top MBA programs. I used the BW, USN, and FT to compile the rankings. I created it because I wanted to see how the programs hold their rankings over time.

Enjoy!

Stern was placed by FT 13th and 15th in 2010 and 2011 and not 8th and 7th (cells J17, K17)
Haas is often place 28th and 30th in FT rankings.

gimme back my kudos

Given that I was only comparing American schools in this ranking I removed international schools from the FT ranking. That explains why American schools are ranked higher in my spreadsheet than on the actual FT rankings.
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Given that I was only comparing American schools in this ranking I removed international schools from the FT ranking. That explains why American schools are ranked higher in my spreadsheet than on the actual FT rankings.

Sorry

for me Tuck, placed 18th is way ahead of IE (spain) placed 8th.
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