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# Although people in France consume fatty foods at a rate

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29 Oct 2010, 00:19
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OA is B, not E, so you picked the right ans

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29 Oct 2010, 00:21
I too picked B. Was wondering why E.

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29 Oct 2010, 00:34
bogos wrote:
OA is B, not E, so you picked the right ans

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Haha man... I feel like an idiot trying to figure out how B can be wrong without double checking E.

E) The rate of people consuming sounds as if the rate is consuming fatty foods.
about the same is very informal and awkward.

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30 Oct 2010, 00:23
"The rate of people consuming" actually sounds like the rate at which people are being consumed.

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30 Oct 2010, 00:27
oh dear lord! sorry about that guys.

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03 Jan 2011, 12:52
My first answer was D but now I am convinced its B...

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12 Aug 2011, 11:42
A is wrong for bad comparison.
B is correct
C is wrong for awkward construction.
D and E are unidiomatic ( the rate at which fatty acids... is idiomatic)

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15 Aug 2011, 03:34
B

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17 Aug 2011, 01:38
After reading everyone explanation, i find B is correct one, even i chosen D as Answer. thanks to everyone

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22 Aug 2011, 02:57
Modifier issue.
"at a comprable rate" is not clearly modifying any sentence.
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04 Sep 2011, 00:00
The only problem with the original statement is "their" which is ambiguous in it's reference.
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04 Sep 2011, 03:28
A) people in France consume fatty foods at a rate comparable to the United States, their (comparing people with United States- Wrong
(B) people in France and the United States consume fatty foods at about the same rate, the (Sound ok)
(C) fatty foods are consumed by people in France at a comparable rate to the United States’s, their wrong comparison
(D) the rate of fatty foods consumed in France and the United States is about the same, the (Who is consuming ? / Death rates of what- not clear)
(E) the rate of people consuming fatty foods is about the same in France and the United States, the (rate of people---- It can only in numbers not in rate ..confused author )

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Although people in France consume fatty foods at a rate comparable to the United States, their death rates from heart disease are far lower in France.

A. Same
B. people in France amd the United States consume fatty foods at about the same rate, the
C. fatty foods are consumed by people in France at a comparable rate to the United States's, their
D. the rate of fatty foods consumed in France and the United States is about the same, the
E. the rate of people consuming fatty foods is about the same in France and the United States, the

""of people consuming" is incorrect; you can't write "of + NOUN + VERBing" if the action of VERBing is the focus of the preposition" This is from Manhatten website.

So what the explanation is saying is that in the sturucture,
N1 + preposition + N2 + V, if the action of V is the focus of the preposition, N2 has to be possessive, and if N2 itself is the focus of the preposition, N2 doesn't have to be possessive?

Do I understand properly?

So...if I changed this into "the rate of people's consuming fatty food, could E be correct?

Also, in B, how is not using "in" before the U.S. ok? I guess that it might be ambigous because it could mean that people in france and the U.S (not people in the U.S.) consume~.

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16 Aug 2012, 06:07
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Although people in France consume fatty foods at a rate comparable to the United States, their death rates from heart disease are far lower in France.

(A) people in France consume fatty foods at a rate comparable to the United States, their
(B) people in France and the United States consume fatty foods at about the same rate, the
(C) fatty foods are consumed by people in France at a comparable rate to the United States’s, their
(D) the rate of fatty foods consumed in France and the United States is about the same, the
(E) the rate of people consuming fatty foods is about the same in France and the United States, the

Modifiers are king on the GMAT. An ability to recognize misplaced modifiers is key to overcoming the recent meaning-centered Sentence Correction questions on the "revised" GMAT, for modifiers and meaning go hand in hand. This means that the more comfortable you are with modifiers, the less active/conscious effort you have to make in understanding the intended meaning of a given SC question.

A) Wrong because a rate (at which people in France consume fatty foods) is being compared to a country (United States)
B) Correct. A comparable item (rate) is being compared between two groups. Correct comparison of like versus like.
C) Wrong Because rate is being compared to an ambiguous item, the United States' something (what exactly? United States' people? United States' rate?) Also, note that saying that "fatty foods are consumed by people in France at a comparable rate to .... is not as correct as saying "fatty foods are consumed by people in France at a rate comparable to ...). "Their" seems to refer to fatty foods or people....another error.
D) Wrong Modifier Error. You can't say "the rate of fatty foods...."; you can say "the rate of consumption...". Note that the "consumed in France...." in "the rate of fatty foods consumed in France and the United States" is only a modifier that is modifying "fatty foods", and this bring us back to why you can't say "the rate of fatty foods [(a noun (phrase) like (fatty) foods cannot be measured by a rate; however a noun like consumption can)] consumed in France and the United States (modifier of fatty foods)"
E) Wrong Another Modifier Error. "the rate of people consuming fatty foods is about the same in France and the United States". You can't say "The rate of people" since "consuming fatty foods is about the same in France and the United States" is merely modifying the noun "people" or "rate of people". The latter is illogical since a "rate (of people or of anything else)" cannot physically consume fatty foods

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20 Aug 2012, 23:21
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D) Wrong Modifier Error. You can't say "the rate of fatty foods...."; you can say "the rate of consumption...". Note that the "consumed in France...." in "the rate of fatty foods consumed in France and the United States" is only a modifier that is modifying "fatty foods", and this bring us back to why you can't say "the rate of fatty foods [(a noun (phrase) like (fatty) foods cannot be measured by a rate; however a noun like consumption can)] consumed in France and the United States (modifier of fatty foods)"

I felt like saying "Nein Nein Nein" (Courtesy: Der Untergang)

The rate of fatty foods consumed is not a wrong expression. I feel the main problem with this option was that it replaces "People" with a generalization. So, the rate of which people were consuming now CHANGED MEANING to the country as a whole consuming more fatty foods. For e.g. lets say the original meaning was meant for people, in option D you can include everything under the sun (people, animals, birds, politicians..etc.)

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21 Aug 2012, 01:24
mourinhogmat1 wrote:
OldFritz wrote:
D) Wrong Modifier Error. You can't say "the rate of fatty foods...."; you can say "the rate of consumption...". Note that the "consumed in France...." in "the rate of fatty foods consumed in France and the United States" is only a modifier that is modifying "fatty foods", and this bring us back to why you can't say "the rate of fatty foods [(a noun (phrase) like (fatty) foods cannot be measured by a rate; however a noun like consumption can)] consumed in France and the United States (modifier of fatty foods)"

I felt like saying "Nein Nein Nein" (Courtesy: Der Untergang)

The rate of fatty foods consumed is not a wrong expression. I feel the main problem with this option was that it replaces "People" with a generalization. So, the rate of which people were consuming now CHANGED MEANING to the country as a whole consuming more fatty foods. For e.g. lets say the original meaning was meant for people, in option D you can include everything under the sun (people, animals, birds, politicians..etc.)

I am afraid I have to insist that "the rate of fatty foods consumed...." is wrong, because you can't say "the rate of fatty foods"; the phrase, "consumed in France etc," which follows "fatty foods," merely modifies the latter.

As a further illustration, consider the following:

1) The rate of water consumed by Anatolians is high. (Wrong)
2) The volume of water consumed by Anatolians iis high. (Correct)

In the first example, you have something similar to the error in "the rate of fatty foods consumed," a mistake in meaning already discussed above.
The second example is clear/correct, because water can indeed be measured in volume, but not in rate.

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21 Aug 2012, 01:36
OK. If you look at it that way maybe you are right because you can't consume RATE, rather you can only consume the object that RATE is describing.

Another problem I just noticed with this answer choice is the tense.

the rate of fatty foods consumed in France and the United States is about the same.

The above is of the form X and Y is about the same. It should be X and Y are about the same.
In this case X and Y are not parallel.

The correct answer B eliminates the problem.

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21 Aug 2012, 01:44
mourinhogmat1 wrote:
Another problem I just noticed with this answer choice is the tense.

the rate of fatty foods consumed in France and the United States is about the same.

The above is of the form X and Y is about the same. It should be X and Y are about the same.
In this case X and Y are not parallel.

The correct answer B eliminates the problem.

I am afraid that I have to point out another erroneous item. First of all, I don't think you meant to say "tense" (which refers to time an action is performed). Tense is not the same as the singular/plural concept (aka Subject/Verb agreement)

In the above example, "The rate of fatty foods..." is a singular noun phrase, so it must match with the singular (auxiliary) verb "is," and NOT "are," as you erroneously pointed out in your faux parallelism analysis. Hope this helps. Feedback welcome, sir.

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29 Aug 2012, 08:35
A good question. This is one of the more frequently seen types on SC wherein the comparison setup in the statements is wrong. Once one understands that is is the people that are being compared and not the rates or countries then reaching the answer B is a lot more easier.
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