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Although the bite of brown recluse spiders are rarely fatal, they cause chronic flesh wounds, posing the greatest danger to the infant and elderly, who are particularly vulnerable to its poison.

(A) brown recluse spiders are rarely fatal, they cause chronic flesh wounds, posing the greatest danger to the infant and elderly, who are particularly vulnerable to its

(B) brown recluse spiders are rarely fatal, they cause chronic flesh wounds and pose the greatest danger to the infant and elderly, who are particularly vulnerable to their

(C) the brown recluse spider is rarely fatal, it causes chronic flesh wounds, posing the greatest danger to the infant and elderly, who are particularly vulnerable to their

(D) the brown recluse spider is rarely fatal, it causes chronic flesh wounds and poses the greatest danger to infants and the elderly, who are particularly vulnerable to its

(E) the brown recluse spider is rarely fatal, they cause chronic flesh wounds, posing the greatest danger to the infant and elderly, who are particularly vulnerable to its
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02 Nov 2009, 08:44
Bite is the noun. should be refer-ed by it and it's.

IMO D.
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02 Nov 2009, 08:53
we need to use it so left with

(C) the brown recluse spider is rarely fatal, it causes chronic flesh wounds, posing the greatest danger to the infant and elderly, who are particularly vulnerable to their

(D) the brown recluse spider is rarely fatal, it causes chronic flesh wounds and poses the greatest danger to infants and the elderly, who are particularly vulnerable to its

in C posing the greatest danger to the infant should is modifying flesh wounds. thats wrong.....................

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02 Nov 2009, 11:30
Something is wrong, I'm not convinced with any of the choices. Though, D sounds better than the rest.

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02 Nov 2009, 12:02
1. Bite is the subject, so subject-verb agreement, verb must be singular.
Eliminate A,B which uses "are"

2. Bite is singular, pronoun must be parallel.
Eliminate E, which uses "they"

3. Sentence isn't listing items, so there shouldn't be a comma. Also posing the greatest danger isn't modifying chronic flesh wounds.

So D.

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02 Nov 2009, 12:11
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we need to use it so left with

(C) the brown recluse spider is rarely fatal, it causes chronic flesh wounds, posing the greatest danger to the infant and elderly, who are particularly vulnerable to their

(D) the brown recluse spider is rarely fatal, it causes chronic flesh wounds and poses the greatest danger to infants and the elderly, who are particularly vulnerable to its

in C posing the greatest danger to the infant should is modifying flesh wounds. thats wrong.....................

Clear "D". In "C" using "their" to refer to spider is incorrect.

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03 Nov 2009, 09:18
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Although the bite of brown recluse spiders are rarely fatal, they cause chronic flesh wounds, posing the greatest danger to the infant and elderly, who are particularly vulnerable to its poison.
(A) brown recluse spiders are rarely fatal, they cause chronic flesh wounds, posing the greatest danger to the infant and elderly, who are particularly vulnerable to its
(B) brown recluse spiders are rarely fatal, they cause chronic flesh wounds and pose the greatest danger to the infant and elderly, who are particularly vulnerable to their
(C) the brown recluse spider is rarely fatal, it causes chronic flesh wounds, posing the greatest danger to the infant and elderly, who are particularly vulnerable to their
(D) the brown recluse spider is rarely fatal, it causes chronic flesh wounds and poses the greatest danger to infants and the elderly, who are particularly vulnerable to its
(E) the brown recluse spider is rarely fatal, they cause chronic flesh wounds, posing the greatest danger to the infant and elderly, who are particularly vulnerable to its

I m totally lost.I know its an pronoun error choosing between "they" and "it/its". how do you deduce which one is the right?

Bite is the cause of the wounds so correct one should be 'it causes' so A,B,E out.
out of C & D, D is correct because its correctly refer to 'the brown recluse spider'

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10 Nov 2010, 20:43
I understand A & B are incorrect because of sub-verb agreement.

C and E distort the meaning by saying that flesh wound, not the poison, poses the greatest threat.

Edit. never mind my earlier question.
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10 Nov 2010, 21:12
kirankp wrote:
Although the bite of brown recluse spiders are rarely fatal, they cause chronic flesh wounds, posing the greatest danger to the infant and elderly, who are particularly vulnerable to its poison.
(A) brown recluse spiders are rarely fatal, they cause chronic flesh wounds, posing the greatest danger to the infant and elderly, who are particularly vulnerable to its
(B) brown recluse spiders are rarely fatal, they cause chronic flesh wounds and pose the greatest danger to the infant and elderly, who are particularly vulnerable to their
(C) the brown recluse spider is rarely fatal, it causes chronic flesh wounds, posing the greatest danger to the infant and elderly, who are particularly vulnerable to their
(D) the brown recluse spider is rarely fatal, it causes chronic flesh wounds and poses the greatest danger to infants and the elderly, who are particularly vulnerable to its
(E) the brown recluse spider is rarely fatal, they cause chronic flesh wounds, posing the greatest danger to the infant and elderly, who are particularly vulnerable to its

'the bite of' is singular; therefore requires singular form. So A,B and E are out.
Causes...wounds and posing ...danger are consequences and should be parallel structure. Option C violates this.

IMO D
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11 Nov 2010, 09:42
Its D
"the brown recluse spider is rarely fatal, it (refers to bite, singular) causes chronic flesh wounds, posing the greatest danger to the infant and elderly, who (refers to children and elderly) are particularly vulnerable to their (refers to spider, singular)

C is wrong because "spider" and their at the end does not match.

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11 Nov 2010, 11:49
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'the bite of' is singular; therefore requires singular form. So A,B and E are out.
Causes...wounds and posing ...danger are consequences and should be parallel structure. Option C violates this.

IMO D

Just wanted to bring this out that there is nothing wrong with the logical meaning of choice C per se. posing the greatest danger to the infant and elderly is a Participial phrase and is modifying the entire clause it causes chronic flesh wounds. There is nothing wrong with this sense and is perhaps even the preferred sense, since the original sentence is also in this form.

The issue with C is presence of their. their could possibly refer to the infant, the elderly or flesh wounds, but in any of these cases, the meaning is non-sensical.
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11 Nov 2010, 13:10
Thanks @EducationAisle for clarifying it further.
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24 Feb 2012, 02:58
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Although the bite of brown recluse spiders are rarely fatal, they cause chronic flesh wounds, posing the greatest danger to the infant and elderly, who are particularly vulnerable to its poison.

(A) brown recluse spiders are rarely fatal, they cause chronic flesh wounds, posing the greatest danger to the infant and elderly, who are particularly vulnerable to its
(B) brown recluse spiders are rarely fatal, they cause chronic flesh wounds and pose the greatest danger to the infant and elderly, who are particularly vulnerable to their
(C) the brown recluse spider is rarely fatal, it causes chronic flesh wounds, posing the greatest danger to the infant and elderly, who are particularly vulnerable to their
(D) the brown recluse spider is rarely fatal, it causes chronic flesh wounds and poses the greatest danger to infants and the elderly, who are particularly vulnerable to its
(E) the brown recluse spider is rarely fatal, they cause chronic flesh wounds, posing the greatest danger to the infant and elderly, who are particularly vulnerable to its

I understand most of the reasons why OA is the answer, but I am still wondering why "its" at the end of the sentence in D is correct.
I think that "it" in D is referred to the bite of spiders, so "its" should also be referred to the bite of spiders.
but how does "the bite" have poison?

I picked C as an answer because of that reason above.
Poison should be the spiders', and spiders are plural in the Q, so I thought the correct form was "their."

What's wrong with my thought?

Also, some people say that "posing" is not parallel with cause, so C is incorrect.
But I thought that "posing" modifies the whole preceding sentence, so it makes sense.
Am I wrong?

'Its' is referring to the spide.

If you use they it would cause ambiguity between the infants, elderly & the spider. Further it has been earlier used for the spider.

I hope this helps
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25 Feb 2012, 10:04
eybrj2 wrote:

I picked C as an answer because of that reason above.
Poison should be the spiders', and spiders are plural in the Q, so I thought the correct form was "their."

What's wrong with my thought?

Also, some people say that "posing" is not parallel with cause, so C is incorrect.
But I thought that "posing" modifies the whole preceding sentence, so it makes sense.
Am I wrong?

"their" is plural, while "its" is singular.
In C , the "their" would need "spiderS" (plural) as antecedent. Instead spider in C is singular. Thus, "their" does not agree in number with the antecedent.

D fixes this error by changing "their" (PL) to "its" (Sg).

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25 Feb 2012, 22:48
I still feel C is the answer.Its cannot refer to spiders .It is surely wrong .If D is correct then it should be brown spider and not spiders.!! Just because there is ambiguity it must not lead to any subject verb agreement.
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I still feel C is the answer.Its cannot refer to spiders .It is surely wrong .If D is correct then it should be brown spider and not spiders.!! Just because there is ambiguity it must not lead to any subject verb agreement.

D states
".. the brown recluse spider ..." (Singular)

So ITS refers to spider. There is no other antecedent for its. IMO there is no ambiguity in D.
Where exactly do you see a problem with D?

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Although the bite of brown recluse spiders are rarely fatal, they cause chronic flesh wounds, posing the greatest danger to the infant and elderly, who are particularly vulnerable to its poison.

(A) brown recluse spiders are rarely fatal, they cause chronic flesh wounds, posing the greatest danger to the infant and elderly, who are particularly vulnerable to its
(B) brown recluse spiders are rarely fatal, they cause chronic flesh wounds and pose the greatest danger to the infant and elderly, who are particularly vulnerable to their
(C) the brown recluse spider is rarely fatal, it causes chronic flesh wounds, posing the greatest danger to the infant and elderly, who are particularly vulnerable to their
(D) the brown recluse spider is rarely fatal, it causes chronic flesh wounds and poses the greatest danger to infants and the elderly, who are particularly vulnerable to its
(E) the brown recluse spider is rarely fatal, they cause chronic flesh wounds, posing the greatest danger to the infant and elderly, who are particularly vulnerable to its

I understand most of the reasons why OA is the answer, but I am still wondering why "its" at the end of the sentence in D is correct.
I think that "it" in D is referred to the bite of spiders, so "its" should also be referred to the bite of spiders.
but how does "the bite" have poison?

I picked C as an answer because of that reason above.
Poison should be the spiders', and spiders are plural in the Q, so I thought the correct form was "their."

What's wrong with my thought?

Also, some people say that "posing" is not parallel with cause, so C is incorrect.
But I thought that "posing" modifies the whole preceding sentence, so it makes sense.
Am I wrong?

Why B is wrong
logically we know poison ill be of spiders only not of infant and elderly

Pls Post question --if come across, where their may be referring to more than one entity but logically refer to only one
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30 Mar 2012, 02:57
Straight D sv-agreement problem in other options.
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Although the bite of brown recluse spiders are rarely fatal, they cause chronic flesh wounds, posing the greatest danger to the infant and elderly, who are particularly vulnerable to its poison.
(A) brown recluse spiders are rarely fatal, they cause chronic flesh wounds, posing the greatest danger to the infant and elderly, who are particularly vulnerable to its
(B) brown recluse spiders are rarely fatal, they cause chronic flesh wounds and pose the greatest danger to the infant and elderly, who are particularly vulnerable to their
(C) the brown recluse spider is rarely fatal, it causes chronic flesh wounds, posing the greatest danger to the infant and elderly, who are particularly vulnerable to their
(D) the brown recluse spider is rarely fatal, it causes chronic flesh wounds and poses the greatest danger to infants and the elderly, who are particularly vulnerable to its
(E) the brown recluse spider is rarely fatal, they cause chronic flesh wounds, posing the greatest danger to the infant and elderly, who are particularly vulnerable to its

Can some one help me to clraify my doubt
Can the pronoun's refer to the nouns which are in prepositional phrases
for eg:
bite of brown recluse spiders .In this if i want to refer to spiders can i use they eventhough they reside in prepositional phrase(bite of brown recluse spiders).
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Although the bite of brown recluse spiders are rarely fatal, they cause chronic flesh wounds, posing the greatest danger to the infant and elderly, who are particularly vulnerable to its poison.
(A) brown recluse spiders are rarely fatal, they cause chronic flesh wounds, posing the greatest danger to the infant and elderly, who are particularly vulnerable to its
(B) brown recluse spiders are rarely fatal, they cause chronic flesh wounds and pose the greatest danger to the infant and elderly, who are particularly vulnerable to their
(C) the brown recluse spider is rarely fatal, it causes chronic flesh wounds, posing the greatest danger to the infant and elderly, who are particularly vulnerable to their
(D) the brown recluse spider is rarely fatal, it causes chronic flesh wounds and poses the greatest danger to infants and the elderly, who are particularly vulnerable to its
(E) the brown recluse spider is rarely fatal, they cause chronic flesh wounds, posing the greatest danger to the infant and elderly, who are particularly vulnerable to its

Can some one help me to clraify my doubt
Can the pronoun's refer to the nouns which are in prepositional phrases
for eg:
bite of brown recluse spiders .In this if i want to refer to spiders can i use they eventhough they reside in prepositional phrase(bite of brown recluse spiders).

Prepositional phrases add some information to the sentence. The information is usually the place or the time or anything else. Having said that the prepositional phrases are fluff in a sentence. Meaning they are modifiers, adding more information to the main core sentence. They never have the main subject of the sentence. So don't look for subject of the sentence in the prepositional phrase. In this sc problem identify the main subject. In this case it is 'The bite'. If you can spot this then rest of this problem is identifying SV errors.

they cause chronic flesh wounds - This modifier has incorrect pronoun. The bite is singular hence it is the correct antecedent. That leaves us with C and D. Now C uses pronoun 'their', which is again incorrect as the subject is 'the bite'. hence 'its' is the correct usage. hence D is the answer.

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