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18 May 2014, 06:54
BC have modifier issues
B: "in the summer" cannot be modified by "not announced"
C: "discovery" can't be "observed"
EA: "pulsars" can't be "announced"

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22 Sep 2014, 09:10
A & C - out due to "had"
B - Out because of had and no subject in although clause.
D - correct answer - Discovery was not announced
E- it refers to sighted pulser and while presents two action at same time, we need contrast here
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19 Dec 2014, 06:44
what is wrong with E please explain ??

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19 Dec 2014, 07:50
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what is wrong with E please explain ??

E says: The first sighted pulsar, or rapidly spinning collapsed star, was not announced until February, 1968, while it was observed in the summer of 1967 by graduate student Jocelyn Bell.

So, it basically says: The first sighted pulsar was not announced until February, 1968

It is nonsensical to say that pulsar was not announced; pulsar cannot be announced/unannounced.

Actually the observation/discovery (about the sighting of pulsar) was not announced until February, 1968. This is what E says.
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In the option c, is it not correct to use ' had not been announced before/until 1968' ? because to emphasize that ' announcement' has not been made before 1968. 'no announcement' is before 1968 so i thought it should be past perfect tense. i understand first sighting in 1967 and then announcement in 1968 . so, use of past perfect for announcement is wrong. but, without the first clause is it right to use past perfect for the second clause?

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In the option c, is it not correct to use ' had not been announced before/until 1968' ? because to emphasize that ' announcement' has not been made before 1968. 'no announcement' is before 1968 so i thought it should be past perfect tense. i understand first sighting in 1967 and then announcement in 1968 . so, use of past perfect for announcement is wrong. but, without the first clause is it right to use past perfect for the second clause?

Use of past perfect is redundant when using "before".
Correct: I left home before my father arrived.
Wrong: I had left home before my father arrived.

The following is an excerpt from Manhattan SC guide:

"Note that we do not always use the Past Perfect for earlier actions. In general, you should use Past Perfect only to clarify or emphasize a sequence of past events. The earlier event should somehow have a bearing on the context of the later event. Moreover, if the sequence is already obvious, we often do not need Past Perfect.

Laura LOCKED the deadbolt before she LEFT for work."

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11 Nov 2016, 07:59
All, this question is tricky. it comes down to small nuisances at the end. I follow that the logic for some of the choices is obviously wrong, but I just could not explain what made them wrong. Spent time reading your posts and the answer key in my book to close the gaps.

Split1) Verb. Past Perfect in A and C are not needed. The sequence is already obvious. We don’t need a past perfect. The word "before" is telling us the sequence of events. A and C are out.

Split2) Modifier. In B "in the summer" cannot modify "not announced" . Also, B is all over the place, "although not announced, in the summer..." is not logical sequence.

Split3) Conjunction not needed. The word "while" in E is a subordinate conjunction that indicates two different events happening. The truth is that the original sentence is telling us about a sequence of events and does not need a subordinate conjunction word "while". Not logical.

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12 Nov 2016, 10:34
Split1) Verb. The beginning is telling us that something happened in the past. So we must strive to keep things in the simple past as much as possible. Also, I chose the word "Although" as a split word. Looking at A, B and C, I found them to be incorrect = "although something, something else" meaning I want to read at the end a different outcome that the first dependent clause presents. A has past perfect verb that is not needed. How can an event that happened later use language that refers to something more back in the past?. B has a modifier error because "Although not announced until 1967," you need to say what is the subject of your sentence. what was announced in 1967? Jocelyn Bell? No, The discovery of the first pulsar. C changes the meaning. Also, in C, How can an event that happened later use language that refers to something more back in the past? All three don't fit with the Although word or have verb or meaning issues. A, B and C are out.

Split2) "while" in E is confusing. While means are other simultaneous events happening. that's strange because "although" told me that a different outcome will happen at the end of the sentence. While + Although, a dangerous combination in the same sentence. E is out.

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Although the first pulsar, or rapidly spinning collapsed star, to be sighted was in the summer of 1967 by graduate student Jocelyn Bell, it had not been announced until February, 1968.

(A) Although the first pulsar, or rapidly spinning collapsed star, to be sighted was in the summer of 1967 by graduate student Jocelyn Bell, it had not been announced until February, 1968. - the first pulsar was in the summer does not make sense ; It does not have a proper logical antecdent ; verb tense issue
(B) Although not announced until February, 1968, in the summer of 1967 graduate student Jocelyn Bell observed the first pulsar, or rapidly spinning collapsed star, to be sighted. - Modifier although not announced J Bell
(C) Although observed by graduate student Jocelyn Bell in the summer of 1967, the discovery of the first sighted pulsar, or rapidly spinning collapsed star, had not been announced before February, 1968. - Modifier Although observed illogically modifies the discovery ; verb tense issue
(D) The first pulsar, or rapidly spinning collapsed star, to be sighted was observed in the summer of 1967 by graduate student Jocelyn Bell, but the discovery was not announced until February, 1968. - Correct
(E) The first sighted pulsar, or rapidly spinning collapsed star, was not announced until February, 1968, while it was observed in the summer of 1967 by graduate student Jocelyn Bell.
- illogical meaning - the pulsar itself was not announced
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14 Jan 2017, 03:01
'To be sighted' and 'was observed' are they not redundant in option D ? or do they take different stance here ? Why not simply say 'was observed'

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'To be sighted' and 'was observed' are they not redundant in option D ? or do they take different stance here ? Why not simply say 'was observed'

They can't be redundant. The sentence focuses on the time of the observation of the first special star that was sighted. "To be sighted" means the first one was sighted from the Earth. "was observed" is simply the main verb in that sentence.

Also, if you combine them: "The first pulsar was observed in the summer of 1967", this sentence distorts the meaning. First, "the first pulsar" means first of what? Second, this sentence indicates that people observed that star in 1967, this observation is not necessarily the first observation of that star.
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14 Jan 2017, 11:23
Thank you nguyendinhtuong for the clarification

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Although the first pulsar, or rapidly spinning collapsed star, to be sighted was in the summer of 1969 by graduate student Jocelyn Bell, it had not been announced until February, 1968.

a) Although the first pulsar, or rapidly spinning collapsed star, to be sighted was in the summer of 1969 by graduate student Jocelyn Bell, it had not been announced until February, 1968.
b) Although not announced until February, 1968, in the summer of 1967 graduate student Jocelyn Bell observed the first pulsar, or rapidly spinning collapsed star, to be sighted.
c) Although observed by graduate student Jocelyn Bell in the summer of 1967, the discovery of the first sighted pulsar, or rapidly spinning collapsed star, had not been announced before February, 1968.
d) The first pulsar, or rapidly spinning collapsed star, to be sighted was observed in the summer of 1967 by graduate student Jocelyn Bell, but the discovery was not announced until February, 1968.
e) The first sighted pulsar, or rapidly spinning collapsed star, was not announced until February, 1968, while it was observed in the summer of 1967 by graduate student Jocelyn Bell.

Hi, I added this Q as other post don't include OA

the wording is more appropriate in D.

in A - IT doesn't have a real antecedent. Since it creates ambiguities, A can be eliminated.
B - what was not announced until February 1968? clearly, the choice of words is poor in this sentence, which doesn't make any sense at all.
C - The discovery was not observed, the star was observed - from the beginning of the sentence, we can eliminate this choice easily.
D - looks good. meaning is clear
E - the discovery was not announced until Feb 1968. The star was there and still is.

D so far is the best option.

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Mountain14 wrote:
Opted D and E,

but rejected D because of -" to be sighted was observed"

Can any one pls explain

"To be sighted was observed" is indeed a tricky construction. Remember infinitives can be adverbs, nouns, and adjectives. In this case, the infinitive is used as an adjective to "the first pulsar." The infinitive, like other verbals, carry an idea of action, and the idea of action is that "someone sighted the first pulsar." In passive tense, that is "the first pulsar was sighted by someone"; without the agent, it is "the first pulsar was sighted"; in infinitive-modifier form, we have "the first pulsar to be sighted." So, the blurb "the first pulsar to be sighted was observed..." is a bit less confusing once it's broken down.

I hope this helps.

Is it correct to say the below sentence?

the first student to be beaten left the school.

If yes, does it have the same meaning as the below sentence has?

The student who was beaten first left the school

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Both sentences are correct in their own right; however, both differ subtly in their respective meanings --to be beaten means that the boy is yet to be beaten; If you want to refer to someone who has already been beaten, then you have to say either - the boy to have been beaten first or the beaten boy-.
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15 Feb 2017, 10:36
Is the date in the question (1969) deliberately wrong??
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1969 must be a typo and may be ignored. Choices B to E have rectified the mistake.
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16 Feb 2017, 12:03
A - Although the first pulsar, or rapidly spinning collapsed star, to be sighted was in the summer of 1969 by graduate student Jocelyn Bell, it had not been announced until February, 1968. - The star was what ? The sentence does clearly state that
B - Although not announced until February, 1968, in the summer of 1967 graduate student Jocelyn Bell observed the first pulsar, or rapidly spinning collapsed star, to be sighted. - Here "in the summer" is modified by "Although not announced..." but it should that the star was sighted what was not announced
C- Although observed by graduate student Jocelyn Bell in the summer of 1967, the discovery of the first sighted pulsar, or rapidly spinning collapsed star, had not been announced before February, 1968. - Jocelyn Bell did not observed the discovery of the star, he observed the star itself, hence wrong modifier
D - Correct
E- The first sighted pulsar, or rapidly spinning collapsed star, was not announced until February, 1968, while it was observed in the summer of 1967 by graduate student Jocelyn Bell. - Also wrong modifier, one cannot announce a star. It should be the discovery what was not announced

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