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Almost convinced :) Thanks Shardhha..!

But...still a little doubt left-don't you think that here we are comparing the functions (of teeth and that of sharp and jagged edges of the horny jaws) ?

P.S: Is it because of the fact that as the presence of teeth is virtual in this case so we're not doing the comparison of functions actually...?

Really appreciate your reply as always!


Hi Debayan,

Let's take a very basic example here:

I work as a GMAT expert with e-gmat.

Here, I am not compared to a GMAT expert. I am a GMAT expert. I function in the capacity of a GMAT expert.

In the very same way, the official sentence does not compare the "sharp abd jagged edges" with "teeth". It says that these "sharp and jagged edges" functions as "teeth". These edges themselves are the teeth in turtle. There is no question of any comparison here.

Hope this helps. :)
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egmat wrote:
debayan222 wrote:
Almost convinced :) Thanks Shardhha..!

But...still a little doubt left-don't you think that here we are comparing the functions (of teeth and that of sharp and jagged edges of the horny jaws) ?

P.S: Is it because of the fact that as the presence of teeth is virtual in this case so we're not doing the comparison of functions actually...?

Really appreciate your reply as always!


Hi Debayan,

Let's take a very basic example here:

I work as a GMAT expert with e-gmat.

Here, I am not compared to a GMAT expert. I am a GMAT expert. I function in the capacity of a GMAT expert.

In the very same way, the official sentence does not compare the "sharp abd jagged edges" with "teeth". It says that these "sharp and jagged edges" functions as "teeth". These edges themselves are the teeth in turtle. There is no question of any comparison here.

Hope this helps. :)
Thanks.
Shraddha



Shraddha-Thanks a lot for the detail clarification and patience of course :) Kudos...

It's clear now however,can we think like that "Is it because of the fact that as the presence of teeth is virtual in this case so we're not doing the comparison of functions actually...?

Just curious to know whether I'm thinking in a proper way you know !
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debayan222 wrote:
egmat wrote:
debayan222 wrote:
Almost convinced :) Thanks Shardhha..!

But...still a little doubt left-don't you think that here we are comparing the functions (of teeth and that of sharp and jagged edges of the horny jaws) ?

P.S: Is it because of the fact that as the presence of teeth is virtual in this case so we're not doing the comparison of functions actually...?

Really appreciate your reply as always!


Hi Debayan,

Let's take a very basic example here:

I work as a GMAT expert with e-gmat.

Here, I am not compared to a GMAT expert. I am a GMAT expert. I function in the capacity of a GMAT expert.

In the very same way, the official sentence does not compare the "sharp abd jagged edges" with "teeth". It says that these "sharp and jagged edges" functions as "teeth". These edges themselves are the teeth in turtle. There is no question of any comparison here.

Hope this helps. :)
Thanks.
Shraddha



Shraddha-Thanks a lot for the detail clarification and patience of course :) Kudos...

It's clear now however,can we think like that "Is it because of the fact that as the presence of teeth is virtual in this case so we're not doing the comparison of functions actually...?

Just curious to know whether I'm thinking in a proper way you know !



I was going to explain why E is correct. But after going through Shraddha's response, i think its pretty understood!
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Although the turtle has been toothless for more than 150 million years, in some contemporary turtle species the moderately sharp and jagged edges of their horny jaws function for teeth.
a) their horny jaws function for teeth
b) its horny jaws function for teeth
c) its horny jaws function as do teeth
d) the horny jaws function as teeth do
e) the horny jaws function as teeth


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E is the correct amswer
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I understand why its E with regards to the idiom 'function as' - makes sense
What about the 'their' vs 'its' split - tortoises usually have the pronoun 'its' - which is correct in B. Would like some clarity on the doubts below:
Although the turtle has been toothless for more than 150 million years, in some contemporary turtle species the moderately sharp and jagged edges of their horny jaws function for teeth.

a) their horny jaws function for teeth
b) its horny jaws function for teeth - correct in terms of pronoun
e) the horny jaws function as teeth - doesnt the 'the' word seem out of place/ without antecedent? The sentence now says "in some contemporary turtle species the moderately sharp and jagged edges of the horny jaws function as teeth (the horny jaws doesn't seem as clear).

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I understand why its E with regards to the idiom 'function as' - makes sense
What about the 'their' vs 'its' split - tortoises usually have the pronoun 'its' - which is correct in B. Would like some clarity on the doubts below:
Although the turtle has been toothless for more than 150 million years, in some contemporary turtle species the moderately sharp and jagged edges of their horny jaws function for teeth.

a) their horny jaws function for teeth
b) its horny jaws function for teeth - correct in terms of pronoun
e) the horny jaws function as teeth - doesnt the 'the' word seem out of place/ without antecedent? The sentence now says "in some contemporary turtle species the moderately sharp and jagged edges of the horny jaws function as teeth (the horny jaws doesn't seem as clear).


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The subject of the sentence is the "turtle" and the turtle species are introduced just as an example. Hence, the pronoun should be singular i.e. 'its' or 'the' and not 'their' which is plural.

The correct idiom is 'X functions as Y.' Eliminate A and B.

In C and D, the inclusion of 'do' changes the meaning:

The jaws function as teeth. (This means that the jaws substitute for teeth. In other words, the jaws and teeth play the same role: both are used to eat. This is the intended meaning of the sentence.)
The jaws function as teeth do. (This means that the jaws and teeth operate the same way. This is not the intended meaning of the sentence. The jaws and teeth work differently.)

Eliminate C and D. The correct answer is E.
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MamtaKrishnia wrote:
Although the turtle has been toothless for more than 150 million years, in some contemporary turtle species the moderately sharp and jagged edges of their horny jaws function for teeth.
a) their horny jaws function for teeth
b) its horny jaws function for teeth
c) its horny jaws function as do teeth
d) the horny jaws function as teeth do
e) the horny jaws function as teeth


I think this question is a prime example of how POE (process of elimination) can be a very powerful skill on the GMAT. The issue with the usage of "its" and "their" is the fact there is ambiguity in the sentence as to what the logical antecedent is. The pronoun in the second clause whether "its" or "their" can refer to the turtle (singular) or turtle species (plural). The best thing to do is to eliminate the pronoun altogether. But if that isn't entirely obvious- another way of approaching this problem is looking at the idioms used in the answer choices. The correct idiom is "X functions as Y" so we can eliminate A B C D.

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