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# Among the objects found in the excavated temple were small

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20 Jun 2017, 10:38
dwivedys wrote:
A is right because of parallel structure (healing and thanking)
E is not because it does not preserve parallelism.

It is either asking......or thanking....... parallelism.....
not healing...... or thanking......
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Among the objects found in the excavated temple were small terra-cotta effigies left by supplicants who
were either asking the goddess Bona Dea’s aid in healing physical and mental ills or thanking her for such
help.
A. in healing physical and mental ills or thanking her for such help
Correct as it is ..
It uses correct form of idiom “either …or” unlike some of the other options.
Also, the usage of “aid in healing” is perfectly fine.

B. in healing physical and mental ills and to thank her for helping
“either ….or” idiom is tweaked “either …and” !!!

C. in healing physical and mental ills, and thanking her for helping
Same Error as option B

D. to heal physical and mental ills or to thank her for such help
“Either asking ….or thanking” is required…”to thank” is Not parallel with “asking”

E. to heal physical and mental ills or thanking her for such help
Note that “aid” here is used a noun (Bona Dea’s Aid) and hence no preposition should follow “aid”
So usage of “to heal” after aid is ungrammatical.
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14 Aug 2017, 23:56
(B) in healing physical and mental ills and to thank her for helping issue with parallelism
(C) in healing physical and mental ills, and thanking her for helping same issue
(D) to heal physical and mental ills or to thank her for such help ---- not correct for reasons above mentioned
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16 Aug 2017, 08:53
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Dear bpiyush,

I'm happy to respond. :-)

My friend, I am going to chide you for asking a not-very-helpful question. This thread is five pages long: it is full of all kinds of discussions. What exactly is the dispute or uncertainty that requires attention? Your question is not helpful to us experts and it also was not helpful to you. Think about it. How much time did it take to write and post that question? How much effort did it take? How much thoughtful reflection went into crafting that question? The process of education is very much a reflection of what you bring: low effort brings meager rewards and high effort brings substantial rewards. If you aspire to an excellent performance, I strongly recommend the habits of excellence. One of these concerns the often underrated value of crafting high quality questions. See:
You see, the reflection and thoughtful effort it takes to craft an excellent question is actually an essential and often neglected part of the learning process. It's important to bring as much diligence and priority to this task as to the other learning tasks. How you do anything is how you do everything.

Here's my challenge to you. Come back to this thread and study it carefully. Think about the exact issue that you believe need clarification. Explain what you understand from all the parties who discussed that topic, cite all the relevant authors & entries, explain exactly what you understand and exactly the part that is still unclear to you. If you ask that excellent question, I will be more than happy to respond.

Does all this make sense?
Mike :-)
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16 Aug 2017, 23:16
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bpiyush wrote:

Dear bpiyush,

I'm happy to respond. :-)

My friend, I am going to chide you for asking a not-very-helpful question. This thread is five pages long: it is full of all kinds of discussions. What exactly is the dispute or uncertainty that requires attention? Your question is not helpful to us experts and it also was not helpful to you. Think about it. How much time did it take to write and post that question? How much effort did it take? How much thoughtful reflection went into crafting that question? The process of education is very much a reflection of what you bring: low effort brings meager rewards and high effort brings substantial rewards. If you aspire to an excellent performance, I strongly recommend the habits of excellence. One of these concerns the often underrated value of crafting high quality questions. See:
You see, the reflection and thoughtful effort it takes to craft an excellent question is actually an essential and often neglected part of the learning process. It's important to bring as much diligence and priority to this task as to the other learning tasks. How you do anything is how you do everything.

Here's my challenge to you. Come back to this thread and study it carefully. Think about the exact issue that you believe need clarification. Explain what you understand from all the parties who discussed that topic, cite all the relevant authors & entries, explain exactly what you understand and exactly the part that is still unclear to you. If you ask that excellent question, I will be more than happy to respond.

Does all this make sense?
Mike :-)

Dear mikemcgarry,
Thanks for your reply. I highly appreciate this forum and the efforts that have been put forward by all the members. I am sorry for my question that did not reflect the doubt I actually had. So my doubt is between the options A and E which would be better. I am facing difficulty in that. I do understand the question brings in the concept of correlative conjunctions and parallelism. I do understand the usage of asking after either would require the usage of thanking after or. But whether it should be in healing or to heal there lies my doubt.
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17 Aug 2017, 09:30
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Dear mikemcgarry,
Thanks for your reply. I highly appreciate this forum and the efforts that have been put forward by all the members. I am sorry for my question that did not reflect the doubt I actually had. So my doubt is between the options A and E which would be better. I am facing difficulty in that. I do understand the question brings in the concept of correlative conjunctions and parallelism. I do understand the usage of asking after either would require the usage of thanking after or. But whether it should be in healing or to heal there lies my doubt.
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Dear bpiyush,

I'm happy to respond. :-) Thank you for asking a much better question.

What you are asking is an idiom question. I will recommend these free resource:
GMAT Idiom Flashcards
GMAT Idiom eBook

The correct idiom is: to ask for aid in doing X.

The infinitive sound unnatural in this context. It's close to an infinitive of purpose, but it doesn't work here.

It's hard to learn all the nuances of idioms. I strongly recommend developing a habit of reading. See:
How to Improve Your GMAT Verbal Score

Does all this make sense?
Mike :-)
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17 Aug 2017, 19:36
mikemcgarry wrote:
bpiyush wrote:
Dear mikemcgarry,
Thanks for your reply. I highly appreciate this forum and the efforts that have been put forward by all the members. I am sorry for my question that did not reflect the doubt I actually had. So my doubt is between the options A and E which would be better. I am facing difficulty in that. I do understand the question brings in the concept of correlative conjunctions and parallelism. I do understand the usage of asking after either would require the usage of thanking after or. But whether it should be in healing or to heal there lies my doubt.
Regards

Dear bpiyush,

I'm happy to respond. :-) Thank you for asking a much better question.

What you are asking is an idiom question. I will recommend these free resource:
GMAT Idiom Flashcards
GMAT Idiom eBook

The correct idiom is: to ask for aid in doing X.

The infinitive sound unnatural in this context. It's close to an infinitive of purpose, but it doesn't work here.

It's hard to learn all the nuances of idioms. I strongly recommend developing a habit of reading. See:
How to Improve Your GMAT Verbal Score

Does all this make sense?
Mike :-)

Dear @mikemcgarry,
Thanks a lot.
Regards
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17 Aug 2017, 22:27
I also think E is right.
Can someone confirm what answer option suits to this Question???

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18 Aug 2017, 01:39
Aid in is the correct idiom .
A maintains parallelism .
B there is lack of parallelism present participle is not parallel to infinitive of purpose .
C helping is wrong it should be help .
D wrong idiom and the act of supplicants asking was recorded in these effigies so we have to use present participle here .
E wrong idiom does not maintain parallelism.

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10 Nov 2017, 18:39
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Among the objects found in the excavated temple were small terra-cotta effigies left by supplicants who were either asking the goddess Bona Dea's aid in healing physical and mental ills or thanking her for such help.

(A) in healing physical and mental ills or thanking her for such help
(B) in healing physical and mental ills and to thank her for helping
(C) in healing physical and mental ills, and thanking her for helping
(D) to heal physical and mental ills or to thank her for such help
(E) to heal physical and mental ills or thanking her for such help

The difference between "in healing" or "to heal":

A subject makes an action --> Bona heals so it could be "...asking the goddess Bona Dea to heal"

In this case, you have Bona Dea's aid (it is not a subject, it cannot be the subject of a verb) so we have to follow the phrase with "in healing"

Among A,B and C, it is clear that people ask Bonas'aid "in... OR ... ": B is not parallel and C has a comma before "and" that in this case does not fit

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10 Nov 2017, 23:34
pusht wrote:
Among the objects found in the excavated temple were small terra-cotta effigies left by supplicants who were either asking the goddess Bona Dea's aid in healing physical and mental ills or thanking her for such help.

(A) in healing physical and mental ills or thanking her for such help
(B) in healing physical and mental ills and to thank her for helping
(C) in healing physical and mental ills, and thanking her for helping
(D) to heal physical and mental ills or to thank her for such help
(E) to heal physical and mental ills or thanking her for such help

this point of test here is purely grammatical , and, so , is not typical of the thing on which gmat test.

in dictionary, we have
aid sombody in doing something
so, we can infer that the noun "aid" is similar." provide an aid in learning gmat" is good.

another reason to eliminate choice e is that

in the pattern " do somebody to do 2 something"
normally somebody perform the do 2. exmple.
I ask you to learn english. you are the person who learn english.

there is no pattern in which something is after "do". in short, pattern in e dose exist.

this is a little hard because we do not see "aid (noun) in doing " in the dictionary. but it is still purely grammatical/idiomatic. this means, remember the idiom.
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14 Dec 2017, 09:47
A lot more senior members have shared their views on this post. Correct me if I am wrong. In my opinion, E is wrong because it is not [ Aid to ] but [ aid in ] the idiomatic usage for me was not on point.
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