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# Animals which were originally feral, such as dogs, horses,

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Animals which were originally feral, such as dogs, horses, and sheep, have been domesticated for the purpose of producing foods and goods, providing faster transportation, and serving as pets for amusement as early as the Stone Age.

(1) Animals which were originally feral, such as dogs, horses, and sheep, have been domesticated
(2) Animals which used to be feral , such as dogs, horses, and sheep, have been domesticated
(3) Dogs, horses, and sheep are examples of animals which were originally feral and have since been domesticated
(4) Dogs, horses, and sheep are examples of animals which were originally feral and had been domesticated
(5) Dogs, horses, and sheep are examples of animals which were originally feral and were domesticated
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The critical thing here is whether we have to use some kind of a perfect tense or do we use a simple past to describe domestication. If the domestication is a practice that is still being continued, then we can use present perfect, since there is now the required bridge between the past and the present. But can it be considered logical, and do we still domesticate the said animals? No; therefore I feel tht the use of simple past only will be the correct diction.

It might be noted that the author does not cite a tiger or lion or leopard. In these cases, the process do domestication may be continued as and when required and so the process is still not complete. May be in these cases the present perfect will be appropriate

Hence, I would fault chocies1, 2, 3, and 4 and reckon 5 as the correct answer. This requires a good amount of CR skills too, I suppose. OA and OE should help us with some insight.
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05 May 2011, 15:23
Wow, this one is very difficult.!
IMO, it is A.

These are my reasons:

gmatpapa wrote:
Animals which were originally feral, such as dogs, horses, and sheep, have been domesticated for the purpose of producing foods and goods, providing faster transportation, and serving as pets for amusement as early as the Stone Age.

(1) Animals which were originally feral, such as dogs, horses, and sheep, have been domesticated
(2) Animals which used to be feral , such as dogs, horses, and sheep, have been domesticated - "Used to be" slightly changes the meaning. This change elimnates the idea that these animals were feral at the begining.
(3) Dogs, horses, and sheep are examples of animals which were originally feral and have since been domesticated - We don't know whether "have since been..." is parallel with "are" or "were". It is not clear. If it is parallel with "are", the meaning changes.
(4) Dogs, horses, and sheep are examples of animals which were originally feral and had been domesticated - Past perfect is not necessary.
(5) Dogs, horses, and sheep are examples of animals which were originally feral and were domesticated - "Were" is wrong. This implies that these animals are not domesticated in the present.

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09 May 2011, 12:08
i think we need an OA , i agree with daagh on this.
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OA is E.

OE: This answer choice correctly uses the Past Simple (were domesticated) to describe an action that occurred at a specific point in the past (as early as the Stone Age).
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11 Jun 2011, 07:56
I'd go choosing #4. It was done so it should be in past tense.
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12 Jun 2011, 16:28
Don't agree with E...I go for A.

"were domesticated"????
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I'd first look at the splits among the answer choices. (A) and (B) clearly begin differently from (C), (D), and (E), so I'd make my first decision based around that difference. In this case, I'd rule out (A) and (B) because the subject of the sentence in those options is all animals which were originally feral, and dogs, horses, and sheep are simply being given as sort of "optional" examples, so these two options wrongly make a statement about all originally-feral animals.

So we're down to (C), (D), and (E), and at this point I'd note the splits we see at the end of those options. We have to choose among "have since been domesticated," "had been domesticated," and "were domesticated." I'd rule out (D) right away, because I'd only use that past perfect ("had been domesticated") if I needed to situate the domesticating prior in time to the being feral -- and doing so would be illogical, since you're not feral anymore once you're domesticated. As between (C) and (E), they both seem good... UNTIL I fit them back into the unchangeable parts of the sentence. But when I do that, I see the "as early as the Stone Age" at the end of the sentence. It doesn't make sense to say "have since been domesticated as early as the Stone Age," because "have...been domesticated" is a present perfect verb form, and you'd only use the present perfect to relate something to the present (as in "I am not (now) hungry, because I have eaten"). You couldn't use present perfect to situate the beginning of a process in the Stone Age. So we need to stick with the regular past ("were domesticated"). It works well to say "were domesticated as early as the Stone Age.

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Ahhh!! I don't want to think anymore... such a headache!
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Animals which were originally feral, such as dogs, horses, and sheep, have been domesticated for the purpose of producing foods and goods, providing faster transportation, and serving as pets for amusement as early as the Stone Age.

(1) Animals which were originally feral, such as dogs, horses, and sheep, have been domesticated
(2) Animals which used to be feral , such as dogs, horses, and sheep, have been domesticated
(3) Dogs, horses, and sheep are examples of animals which were originally feral and have since been domesticated
(4) Dogs, horses, and sheep are examples of animals which were originally feral and had been domesticated
(5) Dogs, horses, and sheep are examples of animals which were originally feral and were domesticated

For me its a choice between C and E.
Have since been vs were
I think as the sentence ends with ' as early as' , usage of since is wrong here.
E it is .
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02 Jul 2011, 06:29
thanks for explaining it so well , Bharatg. agree with E
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02 Jul 2011, 19:40
I too don't agree with E. E doesn't make a complete sentence
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05 Jul 2011, 19:32
It was down to A and E for me. I chose E.

E tells us that these animals were domesticated some point in the past, which makes sense.

That was a toughie.
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I hope to have an insight here, why does "used to be" change the meaning of the sentence? Thanks.
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I hope to have an insight here, why does "used to be" change the meaning of the sentence? Thanks.

I think used to be implies that at one point they were feral, but not anymore.
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(D) Vs. (E)

GMAT allow us to think not only critically but also pragmatically, be sensible to the answer choices.
How many of us will agree that the domestication of Dogs,horses and sheep is still done for food,goods and transportation? (on a broader scale?maybe commercially horse-carts/sheep-wool & Dog-meat in south-east Asian countries)

(D) says..."animals which were originally feral and had been domesticated" what?? so, were they domesticated before just because they were feral? and what happened later? -Time sequence requires "had been" , here it's not needed because it may lead to an improper intention of the author.

(E) steals the show: domestication was an old story , and its nowhere ( mostly ) done today.

+1 for (E)
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OA again please. it is a difficult question, and it helps to understand the right choice pls.
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OA again please. it is a difficult question, and it helps to understand the right choice pls.

HELLO...THOUGH I SELECTED E HERE,I AM WONDERING-

IN THE ORIGINAL SENTENCE,IT USES PRESENT PERFECT TENSE..SO IT MEANS THAT ACTION IS STILL CONTINUING,HOWEVER IN REAL WORLD THAT ACTION HAS FINISHED WAY BACK...SO DO WE HAVE TO RELATE SENTENCE CORRECTION QUESTIONS WITH REAL WORLD OR DO V HAVE TO CONSIDER THE MEANING INTENDED BY THE ORIGINAL SENTENCE..!

I HAV COME ACCROSS THIS QUESTION MANY TIMES NOW SO FELT THE NEED TO ASK..
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"as early as the Stone Age" at the end of the sentence. It doesn't make sense to say "have since been domesticated as early as the Stone Age," because "have...been domesticated" is a present perfect verb form, and you'd only use the present perfect to relate something to the present (as in "I am not (now) hungry, because I have eaten"). You couldn't use present perfect to situate the beginning of a process in the Stone Age. So we need to stick with the regular past ("were domesticated"). It works well to say "were domesticated as early as the Stone Age.

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Just for reference and benefit of people visiting this thread henceforth, I think there is nothing wrong with usage of present perfect tense here.

Have since been domesticated as early as stone age

she has been married since 1980

The problem could be of inconsistent tense usage. But I will leave that to the experts!

Edit:

I figured out what is wrong with C.

It is the placement of Since.

C nonsensically means that the animals were domesticated ever since they were feral (got nothing to do with stone ages I guess)
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