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Aringo.com client with 580 at HBS – bull?

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Re: Aringo.com client with 580 at HBS – bull? [#permalink] New post   14 Apr 2011, 12:08
yes, you should definitely consider some safety schools, and i'm not saying that to discourage you, this is just smart strategy.
i think that most applicants apply to 3-4 programs, and even if they are rejected from their top choice they still have a chance of being admitted to another school.
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Re: Aringo.com client with 580 at HBS – bull? [#permalink] New post   16 Apr 2011, 11:38
In the last two years, Tuck has admitted students with scores less than 600.

The only way that works is if you've got a stellar story. You've started a very successful company, a non-profit, competed in the Olympics, etc, etc.

If that's not your story, you'll need a much higher GMAT score.

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Re: Aringo.com client with 580 at HBS – bull? [#permalink] New post   18 Apr 2011, 04:03
and not only Tuck - many schools publish class profiles, where you can see the range of GMAT scores of admitted students.
580 falls in the range of some good programs, even if not top-10.
but of course you should have a great story and a very strong candidacy to be admitted with such score.
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Re: Aringo.com client with 580 at HBS – bull? [#permalink] New post   20 Apr 2011, 17:33
rhyme wrote:
BrusselsToBoston -

1) I was born in belgium (near brussels no less!)
2) HBS is a good school but there are many other great schools - you are status blind right now. It's your dream school because its HBS not because it offers anything of particular value to you
3) #2 leads me to worry that your essays will be weak on the 'why HBS' angle and that will put a 2nd nail in your coffin
4) And your 580 score is already one pretty big rusty nail.
5) Go buy the manhattan GMAT books and official guide
6) Study 200 hours
7) Retake with a goal of 650+
8) Apply elsewhere
9) Forget whomever had 'one admit' at HBS with a 580, its a hail mary pass.
10) Move to Leuven and mail me beer


:)

As for your original question - I am no authority on this clearly, but I think that anyone who gets into HBS with 580 is an outlier and not to be mistaken to represent the population with that score in terms of admissions chances. In the end each profile is different. So, yeah. What Rhyme said, I think.
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Re: Aringo.com client with 580 at HBS – bull? [#permalink] New post   21 Apr 2011, 06:14
xerox wrote:
580? Bull.

^^^ Not bull...from hbs website:
Class Composition
Women 36%
US Ethnic Minorities 23%
International 34%
Countries represented 73
Undergraduate institutions represented 243
GMAT Score Range 550-790
Median GMAT 730
Average GPA 3.67

Love it when people just make stuff up out of thin air....kills me.
People have gotten in without bachelors degrees.
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Re: Aringo.com client with 580 at HBS – bull? [#permalink] New post   23 Apr 2011, 11:00
jordanhendrix wrote:
xerox wrote:
580? Bull.

^^^ Not bull...from hbs website:
Class Composition
Women 36%
US Ethnic Minorities 23%
International 34%
Countries represented 73
Undergraduate institutions represented 243
GMAT Score Range 550-790
Median GMAT 730
Average GPA 3.67

Love it when people just make stuff up out of thin air....kills me.
People have gotten in without bachelors degrees.


550 is nothing.. Class of 2012 touched 510!
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Preliminary Profile of the Class of 2012
Date: July 07, 2010
Here's a peek at the Class of 2012.

This is still officially "preliminary" until registration in September.

Admissions
Total MBA Enrollment 910
Applications 9,524
% Admitted 11%
Class Composition
Women 36%
US Ethnic Minorities 23%
International 34%
Countries represented 73
Undergraduate institutions represented 243
GMAT Score Range 510-790
Middle 50% GMAT Score Range 710-750
Average GMAT 724
Citizenship
North America 70%
—United States 66%
Asia/South Pacific 13%
Europe 12%
Central/South America 3%
Africa 1%
Oceania 1%
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Re: Aringo.com client with 580 at HBS – bull? [#permalink] New post   25 Apr 2011, 08:24
rhyme wrote:
BrusselsToBoston -

10) Move to Leuven and mail me beer


lol..
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Re: Aringo.com client with 580 at HBS – bull? [#permalink] New post   28 Apr 2011, 12:44
thanks for all the tips and encouragement!
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Re: Aringo.com client with 580 at HBS – bull? [#permalink] New post   03 May 2011, 11:46
are there other things working for you?
according to their chances indication model, the fact that you are european applying to an american school is an advantage, and if you managed many people and had many promotions it gives you a better chance at HBS.
by the way, if you're young (26-27) it might help as well, so don't wait too long :)
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Re: Aringo.com client with 580 at HBS – bull? [#permalink] New post   04 May 2011, 22:26
yes, i'm in that age range, but didn't manage many people, and i'm not sure how many promotions i can show for.
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Re: Aringo.com client with 580 at HBS – bull? [#permalink] New post   07 May 2011, 10:46
Well, you should highlight your strengths as much as possible, and an admission consultant can help you do that. in addition, you should really try to improve your GMAT, but you don't need me to tell you that :)
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Re: Aringo.com client with 580 at HBS – bull? [#permalink] New post   07 May 2011, 15:17
ardk wrote:
rhyme wrote:
BrusselsToBoston -

10) Move to Leuven and mail me beer


lol..


I'm glad someone got it. :)
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Re: Aringo.com client with 580 at HBS – bull? [#permalink] New post   12 May 2011, 00:22
I thought about taking the GRE instead of the GMAT, but i heard that some schools prefer applicants who took the GMAT.
anyone heard about it, know if it's true? what about HBS?
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Re: Aringo.com client with 580 at HBS – bull? [#permalink] New post   12 May 2011, 11:09
staind wrote:
550 is nothing.. Class of 2012 touched 510!
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Preliminary Profile of the Class of 2012
Date: July 07, 2010
Here's a peek at the Class of 2012.

This is still officially "preliminary" until registration in September.

Admissions
Total MBA Enrollment 910
Applications 9,524
% Admitted 11%
Class Composition
Women 36%
US Ethnic Minorities 23%
International 34%
Countries represented 73
Undergraduate institutions represented 243
GMAT Score Range 510-790
Middle 50% GMAT Score Range 710-750
Average GMAT 724
Citizenship
North America 70%
—United States 66%
Asia/South Pacific 13%
Europe 12%
Central/South America 3%
Africa 1%
Oceania 1%


I would also bet that HBS turned down some applicants with perfect 800s!
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Re: Aringo.com client with 580 at HBS – bull? [#permalink] New post   14 May 2011, 12:07
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One-time lucky case?


yes!
it seems that it was a brilliant candidate.....

for example: they advised a girl who is 25 now, who became olympic champion in gymnastics at the age of 19, she graduated from most prestigious local university, but due to her son who is 2 years old (other more significant responsabilities, other than GMAT) she did not care much about GMAT, and took it only once, after having a lunch with the prime -minister of her country who congratulated her and her team of teenagers on winning European youth gymnastics championship (probably she was more occupied by kids rather than by preparing for the GMAT). :-D

just feel the difference.

p.s.this is my 1000's post!
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Re: Aringo.com client with 580 at HBS – bull? [#permalink] New post   16 May 2011, 07:28
LOL!
funny but true... too bad i don't such a great excuse for my poor GMAT score.
congratulations on your 1000 post!
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Re: Aringo.com client with 580 at HBS – bull? [#permalink] New post   18 May 2011, 06:20
you forgot to mention that she has been volunteering for several years reading for the blind...
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Re: Aringo.com client with 580 at HBS – bull? [#permalink] New post   25 May 2011, 01:04
maybe it's not a one time lucky case, they mention other clients with low scores who got into top programs. i hope i have something in common with those guys...
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Re: Aringo.com client with 580 at HBS – bull? [#permalink] New post   29 May 2011, 01:08
one thing for sure - if you don't try you won't succeed!
what do you have to lose?
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Re: Aringo.com client with 580 at HBS – bull? [#permalink] New post   31 May 2011, 07:57
Do you really think HBS need more applicants? to make more money from the application fees? they have about ten thousand applicants every year! and don't forget that someone has to sit and read all these applications...
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