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As a baby emerges from the darkness of the womb with a rudimentary sense of vision, it would be rated about 20/500, or legally blind if it were an adult with such vision.

(A) As a baby emerges from the darkness of the womb with a rudimentary sense of vision, it would be rated about 20/500, or legally blind if it were an adult with such vision.

(B) A baby emerges from the darkness of the womb with a rudimentary sense of vision that would be rated about 20/500, or legally blind as an adult.

(C) As a baby emerges from the darkness of the womb, its rudimentary sense of vision would be rated about 20/500; qualifying it to be legally blind if an adult.

(D) A baby emerges from the darkness of the womb with a rudimentary sense of vision that would be rated about 20/500; an adult with such vision would be deemed legally blind.

(E) As a baby emerges from the darkness of the womb, its rudimentary sense of vision, which would deemed legally blind for an adult, would be rated about 20/500.
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[quote]As a baby emerges from the darkness of the womb with a rudimentary sense of vision, it would be rated about 20/500, or legally blind if it were an adult with such vision.

A. As a baby emerges from the darkness of the womb with a rudimentary sense of vision, it would be rated about 20/500, or legally blind if it were an adult with such vision.
B. A baby emerges from the darkness of the womb with a rudimentary sense of vision that would be rated about 20/500, or legally lind as an adult.
C. As a baby emerges from the darkness of the womb, its rudimentary sense of vision would be rated about 20/500; qualifying it to be legally blind if an adult.
D. A baby emerges from the darkness of the womb with a rudimentary sense of vision that would be rated about 20/500; an adult with such vision would be deemed legally blind.
E. As a baby emerges from the darkness of the womb, its rudimentary sense of vision, which would deemed legally blind for an adult, would be rated about 20/500./quote]

A. is out. the 'it' is not clear as to its antecedent. This same unclear pronoun is later repeated. beginning with as and then the subject is 'it.'
B. This is better than A. Still the second part (or legally blind as an adult is referring to vision not the baby).
C. Also begins with as forcing the subject to be sense. Then it has a semicolon followed by a less than complete second part.
D. Good. We have the baby as the subject. then the second part is very clear with a clear subject.
E. The subject again is sense. The core of the sentence is "sense would be rated" The modifiers should not overwhelm the core of the sentence.

D. is best of the five. B is the least worst of the remainders.

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I have chosen D for this question:

A. This answer choice is confusing because of the pronoun "it." The sentence starts off using a subordinate clause, and the main clause starts with the first use of "it." However, this first "it" refers to the baby instead of the rudimentary sense of vision - this is incorrect. Also, the use of the coordinating conjunction "or" is supposed to separate 2 independent clauses. The second clause cannot stand alone, so the use of "or" is also incorrect in this case.

B. The only real mistake is the use of the coordinating conjunction "or." Again, it is supposed to separate 2 independent clauses. In this case, it tries to modify 20/500 - this is incorrect.

C. The verb-ing modifier "qualifying" comes after a semicolon - this makes no sense. Modifiers are usually separated from the clauses by commas. Since this modifier comes after a semicolon, it is supposed to act as an independent clause and because it doesn't, it is a sentence fragment.

D. This answer choice is correct - it clearly identifies the meaning of the sentence. The two sentences are separated by a semicolon and they are related.

E. The use of "which" seems to be misplaced - it should probably be modifying 20/500.

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16 Nov 2012, 00:15
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As a baby emerges from the darkness of the womb with a rudimentary sense of vision, it would be rated about 20/500, or legally blind if it were an adult with such vision.

A. As a baby emerges from the darkness of the womb with a rudimentary sense of vision, it would be rated about 20/500, or legally blind if it were an adult with such vision.
B. A baby emerges from the darkness of the womb with a rudimentary sense of vision that would be rated about 20/500, or legally lind as an adult.
C. As a baby emerges from the darkness of the womb, its rudimentary sense of vision would be rated about 20/500; qualifying it to be legally blind if an adult.
D. A baby emerges from the darkness of the womb with a rudimentary sense of vision that would be rated about 20/500; an adult with such vision would be deemed legally blind.
E. As a baby emerges from the darkness of the womb, its rudimentary sense of vision, which would deemed legally blind for an adult, would be rated about 20/500.

I think this question tests your idiom knowledge. As x so y..... A,C & E all being with as without so, hence eliminate all of these.
left with B&D. look at B after "20/500", legally blind as an adult..who the baby no, it means vision, hence eliminate B. Further more look at the usage of As. It is being used for comparison. Whenever as is used for comparison, make sure it is followed by a clause. Hope this helps.
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16 Nov 2012, 00:20
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As a baby emerges from the darkness of the womb with a rudimentary sense of vision, it would be rated about 20/500, or legally blind if it were an adult with such vision.

A. As a baby emerges from the darkness of the womb with a rudimentary sense of vision, it would be rated about 20/500, or legally blind if it were an adult with such vision.
B. A baby emerges from the darkness of the womb with a rudimentary sense of vision that would be rated about 20/500, or legally lind as an adult.
C. As a baby emerges from the darkness of the womb, its rudimentary sense of vision would be rated about 20/500; qualifying it to be legally blind if an adult.
D. A baby emerges from the darkness of the womb with a rudimentary sense of vision that would be rated about 20/500; an adult with such vision would be deemed legally blind.
E. As a baby emerges from the darkness of the womb, its rudimentary sense of vision, which would deemed legally blind for an adult, would be rated about 20/500.

First and foremost, there is a split with "it/its" and without it. In any of these options with "its" , there is pronoun ambiguity. Therefore we can simply eliminate - or they way u say- kill A, C and E.
between B and D a major difference is meaning and minor difference is punctuation. B has an incorrect meaning , suggesting that vision would be rated legally blind. D has semicolon and uses IC post semicolon correctly.

Ans D it is.
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16 Nov 2012, 00:44
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Archit143 wrote:
As a baby emerges from the darkness of the womb with a rudimentary sense of vision, it would be rated about 20/500, or legally blind if it were an adult with such vision.

A. As a baby emerges from the darkness of the womb with a rudimentary sense of vision, it would be rated about 20/500, or legally blind if it were an adult with such vision.
B. A baby emerges from the darkness of the womb with a rudimentary sense of vision that would be rated about 20/500, or legally lind as an adult.
C. As a baby emerges from the darkness of the womb, its rudimentary sense of vision would be rated about 20/500; qualifying it to be legally blind if an adult.
D. A baby emerges from the darkness of the womb with a rudimentary sense of vision that would be rated about 20/500; an adult with such vision would be deemed legally blind.
E. As a baby emerges from the darkness of the womb, its rudimentary sense of vision, which would deemed legally blind for an adult, would be rated about 20/500.

First and foremost, there is a split with "it/its" and without it. In any of these options with "its" , there is pronoun ambiguity. Therefore we can simply eliminate - or they way u say- kill A, C and E.
between B and D a major difference is meaning and minor difference is punctuation. B has an incorrect meaning , suggesting that vision would be rated legally blind. D has semicolon and uses IC post semicolon correctly.

Ans D it is.

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few doubts........

A has " it" which i think correctly refer to " sense of vision", So i don't A has an error of "it"
whereas in C and E it refers to " womb' which is wrong.
In B meaning is wrong because use of " or" calls for parallelism, so i think it wrongly refers to rudimentary sense of vision instead of baby as legally blind......Am i correct.

Aslo , does it has idiom error "As X so Y", mentioned in some of the posts

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Vips0000 wrote:
Archit143 wrote:
As a baby emerges from the darkness of the womb with a rudimentary sense of vision, it would be rated about 20/500, or legally blind if it were an adult with such vision.

A. As a baby emerges from the darkness of the womb with a rudimentary sense of vision, it would be rated about 20/500, or legally blind if it were an adult with such vision.
B. A baby emerges from the darkness of the womb with a rudimentary sense of vision that would be rated about 20/500, or legally lind as an adult.
C. As a baby emerges from the darkness of the womb, its rudimentary sense of vision would be rated about 20/500; qualifying it to be legally blind if an adult.
D. A baby emerges from the darkness of the womb with a rudimentary sense of vision that would be rated about 20/500; an adult with such vision would be deemed legally blind.
E. As a baby emerges from the darkness of the womb, its rudimentary sense of vision, which would deemed legally blind for an adult, would be rated about 20/500.

First and foremost, there is a split with "it/its" and without it. In any of these options with "its" , there is pronoun ambiguity. Therefore we can simply eliminate - or they way u say- kill A, C and E.
between B and D a major difference is meaning and minor difference is punctuation. B has an incorrect meaning , suggesting that vision would be rated legally blind. D has semicolon and uses IC post semicolon correctly.

Ans D it is.

Hi Vipps

few doubts........

A has " it" which i think correctly refer to " sense of vision", So i don't A has an error of "it"
whereas in C and E it refers to " womb' which is wrong.
In B meaning is wrong because use of " or" calls for parallelism, so i think it wrongly refers to rudimentary sense of vision instead of baby as legally blind......Am i correct.

Aslo , does it has idiom error "As X so Y", mentioned in some of the posts

"it" in A doesnt necessarily refere to 'sense of vision'. Infact if you put this in context of entire sentence you'd find, 'it' is used again . Do both 'it' essentially refer to same 'sense of vision'? can 'sense of vision' be adult?
Additionally C and E also have same issue with 'it/its'.
B as you correctly pointed out distorts the meaning due to incorrect construction based on 'or'.

idiom error of As X so Y is definitely not tested here, "As" is not used for comparison here.

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I am also confused about: As a baby emerges from the darkness of the "womb with a rudimentary" ....
"a rudimentary" seems to modify womb rather than baby?

"As a baby emerges from the darkness of the (womb with a rudimentary sense of vision"

When you should be grouping it differently as such:

"As a baby {emerges from the (darkness of the womb) } with a rudimentary sense of vision"

How do we know to do this?

We apply the "Cut the Fluff" technique and identify key prepositional words:

1. OF THE WOMB = fluff
2. FROM THE DARKNESS = fluff

The keywords OF and FROM - indicate additional details that you can ignore.

Once you ignore these details, the skeleton becomes:

"As a baby {emerges from the (darkness of the womb) } with a rudimentary sense of vision"

which is:

"As a baby emerges with a rudimentary sense of vision"

So use our "Cut the Fluff" technique to help you find the barebone skeleton of the sentence. Then from there, you can more easily do your analysis.

A video explanation has been provided here:

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conty911 wrote:
I am also confused about: As a baby emerges from the darkness of the "womb with a rudimentary" ....
"a rudimentary" seems to modify womb rather than baby?

"As a baby emerges from the darkness of the (womb with a rudimentary sense of vision"

When you should be grouping it differently as such:

"As a baby {emerges from the (darkness of the womb) } with a rudimentary sense of vision"

How do we know to do this?

We apply the "Cut the Fluff" technique and identify key prepositional words:

1. OF THE WOMB = fluff
2. FROM THE DARKNESS = fluff

The keywords OF and FROM - indicate additional details that you can ignore.

Once you ignore these details, the skeleton becomes:

"As a baby {emerges from the (darkness of the womb) } with a rudimentary sense of vision"

which is:

"As a baby emerges with a rudimentary sense of vision"

So use our "Cut the Fluff" technique to help you find the barebone skeleton of the sentence. Then from there, you can more easily do your analysis.

A video explanation has been provided here:

Hi,

Can you please explain why "its" is wrong in C and E. I realize that "its" is a possessive but why can't it refer to the baby in this case?

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The use of "its" in C and E is fine. C and E have other problems.

In C, the use of the semicolon makes the portion of the sentence after the semicolon a fragment.

In E, the placement of "which" makes it unclear whether the baby's sense of vision or the 20/500 rating would be deemed legally blind for an adult. Also, it's awkward to say "X vision would be deemed/considered legally blind for an adult" when you can more clearly say "an adult with X vision would be deemed/considered legally blind". Finally, a "be" seems to be missing before "deemed".
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09 Aug 2014, 22:14
Dear russ9,

"Qualifying" is not used as a verb. You need to be careful with words ending in "ing".

Consider the following sentences.
He is singing. (Singing is used as a verb here -- note the presence of the helper verb "is" before it.)
He is a singing sensation. (Singing is used as an adjective to the noun "sensation".)
Singing is my passion. (Singing is used as a noun.)

Note also that in the above sentences the subject comes before the verb, not after.

If you are still not convinced, try constructing a sentence similar to the portion after the semicolon.
Singing songs to be happy if bored.

The above sentence has no verb. It is a fragment.

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As a baby emerges from the darkness of the womb with a rudimentary sense of vision, it would be rated about 20/500, or legally blind if it were an adult with such vision.

A. As a baby emerges from the darkness of the womb with a rudimentary sense of vision, it would be rated about 20/500, or legally blind if it were an adult with such vision.
B. A baby emerges from the darkness of the womb with a rudimentary sense of vision that would be rated about 20/500, or legally lind as an adult.
C. As a baby emerges from the darkness of the womb, its rudimentary sense of vision would be rated about 20/500; qualifying it to be legally blind if an adult.
D. A baby emerges from the darkness of the womb with a rudimentary sense of vision that would be rated about 20/500; an adult with such vision would be deemed legally blind.
E. As a baby emerges from the darkness of the womb, its rudimentary sense of vision, which would deemed legally blind for an adult, would be rated about 20/500.

Here's my take on the question:

1. As a baby emerges from the darkness of the womb with a rudimentary sense of vision, it would be rated about 20/500, or legally blind if it were an adult with such vision. - No clue what does this IT refers to. It could refer to emergence of baby or to the rudimentary sense of vision.

2. A baby emerges from the darkness of the womb with a rudimentary sense of vision that would be rated about 20/500, or legally blind as an adult. - Improper construction

3. As a baby emerges from the darkness of the womb, its rudimentary sense of vision would be rated about 20/500; qualifying it to be legally blind if an adult. - Its may refer to baby or to womb. The second issue is that after semicolon, there's a fragment.

4. A baby emerges from the darkness of the womb with a rudimentary sense of vision that would be rated about 20/500; an adult with such vision would be deemed legally blind. THAT clearly refers to rudimentary sense of vision. A semicolon is used before an independent clause. Sentence is correct.

5. As a baby emerges from the darkness of the womb, its rudimentary sense of vision, which would deemed legally blind for an adult, would be rated about 20/500. Its is a possessive pronoun, so it must have a noun before it to which it can refer to. As a baby emerges is not a noun.

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As a baby emerges from the darkness of the womb with a rudimentary sense of vision, it would be rated about 20/500, or legally blind if it were an adult with such vision.

A. As a baby emerges from the darkness of the womb with a rudimentary sense of vision, it would be rated about 20/500, or legally blind if it were an adult with such vision.
B. A baby emerges from the darkness of the womb with a rudimentary sense of vision that would be rated about 20/500, or legally lind as an adult.
C. As a baby emerges from the darkness of the womb, its rudimentary sense of vision would be rated about 20/500; qualifying it to be legally blind if an adult.
D. A baby emerges from the darkness of the womb with a rudimentary sense of vision that would be rated about 20/500; an adult with such vision would be deemed legally blind.
E. As a baby emerges from the darkness of the womb, its rudimentary sense of vision, which would deemed legally blind for an adult, would be rated about 20/500.

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OA: D

Why E is wrong?

E is blatantly wrong because of the rules of comma (bet you don't know that )
I am sure Gmat would never hinge a correct answer only based on commas, there would be more mistakes in a wrong option apart from an incorrect comma
SO the rule of comma, states that a phrase bound by commas is akin to a parenthetical element
Meaning, if there is a phrase in between two commas, then treat that particular phrase as if it is inside a bracket. For all practical purposes, such a phrase conveys non essential or additional information - information that is not of great importance to the reader.

SO Option E is essential saying :-
As a baby emerges from the darkness of the womb, its rudimentary sense of vision,which would deemed legally blind for an adult, would be rated about 20/500.

Now in essence the sentence can be read as:-
As a baby emerges from the darkness of the womb, would be rated about 20/500.
This is an absurd sentence with no regard for grammar rules.

We need the phrase "IT"S RUDIMENTARY SENSE OF VISION" as well as "which would deemed legally blind for an adult" because these two phrases tells us that the baby is blind in legal terms. These two phrases are important to grasp the full meaning of the sentence and hence cannot be bound by commas.

Hence E IS WRONG
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No one seems to read my post as to why E is incorrect and then are unnecessarily wasting their precious preparation time in getting confused
There is a concise and well written grammar rule that tells us exactly why E is wrong and i have explained the same rule in great detail in my earlier post.
I will explain it again here by pasting my earlier post as well as throwing more light on the rule.

E is blatantly wrong because of the rules of comma (bet you don't know that )
I am sure Gmat would never hinge a correct answer only based on commas, there would be more mistakes in a wrong option apart from an incorrect comma
SO the rule of comma, states that a phrase bound by commas is akin to a parenthetical element
Meaning, if there is a phrase in between two commas, then treat that particular phrase as if it is inside a bracket. For all practical purposes, such a phrase conveys non essential or additional information - information that is not of great importance to the reader.

SO Option E is essential saying :-
As a baby emerges from the darkness of the womb, its rudimentary sense of vision,which would deemed legally blind for an adult, would be rated about 20/500.

Now in essence the sentence can be read as:-
As a baby emerges from the darkness of the womb would be rated about 20/500.
This is an absurd sentence with no regard for grammar rules.

We need the phrase "IT"S RUDIMENTARY SENSE OF VISION" as well as "which would deemed legally blind for an adult" because these two phrases tells us that the baby is blind in legal terms. These two phrases are important to grasp the full meaning of the sentence and hence cannot be bound by commas.

Hence E IS WRONG

Use a pair of commas in the middle of a sentence to set off clauses, phrases, and words that are not essential to the meaning of the sentence. Use one comma before to indicate the beginning of the pause and one at the end to indicate the end of the pause.

Here are some clues to help you decide whether the sentence element is essential:

If you leave out the clause, phrase, or word, does the sentence still make sense?
Does the clause, phrase, or word interrupt the flow of words in the original sentence?
If you move the element to a different position in the sentence, does the sentence still make sense?

If you answer "NO" to one or more of these questions, then the element in question is Essential and should NOT EVER be set off with commas like it is done in option E here.

Here are some example sentences with nonessential elements in which we can easily remove the phrase and it will still make complete sense as far as the meaning of the sentence is concerned.

Clause: That Tuesday, which happens to be my birthday, is the only day when I am available to meet.

Phrase: This restaurant has an exciting atmosphere. The food, on the other hand, is rather bland.

Word: I appreciate your hard work. In this case, however, you seem to have over-exerted yourself.

THIS IS THE ONE AND ONLY REASON WHY E IS WRONG
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Now in essence the sentence can be read as:-
As a baby emerges from the darkness of the womb, would be rated about 20/500.
This is an absurd sentence with no regard for grammar rules.

When you leave the modifier, shouldn't you leave the RED comma as well from the sentence?
I mean the sentence will be as follows:
As a baby emerges from the darkness of the womb would be rated about 20/500.
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Difficult question. Thanks Gary and the Magoosh Chocolate Factory!

Split1) Grammatical. First "it" is unclear = refers to baby (noun) or visions. A is out.

Split2) the word "or" is confusing. Meaning we want an explanatory word that says the vision of 20/500 is equivalent to blind as an adult. The word "or" is not explanatory. A and B are out.

Split3) After a semicolon (;) and before it, you need to have an independent though => independent; independent => noun + verb; noun + verb. "qualifying it to be legally..." is a participial phrase. C is out.

Split4) "would be deemed" is correct vs "would deeemed" incorrect. E is out.

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16 May 2017, 07:16
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As a baby emerges from the darkness of the womb with a rudimentary sense of vision, it would be rated about 20/500, or legally blind if it were an adult with such vision.

A. As a baby emerges from the darkness of the womb with a rudimentary sense of vision, it would be rated about 20/500, or legally blind if it were an adult with such vision.
B. A baby emerges from the darkness of the womb with a rudimentary sense of vision that would be rated about 20/500, or legally lind as an adult.
C. As a baby emerges from the darkness of the womb, its rudimentary sense of vision would be rated about 20/500; qualifying it to be legally blind if an adult.
D. A baby emerges from the darkness of the womb with a rudimentary sense of vision that would be rated about 20/500; an adult with such vision would be deemed legally blind.
E. As a baby emerges from the darkness of the womb, its rudimentary sense of vision, which would deemed legally blind for an adult, would be rated about 20/500.

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OA: D

Why E is wrong?

A "It" is ambiguous.
B "Or" here functions to insert "legally blind" as the object of the verb "rated." But adults aren't "rated... legally blind"--they are deemed or found to be "legally blind."
C The phrase after the semicolon is a fragment since it lacks a verb.
D Correct.
E The "vision" is mistakenly modified by "would deemed legally blind."

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Is choice E correctly transcribed? we don't expect GMAT to commit such a basic blunder as 'would deemed'. One may not reject E on the basis of the typo
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