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Might have died one time is not the same as might have died once. Here the one time belong to the category of arithmetical count one-time, two times etc. After all, of us die only one time. Therefore, that is not the intention of the sentence.

Might have died once - means -might have died once upon a time - ;
Hence let us drop all the one –time might have died options, retaining only B and C. between B and C, that cannot be used for human beings; Hence, C is gone. This leaves B as the option.
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(B) who might once have died in childhood

This option sounds as if,
How many time one can die?
once in childhood?and later in old age?

Please clarify.
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New post 16 Jul 2012, 18:09
A and C are out as "that" cannot modify people.
Out of B,D and E
D means as if people die multiple times.
E is awkward.
B is the answer.
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18 seconds,,, :lol: :wink: :wink: :wink: :lol:

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The key difference is between (B) and (D), and is one of meaning.

(D) suggests that people may have actually died at one time. This is nonsensical. One can only die once.

(B) avoids this error with 'might once have died...'.
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As a result of medical advances, many people that might at one time have died as children of such infections as diphtheria, pneumonia, or rheumatic fever now live well into old age.

(A) that might at one time have died as children
(B) who might once have died in childhood
(C) that as children might once have died
(D) who in childhood might have at one time died
(E) who, when they were children, might at one time have died


I am not convienced with the OA provided for this question, please assist. How can it be childhood of such infections as diphtheria, pneumonia, or rheumatic fever ?
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New post 28 Aug 2012, 02:42
The intent : many people might have died in childhood BUT Many people now live well ( WHY? ) = As a result of medical advances

So to form this into a logical construction :

vertical scan : THAT doesn't make any sense = Eliminate choices having THAT ie A n C = gone

WHO is more appropriate here : So we can zone in on B / D / E

E : is wrong as usual = when they were children ( not to fret too much over this ) = Eliminated

B n D : Remove all the fluff and reread :

B : People who might have died in childhood......... now......... live into old age (Parallel )

D : People who in childhood might have died........ now......... live into old age ( does it sound better than B ?) = Eliminated

leading to B = my take
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D makes it sound as if the children were all about to die at the same time, so it is B.
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(A) wrong: Use of that is wrong
(B) correct: concise and conveys the intended meaning
(C) wrong: same as A
(D) wrong: modifier problem - incorrect placement of "childhood" which is supposed to modify "died"
(E) wrong: Too wordy
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However I feel, to use "Once" with death is like .. you die many times ... once,twice...
Hence don't agree with B and C
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The key difference is between (B) and (D), and is one of meaning.

(D) suggests that people may have actually died at one time. This is nonsensical. One can only die once.

(B) avoids this error with 'might once have died...'.


If it were died one time , then your explanation of option (D) would have been correct.
BUT, died AT one time , technically means same as died once upon a time.
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gmat dose not accept "that" refering to person in relative clause. but this point is not tested on question in recent og books. this question is from very old og book, which , it seems, is og 10
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121. As a result of medical advances, many people that might at one time have died as children of such infections as diphtheria, pneumonia, or rheumatic fever now live well into old age.

(A) that might at one time have died as children
(B) who might once have died in childhood
(C) that as children might once have died
(D) who in childhood might have at one time died
(E) who, when they were children, might at one time have died



Between B and D, there is structural difference. Usually, a sentence goes like this -> subject verb prepositional phrase.. In D , prepositional phrase is placed randomly between subject and verb ,and between have and died. This makes the sentence awkward. Also, at one time can be written as once.
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GMATNinja, Could you help to explain why (D) is incorrect here?
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GMATNinja, Could you help to explain why (D) is incorrect here?




Hello hazelnut,


I will be glad to help you with this one. :-)


Choice D is incorrect for the usage of the phrase one time in childhood. This expression seems to suggest that the many people night have died one time in the childhood as if they could actually die many times.


Hope this helps. :-)
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GMATNinja, Could you help to explain why (D) is incorrect here?


Hello hazelnut,

I will be glad to help you with this one. :-)

Choice D is incorrect for the usage of the phrase one time in childhood. This expression seems to suggest that the many people night have died one time in the childhood as if they could actually die many times.

Hope this helps. :-)
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Hi egmat, Thank you for replying. However, upon looking up at Cambridge Dictionary, "at one time" = in the past.
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I think egmat was correct in this case, hazelnut, but the issue is more with the placement of the phrase "at one time", and not really with the difference between "once" and "at one time."

I'm not sure if this little exercise will help, but let's see what happens if we swap "once" and "at one time", but keep the placement the same as before. So which of these two would you prefer?

    (B)...many people who might at one time have died as children... now live well into old age.
    (D) ... many people who in childhood might have at one time died... now live well into old age.

And what about now?

    (B)...many people who might once have died as children... now live well into old age.
    (D) ... many people who in childhood might have once died... now live well into old age.

And here's the actual answer choices again:

    (B)...many people who might once have died as children... now live well into old age.
    (D) ... many people who in childhood might have at one time died... now live well into old age.

The problem is that in (D), "at one time" seems to be modifying "died" -- and as Shraddha pointed out, that doesn't make a lot of sense. If we think about what that's saying strictly and literally, it seems to imply that the people died once in childhood, but then kept living -- or least that's what it seems to be saying. In (B), "once" modifies "might have" -- suggesting that it's possible in the past that they could have died before modern medicine became more awesome.

It's a tricky question to explain! I'm surprised that it's tagged as sub-600 level -- this one is slippery, but I hope that this made some sense.
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I think egmat was correct in this case, hazelnut, but the issue is more with the placement of the phrase "at one time", and not really with the difference between "once" and "at one time."

I'm not sure if this little exercise will help, but let's see what happens if we swap "once" and "at one time", but keep the placement the same as before. So which of these two would you prefer?

    (B)...many people who might at one time have died as children... now live well into old age.
    (D) ... many people who in childhood might have at one time died... now live well into old age.

And what about now?

    (B)...many people who might once have died as children... now live well into old age.
    (D) ... many people who in childhood might have once died... now live well into old age.


And here's the actual answer choices again:

    (B)...many people who might once have died as children... now live well into old age.
    (D) ... many people who in childhood might have at one time died... now live well into old age.

The problem is that in (D), "at one time" seems to be modifying "died" -- and as Shraddha pointed out, that doesn't make a lot of sense. If we think about what that's saying strictly and literally, it seems to imply that the people died once in childhood, but then kept living -- or least that's what it seems to be saying. In (B), "once" modifies "might have" -- suggesting that it's possible in the past that they could have died before modern medicine became more awesome.

It's a tricky question to explain! I'm surprised that it's tagged as sub-600 level -- this one is slippery, but I hope that this made some sense.


I have a question ,fellow gmat club members.
Does the presence of 'that' make option A incorrect? can people only be modified by using 'who'?
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I have a question ,fellow gmat club members.
Does the presence of 'that' make option A incorrect? can people only be modified by using 'who'?

Really good question. In general, "who" can only modify people, and "that" can modify either people or things. So I definitely wouldn't argue that "that", by itself, makes (A) incorrect.

But I remember answering another question about this somewhere on GMAT Club (massive kudos for anybody who can find that post!), and I think I went through every OG and verbal guide edition I have, and I couldn't find a case in which "that" was actually used to modify a person in a correct answer. I also couldn't find any official GMAT questions in which the choice between "who" and "that" was a meaningful issue.

So I think "that" is probably acceptable to modify people on the GMAT, just like it is in "real world" English. And I don't think that the GMAT cares about the distinction, one way or another.

I hope this helps!
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